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Soooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”"
] |
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This surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election.
The sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over."
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Never said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies."
] |
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People are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised."
] |
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The Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today."
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Downright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity."
] |
>
You are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID"
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Meanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...
He's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.
Yes, we are both vaxxed. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are."
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what kind of mask does he wear at work?
hopefully its some sort of respirator | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed."
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A hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator"
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The big guy collected his 10% already? | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?"
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Continuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”"
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Vaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable."
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All if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change? | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea."
] |
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Funding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?"
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The next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1... | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job."
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This probably wont cause any major issues! Right?? | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1..."
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Why that randomly selected date? Seems odd | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??"
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They really said “Fuck the Poors” huh | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd"
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It sucks that the "new normal" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh"
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Still roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option."
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Title: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11
Most people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is."
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Oh good, that'll fix it. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat"
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Good luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it."
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How did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses? | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now."
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Those weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID."
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So what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?
How about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?
Because that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.
But don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.
This has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).
Literally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.
This is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?"
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The amount of people in this thread saying "you can still wear a mask lol" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens."
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I was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.
Stupid is as stupid dies. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk."
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I got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers."
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There you go. Its magically disappeared. /s
My constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does."
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Maybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid! | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!"
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Here am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this… | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!"
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A 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.
Wish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact."
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I hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?"
I said " well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness." I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid"
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But wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist! | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked"
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At my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.
I immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.
I wish the barriers were permanent. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)"
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People I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point."
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Oh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us."
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The battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily."
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That's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. . | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. ."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right"
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This only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window.
Businesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most.
This will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate.
Even if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much.
It must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response.
I'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies."
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Nothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that."
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I hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.
To me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world."
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" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. "
" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. "
Maybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)"
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What’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID.
His biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit
on science every day to keep their self-esteem intact.
So you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).
Biden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true.
As to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed.
BUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID.
Biden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections.
And DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal
COVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record.
DeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates.
My guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House.
TLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won."
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Botched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of "oopsy". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government."
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Yes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct.
IMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration.
Every single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life.
Trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support.
He killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires..."
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Welp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?",
">\n\nWhat do you? It was fuvking bullshit the handling don’t stop it"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?",
">\n\nWhat do you? It was fuvking bullshit the handling don’t stop it",
">\n\nWell it was nice having Medicaid for a few years."
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Good, but where is the dystopian dictatorship I was promised by Qanon and the GOP? /s | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?",
">\n\nWhat do you? It was fuvking bullshit the handling don’t stop it",
">\n\nWell it was nice having Medicaid for a few years.",
">\n\nI thought it ended in April 2020? No one really cared anyways."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?",
">\n\nWhat do you? It was fuvking bullshit the handling don’t stop it",
">\n\nWell it was nice having Medicaid for a few years.",
">\n\nI thought it ended in April 2020? No one really cared anyways.",
">\n\nGood, but where is the dystopian dictatorship I was promised by Qanon and the GOP? /s"
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?",
">\n\nWhat do you? It was fuvking bullshit the handling don’t stop it",
">\n\nWell it was nice having Medicaid for a few years.",
">\n\nI thought it ended in April 2020? No one really cared anyways.",
">\n\nGood, but where is the dystopian dictatorship I was promised by Qanon and the GOP? /s",
">\n\nEven though COVID is still here, why continue helping people that need it? Should reverse the ridiculously high inflation rate to pre-pandemic levels so people won't require support by their government."
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Need I remind you that it was Biden and the CDC under his watch, that ended many of the then very helpful COVID guidelines such as 2 week quarantines for the those that were exposed to COVID positive people - and reduced sick days to 3-5 days after testing COVID positive but with no symptoms.
All the COVID mandates we’re dropped during Biden’s & Faucci’s oversight, not while
Trump was in office. And many of these things were done in spite of protests by health professionals calling for a reversal in policy, but neither Biden nor the CDC listened because the economy was far more important than health. And now, yet again, under Biden, he plans to magically “end COVID” by declaring it no longer a state of emergency.
Trump was a POS, but yeah! Let’s keep blaming him for the shit that Biden has been failing to do. God forbid it was trump and his administration that was dropping all of these COVID mandates that Biden dropped and is continuing to drop despite rising cases. | [
"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?",
">\n\nWhat do you? It was fuvking bullshit the handling don’t stop it",
">\n\nWell it was nice having Medicaid for a few years.",
">\n\nI thought it ended in April 2020? No one really cared anyways.",
">\n\nGood, but where is the dystopian dictatorship I was promised by Qanon and the GOP? /s",
">\n\nEven though COVID is still here, why continue helping people that need it? Should reverse the ridiculously high inflation rate to pre-pandemic levels so people won't require support by their government.",
">\n\nTry reading some financial news. The inflation rate has been declining for months. Meanwhile unemployment rates remain low."
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"Of all the stock photos of people wearing masks they could choose from, they pick the one with a guy wearing a Porn Hub hat.",
">\n\nNow let’s ask why the fuck he’s wearing a pornhub hat lol. When I leave the house I might put on a Duluth Trading Company hat, that’s a brand I like. Or a University of Wisconsin hat, a school I support. But this guy loves jerking off so much that he wears clothing repping his favorite porn site. You’ve got no choice but to respect that honestly.",
">\n\nOr maybe it is just a spinoff parody hat. Like he is a farmer and it says \"CornBub\".",
">\n\nCorn does have the juice.",
">\n\nI can't imagine a more beautiful thing!",
">\n\nCool now do the ones put in place after 9/11",
">\n\nwill people get dropped from medicaid because of this?",
">\n\nYes, at least where I am they ceased ALL negative actions and renewals for medicaid, while it was still declared an ongoing public health crisis.",
">\n\nThey stopped those protections a while ago here. I just had a client retroactively denied coverage going back to November...",
">\n\nRETROACTIVELY denied?!?? That sounds so evil. :(",
">\n\nInsurance in general is evil :/",
">\n\nBy that, student debt cancellation won’t be a thing.",
">\n\nIsn't the loan repayment pause dependent on the covid emergency declaration as well?",
">\n\nYes. So are the guaranteed sick days, vaccines, medications, hospital stays etc. This will only affect people who are poor and sick. It's not about masks which everyone is pretending. It's about the financial help for the poor and disabled that is being taken away and that's what people are celebrating today.",
">\n\nAlso insurance is more inclined to stamp APPROVED on a lot of the things that are used in bad bouts of COVID. Mostly because the Government has been helping cover some of those costs.\nNow that this is going away, I can assure anyone who gets a bad bout of COVID, your insurance is going to be breaking out the DENIED stamp a lot more often.\nSome of the worse bouts of COVID are six or seven figures. Maybe knock one or two of those digits off with insurance helped by the Government. With this ending, a lot of people are going to be on the hook for that bill now.\nMaybe this is what it takes for people to start treating this pandemic seriously? Million dollar medical bills that will haunt them the rest of their lives. I mean, we're still shedding about 200+ some people a day to COVID. That's ~73k a year. That's twice as many people who die in car wrecks annually and about 20% the rate of people who die from heart disease. That puts it in a firm third place for cause of death in the US.",
">\n\n500+ people a day in the US right now",
">\n\nI mean thank god for those 2 checks we got to help us survive 3 years",
">\n\nAnd then the record inflation, I know they weren't directly related but it made the checks even more meaningless in the long run.",
">\n\nI wonder how this will impact things like loan forgiveness in the courts, which relied on the emergency declaration to get authorization. I have a feeling SCOTUS will give a legally dubious \"it was valid at the time of the order but now the declaration is rescinded, so it would be irrelevant by the time we'd let you do it anyway.\" Thus they don't have to actually decide on whether it was legal and just skip to the boot. They used similar reasoning in other laws they've tossed down in the last decade or so.\nUntil now I thought they were going to toss it down on the basis that \"COVID isn't a big deal anymore,\" and just ignore the emergency declaration - they also used that reasoning in another COVID-related case recently (Gorsuch stood with liberals in opposing that opinion if I recall correctly).",
">\n\nThey specifically put in dates in June for the deadline I believe",
">\n\nWell, they ALSO chose a stock photo of people actually WEARING MASKS!!!",
">\n\nAnd a PornHub baseball cap",
">\n\nThis has real early war on terror \"mission accomplished\" vibes to it.",
">\n\nSince literally before the disaster even began in earnest in America, that's been the message. No wonder we're at 1.1 million deaths and tens of millions with permanent disabilities.",
">\n\npsst: we're also the most obese nation by far, which is a super big risk factor for severe Covid.",
">\n\nI can't read the article but being a caregiver for 2 high risk people, my life won't change. I didn't know there were still protocols in place.",
">\n\nYeah I have family members who have had organ transplants. Zero immune system, produce zero antibodies when vaccinated multiple times. Evushield was pulled because it's not effective. And people don't get it, they act like we're freaks wearing masks still. I have been harassed in public, I was 9 mo pregnant and a man kept banging on my car screaming at me to take off my mask. So I am worried that the state of emergency being changed will just make things worse in terms of respecting people still needing to be careful. I just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.",
">\n\n\nI just wish the government cared a little more about the immune compromised, or even just pretended to care.\n\nThey don't, we have objective evidence they do not now. Anyone in this situation, or caring for someone in this situation is on their own. \nWestern Society has really revealed itself to be an uncaring and selfish construct of humanity through this.",
">\n\nYeah it's really sad, it bothers me how anyone vulnerable is just thrown to the side like they don't matter. It's always been this way here. Look how a lot of nursing homes function.",
">\n\n\nIt's always been this way here.\n\nThis is the personal revelation I have gone through with this. It's not something new, I just didn't understand where we were at, and now that I do, I can't unsee it. \nIt kind of reminds me of Logans run, how everyone was killed off young and didn't really get a chance to understand the reality of their situation. The young and healthy are rarely if ever going to interface with the systems we have in place that are like this, except in extraordinary situations like this one.",
">\n\nNo I'm in a similar boat. I never realized it until very recently, and it's hard to come to terms with. I hope for change but with the current mentality of parents are evil and everyone over 50 is a crazy Trumper, and then no one caring about babies getting sick or people with cancer or pregnant people or organ recipients, i worry it'll get worse before it gets better. Especially with social media breeding such a self centered perspective on life and a sense of self importance. I wonder if it's this way in other countries too or just the US.",
">\n\nIt absolutely is the same way in other countries. It may look a little different, but people have definitely reacted the same way, at least from a logical perspective. \nLook at the Canadian trucker situation, and the Swedish approach to COVID from the start, Q-anon inspired would-be coupers in Germany, etc... \nI don't know how we collectively dig ourselves out of this, but the focus of my life moving forward it to spend what energy and time I have left on this earth trying to figure out what I can do to help move us in that direction. \nWhat I do know is that this is not the way to do things. \nI'm glad you've engaged here, it's always nice to know that there are others out there who are paying attention to things and actually have empathy.",
">\n\nDefinitely, it's been nice chatting with you too. I'm trying to make a difference too, starting within my family while my kids are little and my parents need help, and hopefully finding a way to contribute to change in society too. Take care, stay healthy.",
">\n\nFuck. There goes my Medicaid",
">\n\nAs a student who just got on Medicaid end of last year, could you explain to me why you will lose it? Did you qualify for it during covid but no longer qualify for it now? And with the end of the emergency declarations, it won’t be extended to you?",
">\n\nIf you make over a certain amount of income (in California I think the cutoff is 19K/yr - not sure if it’s different elsewhere) then you don’t qualify for Medicaid, but they’ve been keeping people on their plan during the pandemic regardless. My understanding is that after May 11th, they will no longer provide coverage for folks who don’t technically qualify.",
">\n\n1.1 million people unavailable for comment due to unspecified illness",
">\n\nThat's for the world. The 1.1 million for the US is probably fairly close, as opposed to say India where the excess deaths are about 10x the reported COVID deaths.",
">\n\nI think the US count is still off by hundreds of thousands if you look at excess mortality.",
">\n\nmillions - it doesn't take into account just how many people are living off the counts",
">\n\nWeird because that's my birthday.\nAnyway, whoever reads this, I hope you have a good and prosperous 2023.",
">\n\nThank you so much!",
">\n\nWelp ok. I currently have Covid. It's not bad, but I have missed work now for 7 days. Cough, congestion, exhaustion, yet no fever. Will this be like the flu from now on? Who knows. I just don't know what to do.",
">\n\nMost of us are mainly concerned because the \"new norm\" is just the status quo with no increased safety nets for a disease that is still much more than the flu. Covid will cause people to lose jobs and more without the protection because we learned nothing and put nothing into place. Collectively. Individually I can protect myself but that is little comfort if I get long covid and lose my job.",
">\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear it. The road has just been heavily sabotaged with politics and misinformation. Covid will hurt a lot of people in the US because of this, somewhat, forced designation removal.\nFor the pragmatic individuals like myself we see the road that is paved with politics, misinformation and good ol American stubbornness having a huge hole in it when it comes to the \"next thing\". If we, for example, get a disease in the h1n1 levels of virility as the \"next one\" A LOT of people are going to die because of bad lessons learned from this go around.",
">\n\n\nA proper road ahead is pretty clear\n\nOK, but what is it?",
">\n\nCongrats to COVID for winning the war on COVID.",
">\n\nGreat. Once the emergency declarations are lifted we'll just have COVID-19.",
">\n\nY'all know you can still take precautions against COVID without there being emergency declarations right?",
">\n\nSure, but that ain't gonna make the hospitals any less crowded. \nEvery procedure I've had for the last three years has faced major difficulties in availability thanks to the combination of the pandemic and doctor burnout. \nIt's the sole reason my right knee is still pitiful human flesh and not kick-ass chrome-plated titanium.",
">\n\nAre the emergency declarations making the hospitals less crowded?",
">\n\nI honestly don't know what these people actually want. We are 3 years out now and I see maybe 5% masked out in public. Everyone who wanted to get the vaccine has received it. People are over it, we have done what we can do. China stayed isolated indoors for 3 years and is currently getting overrun, I'm not sure what people who complain about removing the emergency declaration are actually wanting the government to do for them?\nJust wear a mask in public and avoid people, if that's what you want to do.",
">\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that testing, vaccines, and treatments will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many. Keep in mind with the current accessible vaccines yearly injections are recommended for continued coverage. Those that get sick or exposed are still recommended to be tested and receive appropriate treatment. While that was fully covered in the past none of it will be when the declaration ends. Not to mention vaccines, testing, and treatment are all active events people must willingly partake in, the government could’ve required COVID funds be used for passive mitigation efforts like implementing appropriate filtration and sterilization to air systems for schools. Passive mitigation strategies benefit the public health of the community without requiring the community to actually make an effort themselves. Instead COVID funds went to personal pet projects of local politicians.",
">\n\n\nOne of the impacts of removing the declaration is that ... vaccines ... will no longer be fully covered by private insurance or Medicaid creating a financial burden for many.\n\nWho pays for my free yearly flu vaccine, or the whole host of vaccines my children have received since they were born? I would imagine, with the recent guidance on yearly COVID vaccines, it would be covered the same as all the others we receive through our life.",
">\n\nNot sure of your personal situation but for my family the flu shot was only covered if it was administered in the office of my child’s government selected PCP. Otherwise I was required to pay for the flu shot to be administered at a pharmacy or other location. Her PCP doesn’t carry the flu or COVID shot in office, nor do any of the other pediatricians in our area that are on the state funded health plan.",
">\n\nAs a Canadian... What the fuck?\nI roll up to the pharmacy of my local grocery store in the Fall and have my shot done in 5 minutes... Flash my provincial health card and that's that... \nOh, I'm not at the grocery store but there's literally any pharmacy here? I can go there and get it done... \nI'm at my GP for a physical? I can get it there... \nI'm at the walk-in clinic to get something minor checked? I can get it there instead... \nShit, I'm surprised we don't have drive-thru options yet xD",
">\n\nYes we’re well aware y’all have a better healthcare system - the comparisons have been beaten to death on this site",
">\n\nFrequent reminders that you should have it better than you do are not necessarily a bad thing… Get out of the complacency and demand better.",
">\n\nwhat about those student loans? removing the declaration would give legal challenge ...",
">\n\nPsst...that ship has sailed. I would have owed $700 between my spouse and me. Guess what, fully prepared to start paying back the 20k now.\nThey don't care about us and never did. As long as businesses, owners, and CEOs keep their money flowing. Doesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.",
">\n\n\nDoesn't matter who you vote for. It's shit vs shittier.\n\nYes but that shittier is EXTREMELY shittier. I mean the Dems did actually push for student debt relief and were blocked by radical right wing judges. Should they have fought harder? Absofuckinglutely. But playing both sides as usual is a joke.",
">\n\nReminiscent of W. Bush on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished banner.",
">\n\nUs: “Are you sure it’s really ov—“\nGovt: “It SAYS ‘Mission Accomplished’.”\nUs: “But—“\nGovt: “MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.”",
">\n\nSoooo Biden didn't actually want student loan forgiveness then, right? How is this supposed to be argued in court when he declares Covid is over.",
">\n\nThis surprises you? This was just to get voters out in the last election. \nThe sooner you understand that all politicians are scum the better off you will be not having hurt feelings when they don’t deliver on their lies.",
">\n\nNever said it surprised me. If anything I'm not surprised.",
">\n\nPeople are freaking out...but does anyone actually believe it's feasible to have an emergency declaration in place forever? We have vaccines and at this point it has to be treated like the flu. We can't live in a perpetual state of emergency.",
">\n\nThe Patriot Act was an emergency response that was in effect as a reaction to 9/11 and that's still in effect today.",
">\n\nWould someone please inform Covid-19 of this development.",
">\n\nDownright strange that this article doesn't mention >10,000 people are dying every month in the US from COVID. Weird and probably just a coincidence that MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc. also aren't reporting these numbers or on COVID-19 morbidity.",
">\n\nNope, from COVID",
">\n\nYou are absolutely promoting misinformation and you could clear it up but instead you opt for conspiracies rather than accepting that it’s a severe undercount. I don’t know if it’s just because you lack the mental capacity to understand or if it’s a defense mechanism in a traumatizing time or if you think you are smarter than you are but you’re wrong and should consider that staying silent prevents anyone from seeing how foolish you are.",
">\n\nMeanwhile, my husband will be bringing home my fourth case of Covid...\nHe's a Special Procedures technologist at a hospital.\nYes, we are both vaxxed.",
">\n\nwhat kind of mask does he wear at work?\nhopefully its some sort of respirator",
">\n\nA hood (not sure how to spell it)and an N-95. I don't touch him when he gets home and clothes go directly into the wash. No hugs or kisses until after he showers. I'm immunocompromised so he tries really hard not to bring it home.",
">\n\nThe big guy collected his 10% already?",
">\n\nThey really shat on the word “emergency”",
">\n\nContinuing the new American tradition of ignoring a pandemic that has not gone away. And saying fuck the medically vulnerable.",
">\n\nVaccine and boosters, plus a mask in many situations are a good idea. There is a large spectrum of ways to place safeguards without doing what China did, and I never said we could make it go away. It will not go away. Doing nothing and having nothing in place to assist people is a bad idea.",
">\n\nAll if that can still be done tho. So what does this really change?",
">\n\nFunding and the ability of the executive branch to do its job.",
">\n\nThe next “extension” bs right before it expires in 3 2 1...",
">\n\nThis probably wont cause any major issues! Right??",
">\n\nWhy that randomly selected date? Seems odd",
">\n\nThey really said “Fuck the Poors” huh",
">\n\nIt sucks that the \"new normal\" is always worse than the previous normal. It doesn't have to be, but we make the worst of all the choices.",
">\n\nStill roughly the third leading cause of death behind cancer and heart disease. I'm sure ignoring it entirely is the best option.",
">\n\nThat’s not what this is.",
">\n\nTitle: U.S. to end COVID-19 emergency declarations on May 11\nMost people on this thread: oooh pornhub hat",
">\n\nOh good, that'll fix it.",
">\n\nGood luck, immunocompromised. You didn't matter before, you matter even less now.",
">\n\nHow did the immunocompromised survive before Covid with the flu and other seasonal respiratory illnesses?",
">\n\nThose weren't as easily spread as COVID and didn't result in the same damaging short and long-term effects that can happen with COVID.",
">\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?",
">\n\n\nSo what do you propose then to help the immunocompromised, and for how long do you think those measures should be in place?\n\nHow about not kicking a significant number of them off Medicaid and removing affordable (read: free) options for both testing and vaccinations?\n\nBecause that's what this is doing. It isn't ending mask mandates. Nobody is enforcing those at this point. This is 100% about booting people off government programs (austerity without calling it such) that protect their lives.\n\nBut don't take my word for it: read what will actually happen. I mean, it was linked in the article, too, but here's a direct one.\n\nThis has a wide range of negative effects from clawing back health coverage from children and adults, ending subsidized tests and vaccines, kicking people off food assistance, and revoking your ability to receive experimental therapies (EUA).\n\nLiterally nothing to do with masking and staying six feet apart. The only people saying that are those with a political message to sell or people who haven't set foot outside their houses for more than a year and a half to realize nobody is doing that anymore except for extreme minority outliers.\n\nThis is 100% cruel, 100% heartless, and 100% class warfare waged by the rich against the people who work for a living and their loved ones. Because this money isn't going to just disappear; it's going to be reappropriated upwards like always happens.",
">\n\nThe amount of people in this thread saying \"you can still wear a mask lol\" is just proof that covid gave people brainrot.",
">\n\nI was living in Texas in 2020 and people there declared the pandemic was over less than 2 months after lockdown. Most people stopped wearing masks and social distancing. A few weeks later there was a huge surge in cases and deaths in the city I lived in. So I guess those morons were really forward thinking.\nStupid is as stupid dies.",
">\n\nI got deployed to Texas over the summer of 2020 because of COVID. It was absolutely jarring to spend my days in hospitals all over the state watching people suffer & die and then go back to my hotel and watch people in droves go about their lives carefree on the riverwalk.",
">\n\nThe escalating COVID-19 pandemic is a mass disabling event; this is a reality that we cannot ignore, as our bodies will continue to fail prematurelyvall around us.",
">\n\nI got Covid for the first time two weeks ago. I was in bed for a week and got easily winded upon simple exertions. Stay vigilant despite what others are doing. Covid is still out there and no joke! Make sure when you are indoors that rooms are well ventilated - window open or air purifiers.",
">\n\nYes, but can you imagine how bad it would have been at the beginning? I lost someone I considered an aunt, or another mother. The lack of empathy everyone had or lack of inaction stunned me, still does.",
">\n\nThere you go. Its magically disappeared. /s\nMy constant hard of breathing and constant coughing for two months after being totally vax to the hilt and getting COVID says otherwise.",
">\n\nMaybe it’ll get rid of that and my horrible hacking cough too! Can’t have long covid if there’s no more covid!",
">\n\nHurray only 4 more months and then the pandemic is officially over! Its okay guys the government said so!",
">\n\nHere am i just now getting COVID for the first time after all this…",
">\n\nA 9/11 is happening every week in the US. But nobody wants to see or hear about people still dying by the truckload every day.\nWish there was a way out of this fucking Ponzi scheme of a country.",
">\n\nWhy is it still considered an emergency now?",
">\n\nBecause we are still very much in a pandemic!",
">\n\nOkay, well this pandemic isnt going away so are we just going to declare an emergency for the rest of time?",
">\n\nWe have had continuing declared emergencies that have lasted decades in the US. It is a legal maneuver, not a statement of fact.",
">\n\nOh is it? Husband infected for second time",
">\n\nI hate reading this missing work sick af wondering if I will make rent. My husband told me not to go but he hurt his leg so he can't work unt he sees his surgeon. I almost went in today and he said 'what if you kill an old person?\" \nI said \" well that's a chance they took when they voted to keep this economy like it is with no fallback protection for illness.\" I didn't go because I did actually feel bad about the prospect of killing an old person but at the same time man if you make someone choose between housing their kids and possibly spreading something that could kill someone it's not rocket science a lot of people are gonna be sick and maybe die.",
">\n\nso the solution is now ear plugs in and hands over eyes (but not the mouth or nose?)",
">\n\nAgain biden said it ended a while ago lol hahaha. This is all so stupid",
">\n\nDoes this mean unvaccinated travellers will be permitted entry?",
">\n\nBut wait, I was assured by many that the mandates were only about government control and would never end? The only people who predicted this ending were folks who had at the very least a basic understanding of science. What a twist!",
">\n\nHow have they chosen this date? Seems fucked",
">\n\nThe answer is in the article.",
">\n\nAt my work, we took the plastic barriers down months ago.\nI immediately got sick, manager caught COVID for the 4th time.\nI wish the barriers were permanent.",
">\n\nWhat about long COVID?",
">\n\nThe end of the PHE doesn’t mean the government thinks COVID, long or otherwise, is over. It’s just that we no longer need the legal flexibilities the PHE allows in order to deal with it.",
">\n\nThank you for your response. It seems like there still remains a lot of mystery concerning the effects.",
">\n\nThe only mystery is how people will pay for the medical treatment :)",
">\n\nIt isn't a mystery, they die. That is the point.",
">\n\nPeople I know are still getting it so yeah, it's still a thing unfortunately for a lot of us.",
">\n\nOh man... we're fucked if this thing blows up again because no one is going back to taking this seriously. Even people I know who got every shot & wore masks have completely disconnected from basic care. And they're getting sick with everything under the clouds because they have reverted to pre-pandemic behaviors.\nAnti-vaxxers sure love downvoting.",
">\n\nThe battle was lost three years ago. Once it wasn't initially contained, all the measures half-assedly put in place just worked to hamper the economy and hurt small businesses. It was a go hard or go home situation and we flacidly hung around choosing a shitty option c. Look at us now; divided, stuck in our houses, losing money daily.",
">\n\nWhat country beat Covid? Sure many countries did better than US, but it seems like Covid is endemic around the world, including places like New Zealand that had a good run.",
">\n\nThat's my point. All the lockdowns, quarantines and mandates resulted in fuck all but suffering for those who have the audacity to try and run their own businesses. I agreed with all the stuff(it was the word of our scientific community) but in the aftermath it's impossible to honestly say it was handled correctly. .",
">\n\nWhy wait until May? Where I’m at, nobody pays attention to it anyway.",
">\n\nCases and deaths on the rise sounds about right",
">\n\nCases and deaths have been declining for the last month and essentially flat since March before that.",
">\n\nThis only emboldens the people who give zero fucks about everyone else to harass and bully others into dropping their precautions too lest they look like conspiracy crazies. Mask wearing, social distancing, washing your hands after pissing, covering your mouth when sneezing and coughing, and not going to work while sick all out the window. \nBusinesses demand consumption and Covid disproportionately impacts the lower (and to the wealthy , the most expendable) classes the most. \nThis will also make it much more difficult to justify working from home so the companies that own large offices can rest knowing their portfolio won't depreciate. \nEven if you pretend the deaths aren't anything, the more times you get COVID the more likely you will develop long COVID. But I guess this helps when you pay into a pension then die before collecting too much. \nIt must suck being a scientist. Every major warning gets ignored or gets an outright hostile response. \nI'm very curious how this will play out, if we make it that far that is given all the other shit lowering our collective life expectancies.",
">\n\nJust a reminder that Biden has been just as dogshit as Trump when it comes to covid. You are not important to your government, never forget that.",
">\n\nNothing to see here, move along back to shopping and eating out. Don't mind these body bags and chronic-ill masses.",
">\n\nI hate to wear masks, but the one place where I'm ok with it is the hospital.\nTo me, a hospital is a germ factory and I don't mind wearing a mask there, not just from covid. Otherwise though fuck off.",
">\n\nIt's taken me 40 years to be able to wear a mask in a bank without being arrested. I'm not giving that up without a fight.",
">\n\nNow where are all the morons who were so sure the emergency covid powers were to to hold power forever?",
">\n\nThey’ve been replaced by people who don’t understand why a PHE doesn’t need to go on forever and why ending a PHE isn’t the same thing as declaring the problem solved.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it happen.",
">\n\nHow much you want to bet suddenly Republicans will be shrieking about how Biden doesn't take COVID seriously and that it's the worst disease ever and the end of the world.",
">\n\n(They won’t)",
">\n\n\" The government has been paying for COVID-19 vaccines, some tests and certain treatments under the PHE declaration. \"\n\" The COVID-19 national emergency and public health emergency (PHE) were put in place in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump. \"\nMaybe the only good thing Trump did while in office and our bought-and-paid-for president is going to take it away.\nIt's official, the corporations have won.",
">\n\nWhat’s crazy is Trump both did horrifically dumb things but also did some good things when it came to COVID. \nHis biggest mistake was botching the PPP distribution under Kushner, and his aversion to wearing a mask, which forced him and his supporters into a corner where they had to shit\non science every day to keep their self-esteem intact. \nSo you had this weird dynamic where Trump was authorizing funds to help vaccines get created but also he was questioning whether they worked or whether COVID was really even a threat (while also getting MEGA vaxxed behind closed doors, being petrified of it, and nearly dying when he caught it).\nBiden did nearly the exact opposite. He put competent people in charge, praised and followed science with public statements, authorized a shit ton of funds, gets vaxxed publicly, wears masks…but the CDC kept watering down guidance to the point where Trump’s prophecy of “if the Dems get elected, COVID will just magically ‘go away’” came true. \nAs to outside influences on these two President, Let’s not pretend Trump wasn’t bought and paid for. He wasn’t some “outsider” who was operating in good faith trying to help the common man. Biden has unquestionably been an enormous improvement and has gotten significant legislation passed. \nBUT…the 2024 elections will hinge in large part on how the voting public feels about COVID. \nBiden is an old fossil of a man, and while I think he’s done a fine job overall…if he runs again, it looks like he will face DeSantis in the general elections. \nAnd DeSantis, as it stands now, will wipe the floor with Biden in the swing states. Conservatives, moderates, and any liberal\nCOVID-deniers/COVID-fatigued voters are going to greatly prefer DeSantis’ COVID track record. \nDeSantis is a really smart guy who will smoke Biden at debates. \nMy guess is the Biden admin knows that strict COVID guidelines, even if needed, are too hot of a political potato and if there are any strict COVID guidelines come election time….there is no way they can keep the White House. \nTLDR: I think this is less of a bought-and-paid for move by Biden’s admin and more of a politically expedient “read the tea leaves” moment trying to set the stage for 2024 mid terms. And caving to public pressure on matters of public health is a both feature and bug when it comes to democratic forms of government.",
">\n\nBotched makes it seem like a mistake, some sort of \"oopsy\". It wasn't. They stole the equipment from states that had already paid for it, resold it in many cases back to those same states for even more then what they paid in the first place, and pocketed the profits. He didn't mishandle anything, he didn't make a decision that turned out to be wrong, him and his lizard offspring knew exactly what they were doing. They were using this pandemic as a way to fill the pockets of themselves and their grifter buddies, and didn't give a single fuck how many people died because of it.",
">\n\nYes. I was using “botched” in the most generous sense possible. You are totally correct. \nIMO, it was absolutely criminal what they did with PPP. Hundreds of thousands (if not more) of completely preventable deaths are on the hands of the Trump administration. \nEvery single person involved with that atrocity should rot in jail for life. \nTrump said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and not lose support. \nHe killed the equivalent of a Hiroshima bomb worth of supporters…and despite getting crushed in the general election by over 7 million votes, his approval among his supporters went UP to the rabidly insane levels we saw on Jan 6.",
">\n\nMillions will die as a direct result of this decision and tens of millions more will have lifetime complications as a result of long covid. This is unconscionable.",
">\n\ncontinue the cleansing, in which the Earth requires...",
">\n\nBe the change you want to see in the world.",
">\n\nWelp. Guess the 9/11 worth of deaths a week will just be expected going forward. We will need to mask for the rest of our lives to be safe from the death lottery. Wish we had properly locked down all those years ago, now it's just the slow tumble to collapse.",
">\n\nIt's OK, I don't even like my grandparents.",
">\n\nIs this the end for work from home ?",
">\n\nWhat do you? It was fuvking bullshit the handling don’t stop it",
">\n\nWell it was nice having Medicaid for a few years.",
">\n\nI thought it ended in April 2020? No one really cared anyways.",
">\n\nGood, but where is the dystopian dictatorship I was promised by Qanon and the GOP? /s",
">\n\nEven though COVID is still here, why continue helping people that need it? Should reverse the ridiculously high inflation rate to pre-pandemic levels so people won't require support by their government.",
">\n\nTry reading some financial news. The inflation rate has been declining for months. Meanwhile unemployment rates remain low.",
">\n\nNeed I remind you that it was Biden and the CDC under his watch, that ended many of the then very helpful COVID guidelines such as 2 week quarantines for the those that were exposed to COVID positive people - and reduced sick days to 3-5 days after testing COVID positive but with no symptoms. \nAll the COVID mandates we’re dropped during Biden’s & Faucci’s oversight, not while\nTrump was in office. And many of these things were done in spite of protests by health professionals calling for a reversal in policy, but neither Biden nor the CDC listened because the economy was far more important than health. And now, yet again, under Biden, he plans to magically “end COVID” by declaring it no longer a state of emergency. \nTrump was a POS, but yeah! Let’s keep blaming him for the shit that Biden has been failing to do. God forbid it was trump and his administration that was dropping all of these COVID mandates that Biden dropped and is continuing to drop despite rising cases."
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fun fact: the cordyceps fungus has been found to not touch the ant’s brain. It merely grows through the ant’s muscles and controls its whole body. Which honestly is more terrifying than if it went for the brain. | [] |
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Yep. Being trapped, conscious, inside your body utterly unable to do anything. Real "I have no mouth and I must scream" shit | [
"fun fact: the cordyceps fungus has been found to not touch the ant’s brain. It merely grows through the ant’s muscles and controls its whole body. Which honestly is more terrifying than if it went for the brain."
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Fungi has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me with life in helllll | [
"fun fact: the cordyceps fungus has been found to not touch the ant’s brain. It merely grows through the ant’s muscles and controls its whole body. Which honestly is more terrifying than if it went for the brain.",
">\n\nYep. Being trapped, conscious, inside your body utterly unable to do anything. Real \"I have no mouth and I must scream\" shit"
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