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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man."
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It will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering."
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Lied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison! | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man."
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Oh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.
Bet he changes his tune after that. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!"
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Our justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath."
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Here’s a quick list of what will happen to him:
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced"
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It is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some.
Flat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded).
It is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing.
He needs to be crucified for so very many things. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in."
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Perjury right? | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying"
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Are Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !! | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?"
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It's honestly to the point where the guy has """been in trouble"""" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring."
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oh wow Trump is a liar. headline news.
also, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.
glad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit."
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Decades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!"
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So, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in "hot water" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work... | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work..."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?"
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A fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽 | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!"
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He spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges"
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Nothing will happen.
Just like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden.
It's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want."
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I am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison."
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It doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point."
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Is he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law."
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My Fellow Americans
We the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information
We the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more
This time, by peaceful demonstration
courage and service to others
We the People are still alive and kicking
We the People need to just organize
We the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of
selfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth"
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Wrap it up boys! We gottem this time!
This is it! He’s done for!
…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right?
Finally. It’s all over.
Woooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!
I’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free"
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because if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.
We could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough.
I'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.
At least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire. | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it"
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The only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.
Maybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance | [
"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance"
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People can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof",
">\n\nGood he can share a jail cell with Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof",
">\n\nGood he can share a jail cell with Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci.",
">\n\nIt is obviously a witch hunt."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof",
">\n\nGood he can share a jail cell with Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci.",
">\n\nIt is obviously a witch hunt.",
">\n\nHe’s not, and everyone knows it"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof",
">\n\nGood he can share a jail cell with Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci.",
">\n\nIt is obviously a witch hunt.",
">\n\nHe’s not, and everyone knows it",
">\n\nOh we've surely got him this time!"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof",
">\n\nGood he can share a jail cell with Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci.",
">\n\nIt is obviously a witch hunt.",
">\n\nHe’s not, and everyone knows it",
">\n\nOh we've surely got him this time!",
">\n\nCan he appeal on the grounds of an ineffective console? Or no?"
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof",
">\n\nGood he can share a jail cell with Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci.",
">\n\nIt is obviously a witch hunt.",
">\n\nHe’s not, and everyone knows it",
">\n\nOh we've surely got him this time!",
">\n\nCan he appeal on the grounds of an ineffective console? Or no?",
">\n\nIve had one of those a few rimes now. Two PS3s, an Xbox, Wii... no one cares."
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"This is the real reason lawyers consider him radioactive, btw. \nThe lack of paying anyone definitely doesn't help him, but Trump cannot be truthful to save his life. Literally. He doesn't lie strategically. He lies impulsively, and he has no memory of what he's already lied about in the past.\nIf he were anyone else other than a wealthy white asshole with a giant silver spoon up his asshole and political power thanks to his remarkable ability to rouse the most simple and gullible people in the country, he'd be in jail on so many different charges that he'd never see the light of day even if he were immortal.",
">\n\nAt one point his lawyers at the time said that they had to meet with him in pairs because the man is incapable of telling the truth.",
">\n\nYeah and they mean literally incapable. \nAll politicians lie, obviously, but usually they do it strategically. They do it towards a goal. They do a risk calculation before telling a lie to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. This is, if not ethical, very normal behavior. \nThat's not Trump. He lies impulsively, he lies in a manner that routinely creates far more problems for him than it solves, and he cannot control or stop himself.\nUsually one of the criteria you use to determine compulsivity is whether someone does it even at times that is clearly inconvenient and destructive. \nThat's Trump and lying.\nMeanwhile, even if we believe the wildest conspiracy theories that Clinton was lying about every detail of Benghazi, she got in front of a panel of seasoned prosecutors who wanted to crucify her, and she testified, under oath, for ten straight hours, and they didn't get shit on her. \nMeanwhile, armies of lawyers have moved heaven and Earth to prevent Trump from entering a similar situation because he's just too colossally stupid to last five minutes.",
">\n\nAl Franken put it precisely and succinctly: \"Defending Trump by saying 'all politicians lie' is like defending Jeffrey Dahmer by saying 'everyone eats things they shouldn't.'\"",
">\n\nThis is a really great line.",
">\n\nI miss Al Franken as a Senator.",
">\n\nMe too. When I think of all the people that should have stepped down and didnt, and he did. For something that really was not a big deal. The woman in question is a right wing nut job and it seems like he just did not want to deal with it. At the time a lot of people were getting \"cancelled\" and I think he just didn't want to get caught up in all the bullshit. He should have stuck it out I think.",
">\n\nYou’re forgetting the part where dems threw him under the bus cough Gillibrand cough",
">\n\nYeah, but she's basically a right-wing politico anyway. Blue dogs aren't true allies.",
">\n\nThere are consistent themes in the article that have held up over the years. \n1) Trump’s lawyers never want him deposed or testifying because he will always perjure himself. \n2) Trump’s lawyers presenting shabby legal briefings or arguments that are often characterized by legal experts as “jokes”.",
">\n\n\nfined him $10,000 a day\n\nDid he ever show up, or is the rounding error still increasing for the \"billionaire\"?",
">\n\nIIRC, he finally showed up and the judge dismissed the fines.",
">\n\nReally showed him.\nDelay, delay, delay, judge gets angry and imposes fines, you show up, all is forgiven. Rinse. Repeat.",
">\n\nIs it justice if a criminal is allowed to live his entire life without consequence?",
">\n\nThere can still be justice here, because we're not just talking about Trump the individual. We're, in essence, talking about the Trump dynasty. Him, his parents, his children, brothers, sisters, and others.\nIf Donald gets legally destroyed before he dies, his children will have to face fallout that can prevent them from being as destructive as he has been throughout his life.\nHis daughter, for example, is every bit as bad as he is only she's potentially not as stupid as her father which makes her far more dangerous.",
">\n\nI think that's optimistic. Even if Trump Sr. gets destroyed, his kids can claim injustice, \"deep state\", play the victim and Trump supporters will lap it up, and be even angrier than they already are.",
">\n\nI just said that there can be justice.\nI'm not optimistic.",
">\n\n\nTrump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” And he claimed that he didn’t have a financial stake in a partnership with the real estate company Vornado, even though he previously testified that he did.\nOn Tuesday, the New York Attorney General’s Office asked Justice Arthur F. Engoron to intervene quickly to ensure that the former president still faces a trial later this year that could bankrupt his company.",
">\n\nHe also said the trump organization doesn’t exist\n“The result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades.\nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.”",
">\n\nThe only person dumber in this story than Trump is Alina Habba, literally one of the dumbest lawyers in the country.",
">\n\nHow does he keep finding these people?",
">\n\nShes kind of attractive and will have an excellent career as a fox news host once shes disbarred.",
">\n\nEven his lawyer is in trouble.\n\nThe result was a legal document that read like a joke, with Trump attorney Alina Habba going as far as claiming there is formally no such thing as the “Trump Organization’—a ridiculous position, given that it’s a billion-dollar company Trump used to build his reputation over decades. \nOn Tuesday, the AG’s office called her out on that too, noting that in November she began a court hearing before this very judge by introducing herself as an attorney for that company.\n\n“Good morning, Your Honor. Alina Habba for Trump Organization, Donald Trump, et cetera,” she said on Nov. 22 in a New York City courtroom.\nI think these moronic assholes think they can play semantic games with the court. I guess we'll see if they're right.",
">\n\nYou don't think this judge is antisemantic do you?",
">\n\nCareful, rhetoric like that could start Word War 3",
">\n\nThis actually made me laugh out loud.",
">\n\n“Former President Donald Trump appears to have lied in sworn court records, opening him up to severe sanctions by a New York judge …”\nHasn’t he lied in sworn testimony before? It appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. If the DOJ fails to hold Trump accountable, it will have a devastating impact on our democracy going forward. It will send a message to future presidents and the world that our democracy is up for grabs.",
">\n\n\nIt appears the glacial pace of the DOJ investigation is for one of two or three reasons? DOJ is hoping the Georgia DA beats them to the punch so she can take on the responsibility for prosecuting him. Or DOJ is being overly meticulous in their investigation before indicting a former president. Or DOJ is planning on pushing the goal post to the next election and then holding off. \n\nI think it's more likely the DOJ is treating this investigation like a mafia RICO case, which can potentially take down his whole crime/coup syndicate. RICO is particularly effective at taking down slippery mafioso-wannabe types who coerce lackeys to do most of their lawbreaking for them. \nThe DOJ clearly has enough to convict him on some individual crimes, so there's no particular rush--they can keep those in their pocket to charge him any time they want. No need to charge the first convictable scraps when they're part of a much more comprehensive investigation into conspiracy, sedition, racketeering, insurrection, fraud, and maybe even espionage. \n\nJustice delayed is Justice denied. Any other American would’ve been in jail years ago. \n\nEh, not really. Any other American at the center of a massive conspiracy involving crimes in several states, involving violence, fraud, and government corruption, with 1000+ co-conspirators ranging from militia seditionists to the highest levels of government would likely be subject to a multi-year investigation. \nJustice rushed is justice flushed? I think rooting out and taking down the entire conspiracy is much more important than just putting Trump in jail as fast as possible.",
">\n\nIt would have been *really nice* of the DOJ to charge Trump, et al, with Logan Act violations for the Trump Tower meeting. \nOr, any of the dozen other things listed in the Mueller Report. \nOr any of the hundred other things that were dealt with civilly that should have been criminal.",
">\n\nI think weirdly that is part of the challenge. Trump spent his presidency trying to spoil the well of so many of his crimes. Anything in the Mueller was poison because it was so politicized they would struggle to get a conviction.\nThey need to build a rock solid case so that it can get through a jury of his peers, 25% of who adore this man.",
">\n\nThe GOP has been laying this groundwork, for 3+ decades.",
">\n\nHow about everyone stops threatening to punish him and actually punish him?",
">\n\nHe’s not going to get prosecuted. The dems really want to run against him in 2024",
">\n\nThe dems really want him to run as 3rd party candidate, specifically. He will be there to fuck with the GOP every 4 years until he dies.",
">\n\nKeep in mind, one can run for president after conviction, even while in prison.",
">\n\nOh I didn't know that, I thought your rights gets suspended until you are released. Good to know!",
">\n\nYou can't vote, but you can be elected.",
">\n\nCant legally shoot a gun\nCan legally shoot nuclear warheads",
">\n\nAt some point, some judge is going to say, \"Enough is enough.\"",
">\n\nPlease let it be any FUCKING day now",
">\n\nI'd just be happy with any 'fucking year' by this point. I have about 9 years left (according to the SS mortality tables) and I'd like to see the Orange Shitgibbon behind bars before I shuffle off my mortal coil.",
">\n\nI fear we may see him die before him seeing genuine consequences, honestly.",
">\n\nI have a nice bottle of wine set aside for the day he sheds his mortal coil. Gives me a lot of motivation to eat right and exercise.",
">\n\nCovid really let me down…",
">\n\ntrump’s been swimming the backstroke in boiling water for decades and nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nSeriously. He's like those bacteria that live in geysers, perfectly at home in the hottest water.",
">\n\nI have a feeling, that like with Hitler, nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. As soon as the first indictment hits, the rest will follow very fast",
">\n\nIf this were anyone reading this sub: we would be in jail right now if we lied to a judge. \nNo question about it.",
">\n\nIs he? I haven't seen him in any hot water considering there's been zero attempt to punish him for every crime he's committed.",
">\n\nHe's been in legal hot water for like 60 years. Nothing ever happens.",
">\n\nHow has he been able to break law after law and get away with it!?! We should all be furious.",
">\n\nEveryone with basic reading and comprehension skills is, in fact, furious. But given that our fury has resulted in no one who has the power to hold him accountable actually holding him accountable, most of us are at the “throw our hands up in disgust” stage. \nLiving in an utterly corrupt oligarchy is fun!",
">\n\nWe can debate fun topics like whether the correct term is oligarchy, plutocracy, kakistocracy, etc while we wait to see if it resolves to theocracy, fascism or feudalism. Who knows what could happen!",
">\n\nI know! Living in interesting times! Hurrah!",
">\n\nSo, is he going to be found in contempt and jailed until the court is satisfied of his regret? Y'know, like the rest of us ordinary humans everywhere?",
">\n\nI’ve said it before but - someone’s gonna have to be the one to have to go arrest him, which may or may not happen on live tv. And then deal with the wrath of the Trump People. \nAnd I don’t say that to be funny. That person is now in serious danger. Whoever arrests him will have to wear a ski mask like the police in Mexico when they arrest cartel members. I can’t believe we’re coming to that point now. But I think that’s what it’s going to have to be. Whoever arrests him will have to remain anonymous.",
">\n\nMy question has always been, how the hell do you impanel a jury for this case? Jury registration is based on voter rolls, so you need someone registered to vote but without a strong opinion on him",
">\n\n40% of voting-age people don’t vote.",
">\n\nOh I'm aware, but only people registered are eligible, and even those that don't vote still probably have an opinion, he's a very controversial figure, you'd be hard pressed to find someone oblivious enough to not have a strongly held opinion AND registered to vote",
">\n\nWhile presented without the full context, the following statement seems more accurate than anything I've heard come out of his mouth:\n\nWell, I wasn’t active during the time I was at 1600,” Trump said, referring to the White House address. “I would say that I was an inactive president...”",
">\n\nIf there's one thing he's learned during his presidency it's how to lie and that his base will still bow down before him",
">\n\nAt this point, I am fairly certain he actually did kill someone on 5th ave.",
">\n\nJesus Christ what will it take to lock this man up?!?",
">\n\n‘Hefty fines’? Jared Kushner sneered as his lower face split apart to assume the thin crease of a human smile, ‘I still have 2 Billion dollars legally given to me by a foreign interest if you need to pay those…or I could just pay for your next presidential campaign’",
">\n\n….But Miraculously Continues to Evade Any Sort of Prosecution",
">\n\nDonald Trump claimed to have committed perjury during a debate before the 2016 election. This will probably have as many consequences.",
">\n\n“Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied.” So he lied to the public, which isn’t a crime",
">\n\nYes, he probably lied, but if so he lied by claiming to have committed a serious crime. That's not a crime (usually), but should warrant an investigation, no?",
">\n\nIf nothing ever happens to him is it really hot water?\nBecause right now it just seems like lawyers making tons of money and career moves for dog and pony show points. Trump will keep on trumpin and we'll get the bill.",
">\n\nHe’s digging that hole all the way to “Gyna”.",
">\n\nWhy is this guy even allowed to roam the streets and run for President? Lord help us",
">\n\nSadly judges only care about being lied to if the liar is someone they don't like. They all love them a Trump and it shows. They let Trump abuse, ridicule, delay, and disrespect the court for decades and they continue to allow it",
">\n\nThis is the rich feeling like they are above the law",
">\n\nFeeling like?",
">\n\nOops! At the very least, two personality traits are necessary to be a consistently competent liar. One trait is having slightly higher than average intellegence, the other is a iron clad memory.",
">\n\nThis feels like the Jerome Corsi case. He lied numerous times to FBI agents about various things. But in order to charge him with a crime, they had to prove that he did so knowingly. But each time they went to re-interview him, he'd give a new set of contradictory statements. They couldn't make his testimony coherent enough to charge him with intent to lie, because when you're completely untethered from objective reality, you're not lying intentionally, you're just so mixed up that you don't know what a lie or the truth is.\nTrump is a similarly disordered person.",
">\n\nAt least some crimes do not require intent.",
">\n\nWake me up when he’s actually charged with something.",
">\n\nHe has done that before, so what hot water?",
">\n\nOnly if he is held accountable.",
">\n\nWhy isn’t he behind bars yet? Oh right. Because money.",
">\n\nThe words ‘trump found guilty’ wouldn’t even matter to me at this point. He’d get no sentence anyways. The US does not have a justice system. It has a legal system that does not mess with the wealthy.",
">\n\nThis guy is a pathological liar. Santos is a trainee compared to him. Lying is in his DNA. It dont matter if he lies to a sanitation officer, a judge or the American public. It don't mean squat.",
">\n\nPut. \nHim.\nAway.\nALREADY",
">\n\nWhat happens if i do that?",
">\n\nIts called Perjury, its a felony.",
">\n\nTrump is a moron. He lies like a petulant child! He can't keep track of his lies. He tells them every time he opens his orange mouth. He lies are reactionary and has no strategy to his lies. Anyone who thinks he's playing 3D chess, doesn't realize he can't even play tic tac toe! Government shouldn't be run like a business! Much less should the leader treat it as such after failing so many businesses like he has.",
">\n\n\"I swear to god if you guys commit felonies 13 or 14 more times...\"",
">\n\nOh wow that only took a few minutes. Well if you guys commit 22 more by the end of the day.. COME ON. STOP IT.",
">\n\nI'm sure he'll totally be held accountable this time.",
">\n\n“That Makes Me Smart.” \nI’m printing tshirts with Donny in a jail bird suit with that quote for anyone that wants a preorder.",
">\n\n\"Trump theoretically in legal hot water for outrageous legal transgression that would land any average person in jail.\"",
">\n\nWhen oh when can we be finally rid of this shitstain?",
">\n\nTrump is a threat to the legal system. It’s well established that if you have enough money, you don’t get in trouble (as awful as that is). But he keeps Messing up so bad that’s it’s gojng to force the legal system to penalize him at some point right? Right? Maybe he’s so bad he’s good! Lol",
">\n\nThey will let him off once he tells them he had his fingers crossed when he lied",
">\n\nUntil Trump is put in jail all of this constant talk about legal hot water is just BS.",
">\n\nFry him",
">\n\nOh boy. He’s really going to hate that slap on the wrist.",
">\n\nNo slap, maybe a vigorous finger wag….",
">\n\nI’m glad we’re getting closer to consequences but it’s super frustrating that this man did so, so very many treasonous things and it’s lying to a judge that lands him in trouble, not *gestures wildly at everything else*",
">\n\nIf Trump does as much as 37 more blatantly illegal things, the DOJ is going to put him on double secret probation",
">\n\nSo satisfying seeing him FINALLY getting a minuscule portion of what the whole Trump family is due.",
">\n\nYeah let me know when that hot water actually means something other than a nice hot tub for him.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? We hear this crap nearly every day.\nOur justice system is toothless when it comes to the rich.",
">\n\n“Trump claimed he wasn’t the president of the Trump Organization during his four years at the White House, despite previously testifying that he was an “inactive president.” \nHe didn’t say whether he meant the inactive president of the business or the inactive president of the United States",
">\n\nSomeone wake me when he’s either behind bars, or he’s been legally barred from running for any public office ever again",
">\n\nThis guy is using all the hot water.",
">\n\nIs he actually in hot water, or is a bit of bad press going to be his only consequence as usual?",
">\n\nIf any us did that, we’d be in jail, btw.",
">\n\nYawn. Someone wake when he faces ANY real consequences from his life of crime",
">\n\nWhat hot water? The one from his hot tub?! Nothing ever happens to these criminals",
">\n\nWhat a loser defense to try. Well you see judge there is no such thing as the “Trump Organization” so lawsuit is invalid and I’m innocent 10000000% now and forever into infinity with NO take backs. You’ve just been Trumped!",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. It's sickening.",
">\n\nAh another story of trump doing illegal shit and facing zero consequences.",
">\n\nHis lawyer said that she was the attorney for Trump's organization. So if there's no organization, she was lying. Or Trump's lying all the many times he spoke about his organization. \nIt's Bizarro World.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until we stop pretending that this guy is going to see any consequences. I’m tired of seeing his face on my phone.",
">\n\nBut Trump never lies... *brain forcibly ejects itself onto the floor.",
">\n\n\nHOT WATER\n\nOh noes!! a rich guy will be forced to endure a small fine and see no jail time.\nSurely he'll learn his lesson now! -_-",
">\n\nDon’t people ever get tired of rolling out these ridiculously hyperbolic article and headlines?\nNothing is ever going to happen to the guy. Nothing.\nMove along.",
">\n\nDoes it matter? \nThe guy has avoided any real consequences. He called for treason, and sedition on live tv, incited a mob, and he just kicked off his campaign.\nCan we stop pretending he’s going to be held accountable? \nSeeing these headlines everyday since 2015 is just fucking pathetic for terrible our system is. This guy shouldn’t be able to work at an Arby’s, but he caters to the worst of the worst, and they prop him up. The other people bind their hands with red tape, and let people like trump use the system against itself. Rinse, and repeat",
">\n\nI understand your point but the alternative is to give up and let him win. I’d rather see him never get a moment’s peace again, even if he manages to game the system to win in court every time.",
">\n\nI’m 100% on your team. Fuck that orange POS.\nI’m infinitely frustrated with our legal system, and the people that run it. It’s about punishing the poor, and absolving the rich, and well connected. Trump is just visible sore, on a diseased entity.",
">\n\nCurse you 3M and your Teflon inventions!",
">\n\nOh no! Legal hot water! \nThe guy has been in legal hot water pretty much all of his adult life and hasn't had anything more than monetary repercussions. I believe he will pass on without seeing any serious consequences to his actions.",
">\n\nBeen seeing these headlines for years…the law doesn’t really apply to our rich overlords at this point, does it?",
">\n\nUntil there are some actual consequences, no he's not.",
">\n\nOoooh yeah Trump is really in hot water now, he must be totally panicking on...what... the fourteenth hole? Yes, what a terrible day for him, I wonder if he will have the overcooked steak or the overcooked lobster tonight as he is on his 30th year of being in the worst legal trouble of his life",
">\n\nor perhaps a steak done like Peterson recommends ... Wagyu with the fat drained off cooked in water...",
">\n\nNo more clicks until consequences.\nI am not clicking one more Trump justice edging walls are closing in hes in trouble clickbait story for ad money. Waste of time.",
">\n\nWake me up if/when he actually goes to prison",
">\n\nLet me guess nothing will be done and he will continue to break the law.",
">\n\nIf that idiot was really in actual 'Hot Water', then the water would be so hot at this point, that it would have fused into a second star. \nI wish they would ban any posts speculating on any sort of consequences for this fuck, until something actually happens.",
">\n\nNo, it’ll be different this time! Theres proof he did something illegal [again]! 😆🥲",
">\n\nNo he's not, and nothing will come of this.",
">\n\nI eagerly await absolutely no repercussions.",
">\n\nFocus people , the dumb one is president now ! \nTrump is gone !",
">\n\nTrump lies to everyone. Why should judges be any different?",
">\n\nAnd American Idiots are still saying 'he should be president.'",
">\n\nHow many laws will that guy break before something is actually done?",
">\n\nThe pot has been on the stove for two years, the water is all boiled off.\nWhen the fuck am i getting the meal?",
">\n\nNo he's not.",
">\n\nI'll hold my breath for the consequences",
">\n\nTrump lied? Oh no, oh no, oh nonononono.",
">\n\nYeah, this will be the thing that finally brings him down! Not",
">\n\nIf ordinary folk said shit like this, we'd be in a jail cell. \nTime to sanction and penalize his lawyers for these frivolous lawsuits. And time ot sanction and penalize Trump for lying in court proceedings.",
">\n\nI feel like he's been in legal trouble for years but nothing ever happens...",
">\n\nSo...when are the consequences going to make an appearance?",
">\n\nHasn’t fucking mattered so far!!",
">\n\nI will believe it when I see it.",
">\n\n1 million dollar fine!!! That’ll teach them!",
">\n\nOh great so it’s jail time as it would be for anyone else. Haha jk",
">\n\nPerhaps Trump will face the ultimate consequence: double secret probation!",
">\n\n“Dumb Rich Asshole continues to evade consequences for reasons.”",
">\n\nTrump… legal hot water… consequences for his actions… wake me up when it actually happens. At this point in his life he suffers no consequences for anything he does so why tell the truth at all? He can even perjure himself and not deal with consequences. He’s literally above the law.",
">\n\nThe water is as hot as the sun at this point.",
">\n\nGosh, it would be real nice to see him treated like an average citizen of a nation that upheld laws, for once….",
">\n\nUntil the guy faces the actual consequences for his crimes, these are just words. I think we’re all tired of just words. Actions please, and thank you.",
">\n\nOoo. He's so fucked. This time it's different. Any day now folks. Hammers coming down. This is the big one. They've got him. Yep, this time it'll stick.",
">\n\nNot legal hot water!",
">\n\nYeah whatever. It’s pretty clear he will never be held accountable for anything he does.",
">\n\nHe’s not even a good liar. He can’t keep track of his lies",
">\n\nTrump lied? Shocker",
">\n\nWho honestly believes he will ever see justice?",
">\n\nGreat, let me know when he does time. Beyond that, I don't care to hear anything about him.",
">\n\n…aaaand then nothing happened.",
">\n\nFixed it!\nTrump in Even More Legal Hot Water After Breathing.",
">\n\nHe said he wasn’t taking the 5th.",
">\n\nMore than zero? Wow. Amazing!",
">\n\nLock. Him. Up.",
">\n\nHot water? Oh no! What will he do?! /s",
">\n\nOh big whoop. Nothing is happening to him.",
">\n\nSo, Trump Organization doesn't exist? That's an interesting legal defense. We'll see how that works out for him",
">\n\nI feel like he could drink puppy blood, live on national TV and nothing would happen.",
">\n\nyawn, has he ever been out of hot water?",
">\n\nObligatory.",
">\n\nIs it more like a Legal Hot tub for him at this point, or is it ever going to actually get any hotter?",
">\n\nHe's starting to sound more and more like a confused old man.",
">\n\nA steambath of never coming indictments",
">\n\nIt will mean something if he goes to a real jail. Otherwise... This is how it's going to be. He's laying the groundwork for how to be in the states. Id say it's working too. A real test of the United States and it's failing",
">\n\nWon’t matter. Nothing matters for Trump when it comes to following the law.",
">\n\nOh no \"legal hot water.\" \nPrepare for more nothing to happen to him.",
">\n\nWake me when charges are actually filed",
">\n\nYou can read this at yahoo.com without registering.",
">\n\nI'll believe it when actual consequences happen to the man.",
">\n\nLied and lied some more Santos! Ho wait - Trump lier I hope will soon see Federal prison!",
">\n\nOh. No. More legal trouble. At this rate he's going to get such a stern talking to by some judge at his funeral.\nBet he changes his tune after that.",
">\n\nOur justice system has become that mother that keeps telling her kid that does something wrong every 5 minutes that if he does it one more time he's in big trouble. What a fucking embarrassment.",
">\n\nIt has yet to matter. I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nI judge other parents by whether or not they’d want their children to embody any single one of Donald Trump’s traits.",
">\n\nHere’s a quick list of what will happen to him:\n•",
">\n\nAnd nothing will happen. Because he's rich and we're poor. The sooner people understand this the better.",
">\n\nHeap it on the other consequences he has faced",
">\n\nHe’ll be in legal hot water until he dies of old age as a free man for all anyone is willing to do about it",
">\n\nIt is almost impressive the way that Trump and his legal team fires off every single last trick in the book and then some. \nFlat refusing to comply with court orders? Seeking to get the judge removed from the case after years of bullshit? Denying that there is a Trump Organization” when it’s lawyers introduce themselves to the court as representing the Trump org. Starting up a new shell company titled Trump Organization II and making it a revocable trust, then preemptively suing to prevent the courts from having jurisdiction over the trust (where all manner of wrath could be parked and shielded). \nIt is amazing. Sometimes I have wondered what would happen if someone just refuses the court’s authority… “I’m sorry, I don’t recognize your authority in this matter” and amazingly, it works. Amazing. \nHe needs to be crucified for so very many things.",
">\n\nImagine if anyone of us lied to a judge.",
">\n\nWake me when he’s being hauled off in handcuffs by burly men in black suits, kicking, screaming and soiling himself. Until that time, stop.",
">\n\nWalls are closing in.",
">\n\nIm amazed that grown ass adults think swearing prevents lying",
">\n\nPerjury right?",
">\n\nAre Trump and Santos related 🤔 ? It sure seems they are because, both of them a--holes are incapable of telling the TRUTH !!",
">\n\nIt's honestly to the point where the guy has \"\"\"been in trouble\"\"\"\" so long I'm starting to respect him. He literally just does whatever he wants with zero consequences. It's actually inspiring.",
">\n\nHow has this frog not boiled yet?",
">\n\noh wow Trump is a liar. headline news. \nalso, will this reset the clock on if anything meaningful will happen? no? ok.\nglad someone is keeping the liar relevant in the media.",
">\n\nGood.",
">\n\ndamn and he was just one 'plead the fifth' short of getting away with it all",
">\n\nIf he ain't been arrested it doesn't mean shit.",
">\n\nTrump should wear his Trump Superman costume to court so he can finally be declared insane!",
">\n\nDecades of this twat being dishonest and where has it got him..... The presidency and still grifting. Zero faith in the law anymore.",
">\n\nSo, a fine at worst? Perhaps just the declaration of Trump being in \"hot water\" will be deemed enough. A multi-tier justice system at work...",
">\n\nHow tf do you follow all this guy's lies?",
">\n\nLock Him Up Lock Him Up, more people need to speak out against him and see if republicans can grow some nerve and start speaking out how poor a leader he is.",
">\n\nA fine, yes and a huge one considering he just got a $1mil fine. But ultimately this could lead to summary judgment against Trump leading to the dissolution of his company and lifetime ban from any financing in NYC. That’s huge. 🤞🏽",
">\n\nTrump & George Santos 2024!! 🙄",
">\n\nElect George Santos for First President of USA!",
">\n\nMiss Universe!! 👑💄👠🫦",
">\n\nHe spent his whole life in legal hot water, this isn’t any different in the sense that he will face no consequences for his actions again. The circus continues.",
">\n\nWiggle words and weasel phrases don't work in front of judges",
">\n\nCon man lies???? What a shocker",
">\n\nNothing will happen. \nJust like nothing happened with crooked Hillary, or All the scandals with biden. \nIt's rules for thee, not for me. They are the elite. They do what they want.",
">\n\nHe'll never see the inside of a prison.",
">\n\nI am so fucking tired of seeing “Trump” + “hot water” in headlines. He’s been in hot water for years; absolutely nothing comes of it. He became the fucking POTUS while he was in “hot water”. He’s a fucking hard boiled egg at this point.",
">\n\nIt doesnt matter what Trump does, he will never be punished. He is above the law.",
">\n\nIs he in hot water though? When is he actually going to get in any real trouble for the literally endless bullshit he pulls? I’m not holding my breath.",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People request the justice system to charge this criminal with the crime of treason, for the crime of first degree murder[concerning deaths related to January 6th insurrection] the crime of conspiring with foreign powers to cause harm to the national security of the United States of America through the intentional misuse of the office of President and classified information \nWe the People deserve better in 2024 , The American People must join together as We the People united-we-stand to defend our Democracy once more\nThis time, by peaceful demonstration\ncourage and service to others \nWe the People are still alive and kicking \nWe the People need to just organize \nWe the People need to join together to defeat the principles and powers of\nselfish desires of power that divide us, that instill hate in the mindsets of others and cause the original American Dream to become the daily nightmare we endure \nDemocracy is about Life, Freedom and a pursuit of happiness for all people equally and fairly under the Constitution and Bill of Rights",
">\n\nIf trump were a POOR MAN, THE LAW WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND VERY HARSH TO HIM.",
">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy? 400 Time's 🤦 (damn???) He'll just plead the fifth",
">\n\nThere was a time that I’d be excited reading this. But he’s never going to face legal repercussions for his actions. No matter what he does, he won’t have to answer for his misdeeds.",
">\n\nWrap it up boys! We gottem this time! \nThis is it! He’s done for!\n…phew.. it’s been a wild ride, right? \nFinally. It’s all over. \nWoooo accountability!! No one is above the law!! Dems have spines!! The DOJ has balls!! Woooo!!!\nI’m buying a big ass bag of covfefe and throwing it up in the air. Open the champagne!!\nWe finally gottem.",
">\n\nRent free",
">\n\nAnd nothing will ever happen so why bother reporting it",
">\n\nbecause if we talk about it maybe one day the American public will wake up and do something.\nWe could fix all these issues in a week if everyday people finally decided that enough was enough. \nI'd agree with you that nothing will happen anytime soon, and maybe never.\nAt least people won't be able to say they didn't see it coming when the decades of corruption finally collapses the empire.",
">\n\nThe only thing that gives me a sliver of hope is that Trump continues to post about his “perfect phone call” to Georgia about finding more votes.\nMaybe that means his lawyers are getting wind of something to come? I Doubt it but maybe there’s a slim chance",
">\n\nJust like the FBI lied, Fauci lied, Hillary lied, like that ?",
">\n\nPeople can be wrong and it not be a lie. They can answer a question, recieve new information, change their answer and it still not be a lie.\nLying is not when someone says something you don't like or disagree with, no matter how hard you shout it.",
">\n\nNo lying is telling non truths, in place of factual proof",
">\n\nGood he can share a jail cell with Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci.",
">\n\nIt is obviously a witch hunt.",
">\n\nHe’s not, and everyone knows it",
">\n\nOh we've surely got him this time!",
">\n\nCan he appeal on the grounds of an ineffective console? Or no?",
">\n\nIve had one of those a few rimes now. Two PS3s, an Xbox, Wii... no one cares.",
">\n\nRed Ring of Death."
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Can't shoot what you don't have. | [
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""With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves," the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.
Oh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now... | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have."
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I give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative. | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now..."
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We do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment... | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative."
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We're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?
Yeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure. | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment..."
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We're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?
I mean, we had a caning prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, so... | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment...",
">\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\nYeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure."
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I just had a sick thought.
Instead of complaining about this, how about have every member in the Democratic party in Congress come in openly carrying, go to their seat, and place the weapon directly in front of them on their desk.
Then look up and smile. | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment...",
">\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\nYeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure.",
">\n\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\n\nI mean, we had a caning prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, so..."
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I mean...if the fascists are armed, the rest of us should be too. | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment...",
">\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\nYeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure.",
">\n\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\n\nI mean, we had a caning prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, so...",
">\n\nI just had a sick thought. \nInstead of complaining about this, how about have every member in the Democratic party in Congress come in openly carrying, go to their seat, and place the weapon directly in front of them on their desk. \nThen look up and smile."
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This is alarming for multiple reasons. | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment...",
">\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\nYeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure.",
">\n\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\n\nI mean, we had a caning prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, so...",
">\n\nI just had a sick thought. \nInstead of complaining about this, how about have every member in the Democratic party in Congress come in openly carrying, go to their seat, and place the weapon directly in front of them on their desk. \nThen look up and smile.",
">\n\nI mean...if the fascists are armed, the rest of us should be too."
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Spelling error,, treason, fixed it for you. ;) | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment...",
">\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\nYeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure.",
">\n\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\n\nI mean, we had a caning prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, so...",
">\n\nI just had a sick thought. \nInstead of complaining about this, how about have every member in the Democratic party in Congress come in openly carrying, go to their seat, and place the weapon directly in front of them on their desk. \nThen look up and smile.",
">\n\nI mean...if the fascists are armed, the rest of us should be too.",
">\n\nThis is alarming for multiple reasons."
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This will end well | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment...",
">\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\nYeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure.",
">\n\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\n\nI mean, we had a caning prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, so...",
">\n\nI just had a sick thought. \nInstead of complaining about this, how about have every member in the Democratic party in Congress come in openly carrying, go to their seat, and place the weapon directly in front of them on their desk. \nThen look up and smile.",
">\n\nI mean...if the fascists are armed, the rest of us should be too.",
">\n\nThis is alarming for multiple reasons.",
">\n\nSpelling error,, treason, fixed it for you. ;)"
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There's absolutely no way this could ever go wrong, right? /s | [
"Hope they don't accidentally shoot themselves in the dick",
">\n\nCan't shoot what you don't have.",
">\n\n\n\"\"With threats against members of Congress at an all time high, now is not the time to be stripping members of our constitutional right to defend ourselves,\" the Colorado Republican (Boebert) said, before recounting several incidents of violence in the Capitol and against lawmakers over the years.\n\nOh it's sad the irony just washes over the stupidity of this piece of trash misplaced trampstamp that unfortunately has her hands on the rudder right now...",
">\n\nI give her a year before she shoots a Democratic representative.",
">\n\nWe do appear to be getting perilously close to another Brooks v. Sumner moment...",
">\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\nYeah, we totally are. We are too stupid to endure.",
">\n\n\nWe're eventually going to have shoot-outs in Congress, aren't we? Like, actual sitting members firing at one another?\n\nI mean, we had a caning prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, so...",
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They asking for it | [
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Give Santos a gun when he has nothing else to lose! He seems super stable! | [
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One of his aliases should be able pass a background check | [
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Who the fuck goes unarmed into a room full of Jan 6ers? The Democrats should be in body armor with their M16s at ready position. | [
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">\n\nThey asking for it",
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So we are going back to the days of beating congressmen on the floor with a cane then. | [
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">\n\nOne of his aliases should be able pass a background check",
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"Let them fight." | [
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">\n\nThere's absolutely no way this could ever go wrong, right? /s",
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">\n\nIt mightve saved some underage girls from a creep you're right.",
">\n\nYeah I was gonna say we would all be that much better off",
">\n\nReally doing the work of the people...sigh.",
">\n\nThey asking for it",
">\n\nGive Santos a gun when he has nothing else to lose! He seems super stable!",
">\n\nOne of his aliases should be able pass a background check",
">\n\nWho the fuck goes unarmed into a room full of Jan 6ers? The Democrats should be in body armor with their M16s at ready position.",
">\n\nSo we are going back to the days of beating congressmen on the floor with a cane then."
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">\n\nIt mightve saved some underage girls from a creep you're right.",
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">\n\nSo we are going back to the days of beating congressmen on the floor with a cane then.",
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This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 64%. (I'm a bot)
The European Union police agency Europol said those arrested are alleged members of a betting syndicate where "Several footballers are suspected of having used their position to steer the outcome of games in which they participated in."
The arrests were made in a joint operation by Europol, Interpol and Spanish police.
Europol said the arrests were made in November in several Spanish provinces and followed 21 arrests of members of the same organization in 2021.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: arrests^#1 Europol^#2 bets^#3 matches^#4 authorities^#5 | [] |
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This comes as a complete and total shock to no one. | [
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We will be shocked when they declare no corruption.
But that declaration will probably be corrupt. | [
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">\n\nThis comes as a complete and total shock to no one.",
">\n\nWe will be shocked when they declare no corruption.\nBut that declaration will probably be corrupt."
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A true patriot. Tries to leave the country the moment he gets upset. | [] |
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He has been in the USA since december 30. He left Brazil 2 days before his term was up on a diplomatic visa. that visa expired and so he is applying to a new one in order to stay in the USA | [
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Next he will apply to join mar a lago | [
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">\n\nHe has been in the USA since december 30. He left Brazil 2 days before his term was up on a diplomatic visa. that visa expired and so he is applying to a new one in order to stay in the USA"
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He's probably already there, hangin out with former Cheeto in Chief and Steve Bannon. | [
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">\n\nNext he will apply to join mar a lago"
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