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"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!"
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"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?"
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Such a dumb deflection | [
"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com."
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Can people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue.
The twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media. | [
"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection"
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“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao | [
"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media."
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about as cringe as ''the pee tapes'' | [
"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media.",
">\n\n“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao"
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Tell me, if anything of relevance was actually on that laptop (of which we dont even know whose it is) that would somehow seriously implicate potus Biden, that Giuliani would keep that laptop in his possession for over a year without contacting any law enforcement agency you know, before the election took place? | [
"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media.",
">\n\n“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao",
">\n\nabout as cringe as ''the pee tapes''"
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I think it was to keep the erections taking place | [
"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media.",
">\n\n“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao",
">\n\nabout as cringe as ''the pee tapes''",
">\n\nTell me, if anything of relevance was actually on that laptop (of which we dont even know whose it is) that would somehow seriously implicate potus Biden, that Giuliani would keep that laptop in his possession for over a year without contacting any law enforcement agency you know, before the election took place?"
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"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media.",
">\n\n“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao",
">\n\nabout as cringe as ''the pee tapes''",
">\n\nTell me, if anything of relevance was actually on that laptop (of which we dont even know whose it is) that would somehow seriously implicate potus Biden, that Giuliani would keep that laptop in his possession for over a year without contacting any law enforcement agency you know, before the election took place?",
">\n\nI think it was to keep the erections taking place"
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"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media.",
">\n\n“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao",
">\n\nabout as cringe as ''the pee tapes''",
">\n\nTell me, if anything of relevance was actually on that laptop (of which we dont even know whose it is) that would somehow seriously implicate potus Biden, that Giuliani would keep that laptop in his possession for over a year without contacting any law enforcement agency you know, before the election took place?",
">\n\nI think it was to keep the erections taking place",
">\n\nIf there was a Donald Trump Jr. laptop with similar content, it would be all that r/politics talked about."
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"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media.",
">\n\n“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao",
">\n\nabout as cringe as ''the pee tapes''",
">\n\nTell me, if anything of relevance was actually on that laptop (of which we dont even know whose it is) that would somehow seriously implicate potus Biden, that Giuliani would keep that laptop in his possession for over a year without contacting any law enforcement agency you know, before the election took place?",
">\n\nI think it was to keep the erections taking place",
">\n\nIf there was a Donald Trump Jr. laptop with similar content, it would be all that r/politics talked about.",
">\n\nWe have naked pictures of Trumps wife....Nobody cares."
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"Just about every rightwing sub on reddit proves this headline true.",
">\n\n“I have PROOF that Hunter Biden cheated on a math test in high school! Finally we can impeach the president!”",
">\n\n“He wrote the answers on his erect penis. The proof is on his laptop!”",
">\n\n\"Where'd you hear that?\"\n\"Do yOuR OwN ReSeArCh\"",
">\n\n“gO lOoK aT yOuR oWn DiCkPiCs!!1!”",
">\n\nThat headline 😂",
">\n\nAnd the tag line: \"See a doctor if your state of laptop arousal lasts longer than two years.\"",
">\n\nthey do call it a hard drive",
">\n\nFor Republicans - it's 3 1/2 inch floppy.",
">\n\nLet's be honest, it's a microdisk",
">\n\nA defective one.",
">\n\nWith a virus",
">\n\nNever would think a bunch of decrepit men would put so much effort into trying to find pictures of penises",
">\n\nYou're not familiar with republicans?\nMaybe Matt Schlapp can help you out",
">\n\nMaybe Matt can help you Schlapp it out",
">\n\nDoes the GOP really expect the American people to swallow this big load of nothing spewing from their members?",
">\n\nNot all of them, just enough to scam more money from stupid people.",
">\n\nThe one's that do, really have a firm grip on this.",
">\n\nThe whole thing has their full attention. They have committees working night and day with the problem in hand. We all know they're not doing anything but putting forth a little lip service though.",
">\n\ndamn you.. take your upvote and never do it again!",
">\n\nI can't stop now, and the House won't either, and that'll be a problem for all of us. By the end, we're all going to feel worn out with full on Hunters dick fatigue. Because for the next two years, it's all we'll be hearing about. Whenever a Republican opens their mouth, you know \"Hunter Bidens dick\" is going to fall out of it. What worries me though is that the GOP may have prematurely came to a couple conclusions about the whole thing and really made a mess of it, and we the people will be left to mop up after they've finished.",
">\n\nI bet they still have copies of Anthony Wiener on their PCs.",
">\n\nBro.\nIt's Carlos. \nCarlos Danger. \n😐\n🤌🕶️\n😎",
">\n\nhad to look that one up\n\ntumescence too͞-mĕs′əns, tyoo͞-noun \n\nA swelling or enlarging.\nA swollen condition.\nA swollen part or organ.\n\nI think its a synonym for \"erection\" in this context. :)",
">\n\nMy man over here never saw 10 Things I Hate About You and it shows 😂",
">\n\nIt was a bratwurst.",
">\n\nWhatever it was, keep it in your pouch 😂",
">\n\nSo what if Hunter Biden holds a press conference and says, \"Yes I had a laptop and on that laptop were pictures of my penis. Pics of my penis on my laptop existed. Thank you\"\nSo then Republicans will move to impeach Biden with a slam dunk case? I think. Politics are so confusing anymore.",
">\n\nThen they would use it as \"proof\" that all the child pornography they claimed and even photoshopped him into was real. \nBecause when no one cared about his dick pics, and no one cared about the pics of him (a known addict) smoking crack, that was where they went. The rumor mill started the old familiar pizzagate ~~chestnut~~ walnut about how it actually contained childporn and videos of him banging Obama's daughter. \nThe laptop is a catch all for every bullshit accusation made up by idiots online and spread by Facebook grandpas. \"Oh, so the laptop is real, you say, then obviously all that other made up bullshit about it is real too.\"",
">\n\nEven urologists don't think about penises as much as the Republican party does.",
">\n\nWhatever the Biden’s do, Trump did worse and he got a pass on everything from Republicans, so what is the big deal?",
">\n\nThat's exactly it. \nDid Hunter Biden get jobs because of his last name? Probably. \nDoes Clarence Thomas refuse to recuse himself from cases involving his wife? Yes. \nDid Ivanka Trump get a bunch of Chinese trademarks, while working in the White House and a federal employee? Absolutely. \nDid the Presidents company, which he still owned while in office, make deals in foreign countries? Yep. \nDid the President charge the federal government an exorbitant rate for his secret Service detail to stay at his properties? Yes again. \nHeck, Trump and his 3 oldest kids defrauded a charity, and are barred from being on the board of any charity. Nevermind, him and them all got jobs because of who their dad was. \nSo, yeah, Hunter is a little shady. Like a 2 on a 1 to 100. Meanwhile, MAGA nation defends the Trump family who are all in the 90s.",
">\n\nThe fact that Ivanka and Jared kushner were literally senior members of the White House administration without background checks tells you all you need to know about how they feel on document classification and data privacy standards\nYes they are hypocritical. We know that and need to ignore them and their bad faith arguments as much as possible.",
">\n\nOh, they had background checks. Kushners was fucking denied initially due to the results and trump bypassed it.",
">\n\nYeah, it was a big deal at the time. As it should be.",
">\n\nThey’re jealous because dude is hung",
">\n\nThis is what I think too lmao.\nGuys got a big dick.",
">\n\nLol \"Tumescence\". Now there's a word I haven't seen since I was 16 and flipping through my mother's romance novel collection.",
">\n\nWhen he gets subpoenaed, I hope he stands up, drops trou, and tells the committee to take a picture.",
">\n\nI guarantee Gym Jordan will demand to see it.",
">\n\nHunter Biden might be a hot mess, but he did lose his mom and sister in an awful car accident as a little kid, then watched his war veteran brother die horribly from a brain tumor. I know Biden is a public person, but I really wish these monsters would leave this poor family alone.",
">\n\nwhy didn't they care about the former first lady's nudie pics?\n/s",
">\n\nNo /s needed\nI could have gone my whole life without saying that I've seen that and yet they voted that family in regardless of their purported attempt to have family values\nFucking insane how low they brought the presidency",
">\n\nProjection at its finest. \n\nCommittee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by, and to the benefit of, members of the president’s family. These include conspiracy or defrauding the united states, wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protections Act, tax evasion, money laundering, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. The Biden Family’s business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.\n\nReplace Republicans with Democrats, and Biden with Trump.",
">\n\nFor the curious. The dick pic in question.",
">\n\nClownshow",
">\n\nSome care in politics about elections, the others want a big R instead.",
">\n\nAll the staff at businessinsider gnashing their teeth at the absolute home-run garbage headline.",
">\n\nYawn, republicans are desperate and want to distract people from reversing abortion rights and “George San Diego”.",
">\n\nAny plans for governing and tackling issues that affect the country? No, we’re going to focus on the President’s son’s dick pics and a laptop that proves Joe Biden was POTUS from 2016 till now oh and we’re doing tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy. That pretty much sums up GOP politics.",
">\n\nLol. They are absolutely worthless.",
">\n\nFor anyone else who had to look up \"tumescence\":\nthe quality or state of being tumescent. especially : readiness for sexual activity marked especially by vascular congestion of the sex organs.\nCool new word for me!",
">\n\nIn their defense I hear it’s spectacular. Just top notch D, who isn’t excited to see that beautiful monster in all its veiny glory?",
">\n\nAnd crickets on the criminal Trump children",
">\n\nHunter could rake in millions with an onlyfans account right now.",
">\n\ni've never really seen a group of guys worked up over a penis.",
">\n\nThis is all distracting nonsense enveloped in bad-faith arguments BUT…\nWhen the pics do come out I hope hunter has a massive knob. Again, not that it should matter but I just hope it’s just a 5th limb because for whatever insane reason that would bother a bunch of conservatives",
">\n\nThey have been on the internet since 2020. You can find them if you really care. Other posts I have read say it's a 5th limb.\nI think what they care about is that president Biden somehow abused his power to get them taken off Twitter? But revenge porn has always been against twitters TOS.",
">\n\nOk didn’t know they actually made it out thought it was stopped before that point. Thanks.\nSo again a bad faith argument in pretending it was an abuse of power by Biden\nEdit: also trump and Biden should have a hog-off because Biden being bigger would give trump a heart attack",
">\n\nGood grief, what a perfect example of \"trash\" media.",
">\n\nFirst it was all just Russian disinformation.\nThen it was unverified no chain of custody with probably a lot of fake content.\nNow were at it's definitely real, definitely his, but this controversy is all about dick pics, nothing more.\nI wonder where we'll finally wind up.",
">\n\nCrickets. We'll finally wind up with crickets.",
">\n\nI think we started with crickets. Many people saying that's all they heard. We've moved on from that.",
">\n\nIt's still crickets. There's no evidence of a crime, so nobody gives a fuck (Unless you're a right wing loon)",
">\n\nThat's not what many people are saying! Many many people, dozens!",
">\n\nWhile the investigation is clearly pointless, it doesn't really help anything to constantly describe it as them being upset over the dick picks. They are upset that Twitter went against their own policies and procedures to block stories about Hunter Biden that included more than just \"dick pics\". There's also good evidence that Twitter's policies specifically benefitted Democrats more than Republicans. \nIs a private company not following its own rules something Congress should investigate? No, not unless someone actually in government used some kind of force to make this happen, and Matt Taibbi's reporting on it was clear that there's no evidence of that. Twitter is protected by the First Amendment to use whatever moderation tools they want. \nSo, yeah this inquiry is just nonsense to try to make Biden look bad. But portraying it as these guys having a boner for Hunter dick pics is terrible journalism that pointlessly fuels division.",
">\n\n“There’s also good evidence that Twitter’s policies specifically benefited democrats more than republicans.”\nSuch as? We have only seen the requests made by democrats. We know the trump administration also made requests, but none of those requests have been made public. The only thing the Twitter files show, are normal communications from concerned parties requesting Twitter adhere to their policies regarding malicious content.",
">\n\nThere was reporting on how Twitter handled the banning or suppressing posts by more right-wing users. \nI'll take back \"good evidence\". That was too strong of a phrase. More like \"some indications\". \nI just wouldn't find this surprising. In the end, these moderation decisions are being made by people, and it seems reasonable to believe those people are more liberal than conservative. They have no major reason to be perfectly unbiased, so I'd assume moderation came down heavier on right-wing stuff than left-wing. \nI also don't see any of that as some major problem either. Its a private company. With its current leadership, I'd now assume that the balance has switched around, or massively cut back. \nAnyway, my main concern was presenting this as if it was about dick pics, which was never something anyone really cared about. What they did actually care about was also nothing, but journalists should at least present it that way.",
">\n\nBecause, of course, they are.",
">\n\n\"Give us the hog!!!\"",
">\n\nIs there really a \"dick\" pic out there of Hunter Biden? I see a lot of reference to it but haven't yet read where someone actually saw it. And, I might add, I live in a bubble, lol.",
">\n\nYes, a few.",
">\n\n\"Find out why every Republican is extremely excited about these hunter Biden dick pics (some representatives are calling him in private)\"",
">\n\nI think they are jealous that Hunter Biden has such a big dick.",
">\n\n\"My dick is approaching gigantic proportions and I have had many partners that said so. \" George Santos. / Probably",
">\n\nI will never read a batter headline that isn’t coming from the Onion.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the big D",
">\n\nThis comment section represents everything good with Reddit",
">\n\nRemember when “dick” was a bad word?",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how obsessed grown men are over a man’s dick. The dude is packing heat, and they’re foaming at the mouth over it",
">\n\nTumescence? That word is bigger than their hard ons!",
">\n\nI bet Boebert and Cawthorn would love to see it!",
">\n\nExcellent headline lol.",
">\n\nThis has to be one of the GOAT headlines on this sub.",
">\n\nBiden is our first 'boring' president in decades and they're not used to it. They're scrambling for something, anything they can use against him but nothing is sticking and it's hilarious.",
">\n\nRepublicans are obsessed with the entire country seeing Hunter's Dong. They are just having a hard time figuring out how to convince people its politically relevant.\nThats why their message went from \"OMG, Hunters dong!\" to \"Why are companies trying to keep Hunter's dong from us?\"",
">\n\nAy oh! I'm all tumescent ova'ere!!",
">\n\nI mean, GOP sure loves Hunters cock",
">\n\nActual video of the headline writer working on this title",
">\n\n\"It's not the heat, it's the tumidity.\" -- Aristophanes",
">\n\nAlas! The Republicans have found it! The artifact that explains everything wrong...from Covid to inflation..................weee dingies....the Republicans have found it!\nA picture of Hunter Biden's penis on his laptop. Stop the presses! Headline news.\nSend the picture to the FBI and announce indictments!\nSee, I told you they'd solve inflation!\nRight Repubs?",
">\n\nIt's not a toomah!",
">\n\nRepublican projection has never been stronger. If you clip out all context / names from what Comer said I would have guessed he was talking about Trump. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. \nWe're truly living in a dark comedy.",
">\n\nIt’s a massive dong, too.",
">\n\nThe GOP are just a bunch of D-Hunters when it comes to Hunters -D",
">\n\nHunter's dick is woke.",
">\n\nSo they all wanted Hunter Biden dick picks public. Aren't these the homophobic ilk? Hmmmm..",
">\n\nMore like \"Thick Pics\", amirite?\nAm I right? I really don't know.",
">\n\nMade them realize the implications of owning guns and big trucks are 100% correct, so OBVIOUSLY they need to spend millions of dollars on investigations.\nDuh.",
">\n\nSounds like 'lots of theories, but no proof' from over here.",
">\n\nI have to deal with one of them regularly. He can't stop talking about gay folk, transgenders, and black folk. I keep asking him why he spends so much time thinking about other guys dicks, and he never answers, just walks away.",
">\n\nGood thing I didn't elect Hunter Biden nor was he ever appointed to any position of power in the united states government.",
">\n\nThat headline\nmy heart can't take such beauty",
">\n\nSomeone watched that episode of the Wire",
">\n\nGlad it gets them so excited.",
">\n\nThe logical endgame for Republicans is one 73-year-old billionaire stroking out while screaming \"LIBERAL!\" at his mirror.",
">\n\nHow big is Hunter’s junk? Rep. Comer will certainly get a handle on it.",
">\n\nSo umm, where are these pics? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\nHas any of the information ever been independently verified as belonging to Hunter Biden. I know Mike Lindell and Steve Bannon have asserted this, but would not exactly call either of them a credible source.",
">\n\nWell there you have it, irrefutable proof that merely removing Trump wasn't going to get the stupid out of politics: only the symptom was treated",
">\n\nWhat’s tumescene? (No I didn’t mean time scene, spell check)",
">\n\nNot sure what Tumescence means, but I'm going to guess \"jacking off furiously\" just from the context. Republicans are doing something to a dickpick. They're tumescensing.",
">\n\nMeanwhile George Santos to head the committee on Hunter Biden's dick. Let there be no vein unturned, lest it all be done in vain.",
">\n\nJust as the founders intended I’m sure!",
">\n\nSo this is the smoking (hot) penis then?",
">\n\nPlease, no more thesaurus dot com.",
">\n\nSuch a dumb deflection",
">\n\nCan people stop acting like its about the dick pics? No republican has ever said, insinuated or even remotely came close to saying this is the issue. \nThe twitter files showed enough things to atleast raise some eyebrows about the connection between the whitehouse and social media.",
">\n\n“The Twitter files” sounds so cringe lmao",
">\n\nabout as cringe as ''the pee tapes''",
">\n\nTell me, if anything of relevance was actually on that laptop (of which we dont even know whose it is) that would somehow seriously implicate potus Biden, that Giuliani would keep that laptop in his possession for over a year without contacting any law enforcement agency you know, before the election took place?",
">\n\nI think it was to keep the erections taking place",
">\n\nIf there was a Donald Trump Jr. laptop with similar content, it would be all that r/politics talked about.",
">\n\nWe have naked pictures of Trumps wife....Nobody cares.",
">\n\nSo he embarrassed the FBI with his big dick? Ah ha, that’s why the FBI told all media not to Per-sue the story. Boy they’re sensitive"
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
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I never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other... | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?"
] |
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You think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other..."
] |
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Yeah, I always took it a murder, too.
I still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.
Same era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, "What do you want on your Tombstone?"
Spoken in a gravely, menacing voice.
The 80s and 90s were a trip! | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear."
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>
Try cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.
It’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!"
] |
>
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)
A Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.
According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.
China claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5 | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza."
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Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged.
It was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5"
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Maintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs."
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I completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line "Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose" I mean wtf? | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up."
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That's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from "Nazi gold" to Zapp Brannigan quotes. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?"
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It’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes."
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I could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people."
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Weren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday? | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help."
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Some times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.
Maybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?"
] |
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I really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated."
] |
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If you have no standards for who you do business with
They're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK! | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion."
] |
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Lol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.
That their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.
But since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah? | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!"
] |
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Lol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake
Ah yes, sure
and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.
Like how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is "democratic" because it has "Democratic" in its name? | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?"
] |
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Point is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?"
] |
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I'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned."
] |
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Swiss "neutrality" | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently."
] |
>
Easy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you.
Switzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\""
] |
>
And mountains. It’s geography helps a ton. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again."
] |
>
Missiles don’t care about mountains. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton."
] |
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Maybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.
You can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.
Sure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.
But what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?
A bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?
Switzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of "military deterrence".
It is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.
And we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains."
] |
>
The best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.
Few countries are entirely self sufficient. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap."
] |
>
Nobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.
While media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.
I bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient."
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100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China.
This article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system."
] |
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Swiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye."
] |
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I was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money"
] |
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Can the Swiss be more shitty these days?
They keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?
WTF is wrong with them? | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country."
] |
>
If only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?"
] |
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Honestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones"
] |
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I guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs
But it could be Angry Swiss people
I would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.
The "Americans are idiots and know nothing" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section."
] |
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It isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.
It's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.
Obviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing). | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it."
] |
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Yeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing)."
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Unfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one."
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You misspelled diploma$$y.
Or... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy."
] |
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Fun fact for everyone going on about politics:
These were devices USED, not the actual weapons.
They were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.
This COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.
This has nothing to do with the swiss state. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear."
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This has nothing to do with the swiss state.
Just like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state."
] |
>
"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged.
Despite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. " pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state"
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Swiss "neutrality" in a nutshell | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets"
] |
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What the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?
Shitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.) | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell"
] |
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Swiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power.
Its like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)"
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Switzerland once again fucking up | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers."
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What a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up"
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I am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article."
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Never heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss."
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Heard recently that "Swiss chocolate" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick."
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bad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good."
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They won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country."
] |
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You know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie?
Welcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them! | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce."
] |
>
The Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!"
] |
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A lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term "No Gold, No Swiss"
A descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years."
] |
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Hahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard."
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Swiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland"
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You guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a "sensitive system that could be exploited" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2."
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Too late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing."
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Those last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically"
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Yeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research."
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Fake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.
If anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.
Leica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.
It is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.
Edit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger."
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Reddit hivemind at it again...
Read the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...
This is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...
And since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract... | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan."
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To piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.
From the TFA:
“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”
So a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract..."
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There are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D
Sure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior."
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I am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find "like minded communities".
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group."
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Sure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though."
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Oh, the Swiss suck so bad. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor."
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But won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️ | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad."
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"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them."
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️"
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We should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland"
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is."
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold."
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Neutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though.
Switzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality"
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That's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.
Regardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with."
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Read the article. You are barking at the alternative reality. | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials."
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switzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality."
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality.",
">\n\nswitzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately"
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality.",
">\n\nswitzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately",
">\n\n'Blunder'"
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality.",
">\n\nswitzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately",
">\n\n'Blunder'",
">\n\n“That’s a paddlin’”"
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality.",
">\n\nswitzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately",
">\n\n'Blunder'",
">\n\n“That’s a paddlin’”",
">\n\nOuch"
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality.",
">\n\nswitzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately",
">\n\n'Blunder'",
">\n\n“That’s a paddlin’”",
">\n\nOuch",
">\n\nWhat a boner!"
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Literacy is only the first step | [
"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality.",
">\n\nswitzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately",
">\n\n'Blunder'",
">\n\n“That’s a paddlin’”",
">\n\nOuch",
">\n\nWhat a boner!",
">\n\nWest Taiwan is an easy mistake"
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"Someone mixed up \"Republic of China\" and \"People's Republic of China\" on the shipping form.",
">\n\nI was living in Seoul.\nMy mother wanted to send me a package.\nShe had it addressed to South Korea.\nThe podunk postmaster in my podunk hometown tells her: I'm pretty sure Seoul is in North Korea...",
">\n\nI went to the post office with a letter to South Africa and gave it to the postmaster not knowing how much the stamp was worth.\nPostmaster; \"South Africa ? Can you be more specific ?\"",
">\n\nI once received some salsa from New York City",
">\n\nNEW YORK CITY!?\nGet the rope",
">\n\nCasually joking about hanging people to sell Salsa.\nI wonder how well that old commercial would fly these days?",
">\n\nI never interpreted it as a hanging because the characters were cowboys. I always thought they were going to lasso or hogtie not murder. But it never really said one way or the other...",
">\n\nYou think cowboys didn't lynch people? I remember the murder in the voice of the guy who uttered the line. The intent was clear.",
">\n\nYeah, I always took it a murder, too.\nI still think of the commercial 50% of the time I cruise down the salsa aisle.\nSame era, Tombstone brand frozen pizza's marketing tag line was, \"What do you want on your Tombstone?\" \nSpoken in a gravely, menacing voice. \nThe 80s and 90s were a trip!",
">\n\nTry cooking a tombstone on a pizza stone sometime. Defrost it first.\nIt’s shocking how much that elevates a cheap pizza.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nA Swiss company has alarmed Taiwanese citizens by sending devices used to operate Taiwan's anti-ship missiles to China for repairs.\nAccording to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People's Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan's national security at risk.\nChina claims Taiwan is a rogue province and should be brought back under communist control, while Taiwan maintains that the Chinese Communist Party, which took control of China in 1949, is not a legitimate government.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Taiwan^#1 China^#2 National^#3 Taiwanese^#4 Technology^#5",
">\n\nThankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nIt was a fucking commercial equipment that is installed in the systems that got wrongfully shipped. You guys really are fearmongering, ffs.",
">\n\nMaintaining the integrity of your supply chain is really important for military contracts. Leica messed up.",
">\n\nI completely agree with you, but dudes are saying things of the line \"Switzerland gave weapons secrets to China on purpose\" I mean wtf?",
">\n\nThat's just the regular reddit hivemind. The word Switzerland triggers a variety of reactions ranging from \"Nazi gold\" to Zapp Brannigan quotes.",
">\n\nIt’s weird how people complain about Russian bots or Chinese bots or US Air Force bots. But the actual bots are those who type that neutrality quote every single time, without fail, whenever Switzerland is mentioned. I honestly cannot believe those are real people.",
">\n\nI could do the quote from The Third Man and someone else could reply and point out that it was inaccurate, if it'd help.",
">\n\nWeren't they blocking Spain from giving weapons to Ukraine yesterday?",
">\n\nSome times it is very difficult not to be fed up with Switzerland’s ‘neutrality’.\nMaybe neighbour countries should declare that Switzerland is not an ally so if anyone wants transit to the Swiss border it can be negotiated.",
">\n\nI really don’t consider Switzerland a good country. If you have no standards for who you do business with it reflects on who you are. A cowardly place in my opinion.",
">\n\n\nIf you have no standards for who you do business with\n\nThey're showing very clear standards though. Pro-west business? Barriers and barriers. Pro-China and Russia? A-OK!",
">\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake and you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\nThat their companies are allowed to officially develop military hardware for other non-neutral nations, and they do so for western-aligned powers, shows which way they skew.\nBut since they aren't giving full throated support for western interest in the latest war, now their neutrality is in question, yeah?",
">\n\n\nLol a Swiss company made a shipping mistake \n\nAh yes, sure\n\n\nand you're acting like the country's government has betrayed the west despite them being very clear they are neutral.\n\nLike how they were neutral but cooperated with Nazis back in ww2? Let me guess, you think Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is \"democratic\" because it has \"Democratic\" in its name?",
">\n\nPoint is, nobody gave a fuck about their whole neutrality schtick as long as it serves western interest, now it's a problem and they must be condemned.",
">\n\nI'm glad someone else noticed this and said it. Most of reddit didn't have a problem with neutrality until recently.",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\"",
">\n\nEasy to be “neutral” when you’re surrounded by European allies who won’t be neutral if someone targeted you. \nSwitzerland hiding behind their older brothers yet again.",
">\n\nAnd mountains. It’s geography helps a ton.",
">\n\nMissiles don’t care about mountains.",
">\n\nMaybe not, but every major road, every tunnel, every piece of infrastructure in Switzerland is rigged to blow.\nYou can send tens of thousands of infantrymen in to die to machine-guns positioned high up on mountain ranges, while your armor slowly tries to make their way through the valleys, constantly subjected to rocket attacks from the surrounding cliffsides.\nSure, any major country around Switzerland has the military capacity to invade and occupy the country.\nBut what would it cost? And what could they possibly gain?\nA bunch of near impassable mountains, a population, full of hatred and resistance to their occupiers?\nSwitzerland is far from the mightiest country in the world, their entire military strategy relies on the concept of \"military deterrence\".\nIt is far cheaper to try and negotiate with Switzerland, than to try and occupy it and conquer it.\nAnd we all know Capitalists love it when things are cheap.",
">\n\nThe best way to deal with Switzerland isn't to invade or kill them. But build a giant wall around them and wait.\nFew countries are entirely self sufficient.",
">\n\nNobody on reddit knows what a theodolite is.\nWhile media talk about weapon sent to China, it's not much different than, let's say, sending a GNSS (GPS) chip for repair to China. Such system can have many use, including military application.\nI bet the PRC factory didn't even realize it was part of a weapon system.",
">\n\n100% - hell, it the Taiwanese are practicing reasonable info sec hygiene, even Leica probably doesn’t realize that the optical component is being used in a missile system, which would explain why they weren’t attuned to the geopolitical sensitivity of send it for repairs in China. \nThis article is dumb and poorly written, but is really just a little business gossip about a local company screwing up..::BUT: if starts getting any traction as “news”, I’m going to start throwing some serious side eye.",
">\n\nSwiss is everyones bitch as long as you have the money",
">\n\nI was in Zurich for a quick work trip. Didn't have any Francs on me, stopped in a pizza place, credit card didn't work, but it's ok, they were happy to take euro or dollars for a small fee. Seems to be indicative of the whole country.",
">\n\nCan the Swiss be more shitty these days?\nThey keep blocking arms deliveries to Ukraine and now they help China too?\nWTF is wrong with them?",
">\n\nIf only the Swiss didn’t block Gepard munition deliveries. Ukraine could do with more ammunition for the Gepards to shoot down those shitty Iranian drones",
">\n\nHonestly without the /s I’d have thought you to be one of the angry Swiss guys on this comment section.",
">\n\nI guess many people missed that, because Im getting a lot of hate in DMs\nBut it could be Angry Swiss people\nI would think the link to an article providing the previous instance of Swiss blocking transfer of ammo and arms would have been enough to show I was being sarcastic and critical of the Swiss Government.\nThe \"Americans are idiots and know nothing\" was a response to a Swiss individual saying this is fake news and of course Americans believe it.",
">\n\nIt isn't the Swiss government blocking those shipments. But a law initiated, voted upon, and implemented by the people, years ago. Long before Ukraine happened.\nIt's a well meaning left wing law, that was meant to block Swiss military industry from profiting off wars and conflicts. It has little to noting to do with neutrality, but everything to do with the Swiss left wing parties trying to curb capitalism in times of war.\nObviously, this well meant law backfired completely. As no exceptions were build into that law. Parliament is actively trying to repair that. But, in the mean time, the Swiss government can't do anything else but respect the law (and if you know anything about the Germans, the Swiss and the Austrians, is that they love following rules and regulations. The Nordics are like that too. It's basically a Germanic thing).",
">\n\nYeah, “blunder.” Wonder how much money changed hands for that one.",
">\n\nUnfortunately a lot of people running western governments wouldn’t want to poke Switzerland in the eye… but of course only for high minded reasons of diplomacy.",
">\n\nYou misspelled diploma$$y.\nOr... diplom€cy maybe? Unclear.",
">\n\nFun fact for everyone going on about politics:\nThese were devices USED, not the actual weapons.\nThey were sent to a company with its headquarters in Switzerland, owned by a Swedish company, split off from a German company.\nThis COMPANY sent the devices to China, probably to a factory they own.\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.",
">\n\n\nThis has nothing to do with the swiss state.\n\nJust like the majority of articles posted here about Switzerland, they're about Swiss companies, not the state",
">\n\n\"Thankfully, Taiwan’s top military research body - National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology - said that they do not believe any data breach has occurred. Tests by the military also found that the technology was not damaged. \nDespite this, Taiwan has asked Lecia Geosystems to change its procedure for repairs in the future. The National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology has also stated that it is considering implementing new measures to make sure that sensitive equipment is not sent to China, for national security reasons. \" pretty sure theodolites just measure the angle of the rockets",
">\n\nSwiss \"neutrality\" in a nutshell",
">\n\nWhat the fuck does military neutrality has to do with a private company???? Or wtf does that military neutrality has to do with private banks?\nShitty banks and incompetent companies don't need military neutrality to exist (Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JP Morgan, Enron, Facebook, etc. etc.)",
">\n\nSwiss banking is a defining aspect of Switzerlands' soft power. \nIts like not getting involved in a fist fight but selling brass knuckles to one of the brawlers.",
">\n\nSwitzerland once again fucking up",
">\n\nWhat a shock to see that most commenters clearly didn’t read the article.",
">\n\nI am guessing some are paid shills to discredit Swiss.",
">\n\nNever heard a positive thing about Switzerland. Their branding is wearing off quick.",
">\n\nHeard recently that \"Swiss chocolate\" actually is the among the lowest quality chocolate out there, but it's somehow stuck in people's minds that it's good.",
">\n\nbad argument. countries in south america usually export the better quality goods and keep the worse ones for their own country.",
">\n\nThey won't let Spain send arms containing Swiss technology to Ukraine but they screwed over the Taiwanese. Swiss neutrality is a farce.",
">\n\nYou know how you can't fathom how Trumpians believe complete bullshit that is obviously a lie? \nWelcome to being on the same level. You obviously didn't read the article, have no idea what this is about, and have no interest in actually learning anything. But you came to some completely fictional conclusions about the situation and feel very strongly about them!",
">\n\nThe Swiss, profiting off the misery of the world for over 100 years.",
">\n\nA lot longer than that. Since the 14th century, Switzerland was famous for trained mercenary armies that fought for various European kingdoms. Hence the term \"No Gold, No Swiss\"\nA descendent of the Swiss Mercenary army is the Vatican's Pontifical Swiss Guard.",
">\n\nHahahahaha good old Neutral Switzerland",
">\n\nSwiss neutrality has never been less respectable since WW2.",
">\n\nYou guys havent even read the article, and dont even seem to care to read it. Leica is a well-known manufacturer of Theodolites and topography/scanning equipment, which is the only thing that got sent to China by mistake. Thing is, Leica sells Theodolites to well, everyone, China included, since this is equipment regularly used by the Construction and Topography/Geodesy fields. No breach of ifnormation happened when it got there because thats all that is, a theodolite. It wasnt a \"sensitive system that could be exploited\" that was sent to China guys. And the news website does a very good job at rattling up everybody for a simple logistics thing.",
">\n\nToo late, apparently hating Switzerland is the new favorite thing to do on Reddit. Probably the sane mentality people have when they hate anyone who doesn't 100% agree either them politically",
">\n\nThose last few days have been a great showing of the hivemind effect, and the fact that your average reddit user is actually a brainwashed moron who can literally not understand things that aren't purely black or purely white, combined with an inevitable inability to read more than 180 characters and do research.",
">\n\nYeah I hope that most of them are just teenagers, I know thay black and white thinking can be very dangerous and also bad for your mental health. I know cause I used to do it a lot when I was younger.",
">\n\nFake news. This is not a missile component, but a device used on a ground for various measurements. Leica sells them on open market to civilians for reasonable prices, they sell thousends of them all around the world each year, I just saw one few days ago on a street. There are other manufacturers, but Leica is one of the best.\nIf anybody is to blame, is the Taiwan military not removing data in the internal memory before sending for repairs.\nLeica probably wasn't even informated that a device is used in a sensitive / classified environment, and treated it just like hundreds of others devices they service non stop.\nIt is like I would send my mechanical pencil to repair in my local shop, and they would send it to China, and then I would complain that it might leak sensitive information of what I wrote with a said pencil. Silly.\nEdit: military did in fact remove internal memory before sending it to repair. So non-story, with exception of possibly implanting compromised software or chips, but again that is on Taiwan.",
">\n\nReddit hivemind at it again...\nRead the article, it's not long. A commercially available product was bought by the Taiwanese. Some of them needed repair. So they were sent to Switzerland. The Swiss company repairs (and probably manufactures) these parts in China. So they were sent there. Noone is talking about a breach of contract... So I'd assume there was no clause in the sales contract about not shipping these to China or treating them with special care.If you're in the defense business it's on you to protect your secrets. If you need to work with a private entity you background check them and you make the security requirements part of the contract...\nThis is simply a private company doing its business. Why would you expect them to handle Taiwanese repairs differently? If you want special treatment from a business, you make it part of your contract with said business...\nAnd since so many here are harking on Switzerland about preventing export of military goods to Ukraine: That's because Switzerland has a law about not exporting arms into war zones. And if you buy Swiss arms you contractually agree to not circumvent it, by exporting it to a war zone after you purchased it. The countries buying Swiss armes knew about the clause, agreed to it and now blame Switzerland for enforcing the contract...",
">\n\nTo piggy back off you: These comments are so low effort and nearly identical it is hard to take them seriously as genuine typed out comments by an actual person. Either bot or bot like behavior. If they actually are unique individuals typing these garbage level comments then shame on them and their stupidity.\nFrom the TFA:\n“Taiwan sent an unspecified number of these theodolites to the head office of Leica Geosystems in St. Gallen for repairs. However, when the components were returned to Taiwan, it became clear that the device was shipped from Shandong province in China - not Switzerland. According to Taiwanese media, the repair process in China could have given the People’s Republic access to sensitive data from missile tests, which could put Taiwan’s national security at risk.”\nSo a private firm, not government of Switzerland, sent parts to China for repairs. The repaired parts were then sent to Taiwan from China. Is that a security weakpoint easily taken advantage of? Yes, but it’s not the entire government of Switzerland. Very strange comments and behavior.",
">\n\nThere are many great qualities about reddit, and some great communities. But the average user is not too different in his behaviour to any other social media user. They just go with the flow. It's especially funny when the flow in a thread changes over time. You'll first have everyone saying A, then when it turns out that's wrong everyone will say B and pretend they can't imagine how anyone would ever say A:D \nSure there are some bots too, but I'm pretty confident most of it is just from uninformed people wanting to be part of a perceived group.",
">\n\nI am not sure if the average reddit user is similar or actually way below other social media users tbh. The difference being that most users of other social media palteforms tend to start on it with real connections (you have real life friends on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter...) whereas reddit is built for people that are isolated in their tastes and want to find \"like minded communities\".\nSo I feel the sheep/hivemind behavior may be even stronger on reddit. But those are just based on thoughts, have no research available for that. I'd be curious to read about it though.",
">\n\nSure seems like a lot of accidents break in China's favor.",
">\n\nOh, the Swiss suck so bad.",
">\n\nBut won't let Germany give Ukraine ammo for Gepard 🤷♂️",
">\n\n\"Oh, we're so sorry. To make up for it, here's some Nazi gold we hid for them.\"\n-Switzerland",
">\n\nWe should now refer to it as concentration camp gold, cause that’s what it is.",
">\n\nI’m happy with genocide gold or holocaust gold.",
">\n\nfuck Switzerland neutrality, all my homies hate Switzerland neutrality",
">\n\nNeutrality in itself is not bad. Building a nations wealth with gold from holocaust victims, shutting borders with racist politics and housing some of the most unethical blood sucking companies in the world is bad though. \nSwitzerland is a disgraceful country getting away with a lot which other countries would never get away with.",
">\n\nThat's a pretty egregious break in chain of custody. I'd say there's no way China would be this blunt in their approach but operational subtlety has not been their strength as of late.\nRegardless of function, I wouldn't trust any of those parts for more than the aggregate value of their raw materials.",
">\n\nRead the article. You are barking at the alternative reality.",
">\n\nswitzerland is not doing so well on the pr department lately",
">\n\n'Blunder'",
">\n\n“That’s a paddlin’”",
">\n\nOuch",
">\n\nWhat a boner!",
">\n\nWest Taiwan is an easy mistake",
">\n\nLiteracy is only the first step"
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