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[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol..." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”" ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”", ">\n\nPractice religious or faith based medicine then if you do not understand or abide with clinical standards of CVS." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”", ">\n\nPractice religious or faith based medicine then if you do not understand or abide with clinical standards of CVS.", ">\n\nreligious people are so fucking exhausting." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”", ">\n\nPractice religious or faith based medicine then if you do not understand or abide with clinical standards of CVS.", ">\n\nreligious people are so fucking exhausting.", ">\n\nBirth control was medication for me when I had endometriosis and adenomyosis. If you refuse to provide care and medication to a patient, you should probably have some kind of licensing strike against you. Revocation of license. You do not belong in medicine if you refuse to practice medicine." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”", ">\n\nPractice religious or faith based medicine then if you do not understand or abide with clinical standards of CVS.", ">\n\nreligious people are so fucking exhausting.", ">\n\nBirth control was medication for me when I had endometriosis and adenomyosis. If you refuse to provide care and medication to a patient, you should probably have some kind of licensing strike against you. Revocation of license. You do not belong in medicine if you refuse to practice medicine.", ">\n\nThis religious exemption stuff has gone too far." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”", ">\n\nPractice religious or faith based medicine then if you do not understand or abide with clinical standards of CVS.", ">\n\nreligious people are so fucking exhausting.", ">\n\nBirth control was medication for me when I had endometriosis and adenomyosis. If you refuse to provide care and medication to a patient, you should probably have some kind of licensing strike against you. Revocation of license. You do not belong in medicine if you refuse to practice medicine.", ">\n\nThis religious exemption stuff has gone too far.", ">\n\nHer license should be revoked." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”", ">\n\nPractice religious or faith based medicine then if you do not understand or abide with clinical standards of CVS.", ">\n\nreligious people are so fucking exhausting.", ">\n\nBirth control was medication for me when I had endometriosis and adenomyosis. If you refuse to provide care and medication to a patient, you should probably have some kind of licensing strike against you. Revocation of license. You do not belong in medicine if you refuse to practice medicine.", ">\n\nThis religious exemption stuff has gone too far.", ">\n\nHer license should be revoked.", ">\n\nIf it's against your religious beliefs to take birth control then don't take birth control. If your religion is anti-abortion then don't get one. If your religion is anti-gay marriage then don't get gay married.\nNo one forces Christians to do the things they misinterpreted the bible over - why are they so obsessed with controlling people? \nStop trying to force other people to live by your religious view points. That's it, that's the Ted Talk." ]

[ "The patients don't come in looking for a spiritual advisor. They want healthcare professionals.", ">\n\nAnd refusing to fill a valid prescription is completely unprofessional.", ">\n\nYeah you can ask for reasonable accommodations for your religious beliefs in the workplace, but if it means you're unable to do your job entirely good luck with the lawsuit.", ">\n\nExactly. To give a personal example, I'm Jewish and observe Shabbat and various holidays. During this time, I won't do any work. However, for my job, I'm supposed to be on call 24/7. So I've worked out a system where I turn over my on call duties to someone else for this time and switch them back after Shabbat/the holiday ends. If this is during working days, I use my PTO to take the day off. My employer knows this and has worked to accommodate me.\nWith this accommodation, I can still do my job while observing my religion. But refusing to do a basic job duty because \"my religion tells me not to\" doesn't call for accommodations. It means you should probably get another job.", ">\n\nIf I were a patient and a CVS nurse refused to give me birth control, I would sue CVS", ">\n\nTheyre going to lose if it's one of the ones I'm thinking of.\nThey're supposed to just say \"I'll get someone else to help you\"\nBut what a lot of them was doing was saying \"CVS won't/can't fill that, you need to leave\".\nTwo very, very different things.", ">\n\n“I can’t do that, it’s against my religion” vs “You can’t do that, it’s against my religion”. Pretty cut and dry.", ">\n\nWhich is exactly what's wrong with religious fanatics. Narcissistic and delusional.", ">\n\nAnd that is one reason why younger generations are turning away from religion more and more.", ">\n\nExcept those that seem to have it seem to be more zealous. My wife has several young nurses that came out of the woodwork as anti-vax/allTheDamnThings since covid started. \nI, unfortunately, don't think this is a problem that will ever go away, we'll just see face-lifts.", ">\n\nA nurse that refuses to give vaccinations should be fired. \nPeriod", ">\n\nImagine working in a grocery store and refusing to sell non halal meat to people.", ">\n\nThe courts would tell you to get fucked.", ">\n\nAs they should.\nIf it's against your religion, feel free to work elsewhere.", ">\n\nIf you can’t do your job because of your religious beliefs you shouldn’t be doing the job. \nImagine a Jehovas Witness Phlebotomist who just refuses to draw blood. Or a Muslim cashier who refuses to sell pork. \nThese are choices that people make which make them unable to fulfil the duties of the job. If your religion doesn’t permit you to prescribe legal and necessary medications, find another job.", ">\n\npretty sure the Muslim cashier one has been in the news a couple times over the past decade.", ">\n\nYep, Costco got sued, not because they fired the cashier but because they moved him to shopping cart duty. They guy lost though because they didn't reduce his pay or hours.", ">\n\nThat's almost a textbook case of religious accommodation. And the guy still sues!", ">\n\nActual real life lawyer here. Unfortunately that's the problem with the legal landscape and the overly litigious nature of this country. I wouldn't be shocked if it was the guy's intention the entire time, get the job then request religious exemptions, only to then sue and hope the company just settles instead of actually fighting it. \nThere are too many cases where businesses just bend over backwards to accommodate people or try to avoid any amount of bad press or expense in fighting a frivolous complaint they just settle them out even if they would easily win the case on the merits. The overly cautious nature of companies is only empowering these jackasses to do this stuff.", ">\n\nPretty sure there is a King of the Hill episode where Dale deliberately tries to this same thing but with a Hooters and gender discrimination.", ">\n\nI mean Hooters DID get sued for gender discrimination in the past, but ultimately they won.", ">\n\nSpeaking of Hooters being sued.. it reminded me of that story where a Hooters waitress sued the company because they ran a contest for the waitresses to win a new “Toyota.” \nThe waitress that sold the most appetizers and beer (and other upselling items) in a 1 month period would win a new Toyota. \nThis Hooters girl absolutely busted her azz to win this contest. Working extra shifts and overtime and working like crazy to get her customers to spend more money so she could win. \nThen the day came to officially announce the winner. She won!! She was crying tears of joy. This was a life changing thing for her. \nThey manager told her to come the next day at so and so time for the photo shoot and accept her prize. \nShe showed up excited AF. A bunch of people were there anxiously awaiting the unveiling of her prize. \nThen after a bunch of hype, the manager unveils her “new toy yoda” doll. Everybody laughed at her and the super clever joke. \nNeedless to say she was p!ssed TF off and hired a lawyer and sued Hooters. \nHooters ended up settling out of court for an undisclosed amount. When the media asked the lawyer how much money she got, he simply responded “let’s just say she can buy any Toyota she wants now..” Lol", ">\n\nI just wonder how nobody thought that would be received poorly. \n\"Trust me, bro. She won't care about working her fingers to the bone for nothing when she sees this cute pun I stole from my mother in law's Facebook page.\"", ">\n\nNever underestimate the stupidity of managers.", ">\n\nI've asked Christians who support this how they'd feel about a vegan getting a job in a restaurant or supermarket and then refusing to sell meat, and framing it in religious terms. Or a Hindu, with beef specifically. I've found that they don't support this freedom of conscience or religion in a general sense, just with those things that are hobby-horses of conservative Christians specifically.", ">\n\n“They shouldn’t take that job, then.”\n“So, like the lady in the pharmacy?”\n“No, that’s different! She’s trying to help people!”", ">\n\nPersonally, they should have to prove it even violates their religious beliefs. Birth control is used for a lot of women to avoid getting cancer because they don’t have regular periods. The Bible is both for and against almost everything and has been mistranslated constantly from its original text.\nThere is no mention of modern birth control in the Bible. In fact, I think the most commonly referred to pieces of evidence people use to say it opposes birth control are in Genesis. So… we are following the Old Testament rules? \nThe whole thing is nonsensical.", ">\n\nThere’s also the erroneous belief that contraceptives are abortifacients.", ">\n\nBut an NP is supposed to know better than that.", ">\n\nGosh, I have some startling news for you…..\nEdit: just so we’re clear, I’m criticising that particular NP who was pushing their own particular political views.\nMost nurses are fantastic and valued people.", ">\n\nSome startling news for you: I work with NPs. I know how they’re trained. And I can absolutely promise you this is covered in their education. \nThis is another example of someone choosing their belief over actual science. \nNP should lose her license. End of story.", ">\n\nReddit likes to shit on nurses, but you can find examples of dumbasses in any medical job. When I worked in pharmacy, nurses were often the ones fighting for their patients, particularly in hospitals.", ">\n\nThere are MDs that do this shit all the time too, MDs that don't believe in evolution, MDs that wouldn't take as much out in a breast reduction because they personally think they know better than the patient on how big they want their breasts, etc etc. There are dumb people in every single job and in every field.", ">\n\nAnd they should lose their license too. It’s not that Reddit is hard on nurses or doctors, it’s the nature of the job. Like police, if you fuck up people can die. Lives are literally on the line for nurses and doctors, as well as quality of life and a million other things. The job is too important to not do it well or correctly. \nBesides it’s common sense. If your job interferes with your beliefs you should be doing that job, or change your beliefs.", ">\n\nIf you're not going to do the job then don'twork there. CVS is pretty blatant with what they prescribe; that NP knew it going in and she still took the job. This is on her.", ">\n\nUnless she took the job specifically to start a fight.", ">\n\nStep 1: Take job that you know will violate your \"religious beliefs\"\nStep 2: Refuse to do job and get fired\nStep 3: Sue job for wrongful termination \nStep 4: Profit!", ">\n\nMy friend had a sales rep at his last company that did something similar. He was an alcoholic. Basically, he would be piss drunk by 12 everyday and show up for calls with customers hammered. He would get warnings within a few months, then laid off, then sue for wrongful termination because he has a \"disease\". I'm by no means shaming a legitimate condition, but the dude wasn't trying to get help and had done this 5+ times in 10 years.", ">\n\nI never understand what peoples' religious beliefs have to do with other people. Like, you don't believe in birth control, good for you; but other people do. It's not like you're taking the medication so what's it to you if someone else wants it?", ">\n\nThis is the exact reason why so many Christians I know have this fear of atheists. They assume that because they are very forceful about shoving their beliefs on others that atheists are going to try to force atheism on them in the same way.\nWhich from my experience as an atheist and most atheists I know, we don't care what you believe in as long as you don't try to push it on us.", ">\n\nAlso the fact that they believe Atheists have no moral compass without God. “What’s to stop you from committing murder or rape without religion to tell you not to?” Idk I just think those are fucked up things to do. Don’t need a sky daddy to tell me so", ">\n\nI rape the exact number of people that I want. And that number is zero.", ">\n\nWeird, my religion requires an hour break for every 5 minutes worked.", ">\n\nWhich religion? I’m suddenly feeling it is time to connect with my spiritual self", ">\n\nMeow-rmon\n(That's the best cat pun religion I can come up with.)", ">\n\nTell me more man!", ">\n\nWe spend 5 minutes working, then take an hour nap.\nWe set alarm for our daily 3:30 AM prayer, which is really just loud, incoherent screaming.\nAnd if anyone touches your belly, you must scratch the shit out of the aggressor.", ">\n\nFuck this nurse. If you can't do your job without your personal beliefs getting in the way, you should NOT have that job.", ">\n\nI mean, isn’t medicine in general going against her beliefs maybe? Isn’t she meddling in gods will, and god’s letting her do it…for some reason", ">\n\nFortunately she practices nursing, not medicine, so no cognitive dissonance", ">\n\nThis shit is getting out of hand. Being a member of a religion does not entitle you do or not do whatever you want.", ">\n\nYou obviously haven't met many fundamentalist evangelicals.", ">\n\nThis is not a fundamentalist problem. Until Christians who don’t considering themselves fundamentalist start standing up against this shit, they’re all in the same camp and are all part of the problem.", ">\n\nEx-Employee Control Freak Using Religion To Disguise Their Bullying Sues CVS.\nThat's the real headline.", ">\n\nAny religion you follow that requires other people to obey the rules you chose?\nIs fucking insane.", ">\n\nShe didn’t want to do a fundamental part of her job, and got fired for it. Sucks to suck.", ">\n\nBefore you judge, thinking there isn't anything specific about this in the Bible, don't forget Matthew 17:1 'And he said unto them, thou shalt not prescribe birth control, even though it is thy job.'", ">\n\nThat is selective reading of the bible. In Luke 6:9 it says, \"And which one was a better neighbor? He who accepted a job at odds with his faith or he who did not refuse care to another?\"", ">\n\nAh, but consider Joshua 3:7 \"takes one to know one.\"", ">\n\nBut what about Matthew 7:2\n“And the beggar cried ‘Lord, why has thou forsaken me in my time of need!’\nAnd the lord did reply:\n‘Fuck you thats why.’”", ">\n\nWhat about Paul's 2nd letter to the Corinthians when he retorted that \"the one who smelt it dealt it\"?", ">\n\nLiterally suing her old job because they wouldn't let her discriminate against a customer.\nI'm sure she is hollering that she is the one that is being discriminated against though.", ">\n\nPeople like her typically holler about persecution.", ">\n\nSubpoena her patient calls and see just how 'accomodating' she was.\nI'll bet you my next paycheck that she was a complete a#%hole to them. For Jesus.", ">\n\n\nSubpoena her patient calls\n\nOh god please no. The day a frivolous civil suit starts pulling innocent people's confidential prescription calls is the day we've all lost", ">\n\nFrom the article:\n\nTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act...states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship\"\n\nOnly having one pharmacist on duty, and calling in another one just to do a single prescription is definitely undue hardship, not to mention forcing customers to drive to another CVS because homegirl feels the need to force her beliefs on everyone else.\nHope she gets destroyed in court.", ">\n\nIf your religion prohibits you from doing certain things, then don't take a job that requires you to do those things. \nSimple.", ">\n\nIf you cannot perform all duties of the job, you should not take the job so you don't enforce your religious beliefs on others. Plain and simple. These religious nutjobs need to start taking up jobs they don't have issues performing.", ">\n\nCan you imagine all the Jehovah's Witnesses working for Walmart or other stores refusing to ring up a customer buying christmas decorations, or christmas trees?", ">\n\nWhat’s crazy is even in the JWs, it would still come down to how fanatical they are. Most normal ass JWs would still ring them out. They give talks about certain things like that too. They’ll essentially say “we’re no part of the world but we acknowledge that we need money to live” and leave it up to the person’s conscience whether or not they wanna risk their job. \nI could see a JW pharmacist not checking out Plan B or something though, thinking it’s an abortion pill (which a pharmacist really ought to know better but I’ve seen this from a non-JW at Walgreens when I worked there). \nOh, and Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t even weird at all about birth control. They actually encourage it since they’re of course against abortion. These psychos are literally more insane than the actual cult I was raised in lol.", ">\n\n\"It's against your religion to prescribe me my doctor's prescribed BCs? Well, it's against my religion to not hop over this counter and slap you around something silly if you don't give me what the fuck I came here for, especially since without it I could bleed to death, you self-righteous piece of shit!\"", ">\n\nThis. Before I started BC I ended up in the hospital needing a blood transfusion from a period. One that regularly had me bleeding heavily for weeks at a time. I would lose my mind if some piece of shit denied me it because their piece of shit sky daddy told them to.", ">\n\nIt's not even the sky daddy saying it though ... these self-important idjuts just make up shit to suit personal agendas.", ">\n\nExactly there is NOTHING in the bible about birth control. There is also nothing in the bible saying life begins at conception. It does, however, state that a woman's life is worth more than the \"fruit of her womb\".", ">\n\nIt actually reads that life begins at first breath, but they don't like to hear that", ">\n\nIn my experience, these types of religious fanatics and cultists are the worst examples society has to offer when it comes to humanity.", ">\n\nBullshit, she is forcing her religious beliefs on people seeking healthcare. It's bigotry and discrimination and it has to fucking stop.", ">\n\nHaha! I hope she loses that suit", ">\n\nMaybe don’t become a nurse practitioner then?", ">\n\nWhy do you need money if you believe in heaven?", ">\n\nTo make sure you can get into the good section.\nYou know, away from \"those\" people.", ">\n\nHow much do I need to get into the part of heaven that doesn't allow christians?", ">\n\nDon't worry - the fundamentalist ones aren't getting in...", ">\n\nNurse swore the hypocritic oath instead.", ">\n\nGod damn am I getting sick of religious zealots in this country. If you don’t want to do all parts of nursing, doctoring, or pharmaceuticals, go work somewhere else. \nIf I flat out refused to do half my job, I’d be gone tomorrow.", ">\n\nI remember when I first started working in HC and someone asked about what to do if we had religious objections. “Find a different place to work” was the response and something like “You wouldn’t refuse care for someone having a stroke over religious objections; we provide medical care not sermons.”", ">\n\nFuck her religious beliefs", ">\n\nThe judge needs to ask her to point out which part of the Bible prevents her from doing her job.\nMy guess: she won't be able to.", ">\n\nReligion is never a reason to not do the job you're hired to do, go elsewhere if you can't do your job.", ">\n\nCan I refuse to do work at work because of my religious beliefs? And if they fire me, I can sue because of discrimination? I'll come to the office, but my religious beliefs require me to watch YouTube uninterrupted from 9 to 5.", ">\n\nMy religious beliefs state that I should receive a paycheck even if I don’t work", ">\n\nHear ye, hear ye!", ">\n\nDear Christians;\nHow about you open your own pharmacy if you have a problem with people not living like you do?", ">\n\nNo do not encourage them. Christians already own and operate way too many hospitals in this country and they can and have refused reproductive healthcare options that might endanger a fetus.", ">\n\nHyped to find a job then announce I'm religiously against any form of labor. Sorry not sorry, I only work for the G-Man upstairs.", ">\n\nGet a job at a slaughterhouse and then say that you're Vegan and can't participate.", ">\n\nFrankly? Fuck you and your beliefs. I don’t give a shit what you do in the privacy of your own life, but what we aren’t gonna do is attempt to force those beliefs on other people. Get that fucking shit out of here.", ">\n\nIf your religion precludes essential parts of the job you should seek out employment that doesn't violate your religion", ">\n\nBigoted professional refused to do their job. Hope they pull the nursing certification/licence .", ">\n\nYour religious beliefs applies only to you, not everyone else ya fucking idiot", ">\n\nWhy the absolute fuck would these goddamn religious asshats want to be in the medical field, where you’re expected to help PEOPLE & not just the ones you like if you’re a bigoted zealot who hates the people you’d be working with in the fucking first place?!?! \nCan’t you just work at a police station like the rest of the narrow-minded segregationist fucks who are driven by hate far more than any kind of empathy for mankind as a whole?", ">\n\nA lawsuit that will be instantly dismissed on the grounds that she willfully harmed CVS customers by inserting her beliefs. Same thing happened to Kim Davis, she lost too. If your religion prohibits you from serving everyone equally, then you shouldn't be working there. End of story.", ">\n\nWell. She’s going to lose. As she should.", ">\n\nI’m not so sure. If it goes to SCOTUS they have been siding pretty heavily with religious people and their right to subject their views on others.", ">\n\nindeed. Conservatives don't believe in separation of Church and State. freedom of religion only applies to right wing extremist Christian sects", ">\n\nConservatives believe in separation of church and state for every religion except Christianity. Ask them if bringing God back into schools means a Quran in every classroom, and watch how fast they backpedal.", ">\n\nGood. She wasn't practicing nursing she was practicing Christo-facism.", ">\n\nThats like refusing to prescribe metformin or insulin to a diabetic patient because they're overweight and it's \"their fault.\"\nNurse practitioners have Master's degrees at least. She knew exactly what the job expected of her when she was hired. We have enough problems with access to medical care without bringing our fringe, unscientific, batshit idiotic beliefs to work with us.\nI work in Healthcare and I know that if you can't separate your personal feelings from your duty and moral obligation to care, you shouldn't be pretending to be a medical professional.", ">\n\nDon't go into medicine if your personal beliefs will affect the patient. \nDo no harm.", ">\n\nSorry asshole, you don't do your job you get fired. It's super neat that we can just force religious beliefs on other people, I'm just waiting to hear \"religious fanatic stoned a woman to death because she was getting a pregnancy test and he didn't see a wedding ring. He was home in time for dinner.\"", ">\n\nThe only true freedom OF religion is freedom FROM religion. \nFuck you, do your job", ">\n\nSue her church for making medical recommendations.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you have exactly two choices: get a new religion, or get a new job. \nNot doing your job and still expecting to have it is not an option.", ">\n\nSue away honey, unless there is a demonstrable medical reason you just failed to do your job, and frankly should lose your license.", ">\n\nUmm… part of your job if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job. Pretty simple concept here. They can always go get a job at a faith based pharmacy…", ">\n\nIf you have religious reasons for not offering meds guess what? you need a new career!", ">\n\nI do t give a fuck what your nasty flavor of bitter chrostianity or whatever cockamamy religion you are, but you're religion does not dictate ahit about others. Only you. If you can't do your job, step aside and piss off.", ">\n\nSo a Hindu person can accept a job as a line cook at a steakhouse, then refuse to cook beef, get fired, and then sue?\nShe’s a prescribing provider… could a provider refuse to order a blood transfusion for severe anemia or hemorrhage on the grounds that they are a Jehovah’s Witness?", ">\n\n\nAnd again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.\n\nSounds like losing some money is doing her a favor.", ">\n\nThis is as silly as a muslim working at a butcher refusing to serve pork.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs prevent you from providing appropriate care you shouldn't be a care provider.", ">\n\n“Find a different profession” if you give biased care.", ">\n\nIf your religion prevents you from doing a job - that’s not the career path for you.", ">\n\n100% this. Either find a job that doesn’t conflict with your beliefs or keep your personal beliefs to yourself and be professional. It’s not that hard.", ">\n\nSuing for discrimination because they want to discriminate.", ">\n\nWhat a dummy.\nThat's like saying you don't like or support guns, but you work at a gun shop.", ">\n\nIt is perfectly legal to discrimate against a protected class (race, religion, sex, etc….) if performance of the job requires it.\nIf the job requires you to sell alcohol, but you don’t want to…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires a model for make-up darker skin tones and you’re white…..you’re not qualified.\nIf the job requires you to fill prescriptions, but you’re religion states that Viagra is from the devil and only God can decide when a man can get an erection……you’re not qualified.\nIf you can’t perform the job because of your religion…..FIND ANOTHER JOB OR RELIGION!", ">\n\n\nShe said that for six and a half years, CVS granted her a religious accommodation to forego having to prescribe the drugs at the CVS MinuteClinic where she worked. When a customer needed the prescription, she would refer them to a colleague or another CVS MinuteClinic.\n\nI can see no one read the article. I think she's in the wrong, but she technically did exactly what everyone wanted her to do - she referred the patient to a colleague.\nI find this much more curious: \n\nBut in August 2021, CVS said it was revoking all religious accommodations.\n\nI would love to know how that decision came about, and what the lawyers' advice was about the inevitable clashes on religious grounds.", ">\n\nIf she can't let go of her personal beliefs in the moment to do her job as a medical professional, then she shouldn't be one.", ">\n\nBaptist Christianity does not and has never opposed the use of birth control. Google \"do baptists allow birth control\" for dozens of resources. This woman verbally equated contraceptives with abortificants to manufacture her objection, which they are not.", ">\n\n\"Sorry boss, but I can't do my job because of my deeply held religious beliefs. But I want you to keep me employed and pay me anyway.\"", ">\n\nFind a new line of work, Nurse!", ">\n\nShe got into the wrong profession then.", ">\n\nMy job is to talk to IT teams about software and security. Too bad I can’t talk to IT teams about software and security, it’s against my religious beliefs. I’ll sue you if you fire me though", ">\n\nThis shit is so stupid, if you want to claim religious beliefs for anything, you should consider there’s other religions whom are okay with it. So if we are to respect your beliefs, we must accept others too.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with your job duties....you should find another job.", ">\n\nIf your religion conflicts with meeting the minimum standards for providing care to patients, go fuck yourself and find another job.", ">\n\nthe board should review the NP's license\nit's ok to have a religious belief, but you can't force it on others as a nurse. pretty sure this goes against something the NP signed when getting their license", ">\n\nStop forcing your religion on other people and do the job you signed up for.", ">\n\nNo sympathy from me. Do your job or get fired. If there wasn’t a medical reason to not prescribe they didn’t do their job.", ">\n\nGet a new job if your personal beliefs prevent you from fulfilling essential duties", ">\n\nIf religious beliefs prevent you from doing the job, then you should expect not to have that job", ">\n\nHilarious that these \"businesses can do whatever they want\" people sue as soon as the business does something it wants.\nLike Tomi Lahren suing for wrongful termination when it came out she was pro-choice. Like... you fucking built this world, and now you're mad at it.", ">\n\nShe's in the wrong line of work.", ">\n\nA healthcare provider who allows their personal/religious beliefs to dictate their patient care is guilty of a major ethics violation and should be reported to the their state an national boards for disciplinary action. \nIf it is an evaluation/prescription/treatment/whatever that you as a provider are not able to do(for whatever reason), the it is your moral, ethical and professional obligation to refer the patient to a provider who can offer it to the patient.", ">\n\nReligious beliefs have no place in healthcare. If you can't separate the two then please just save everyone a headache and quit your job.", ">\n\nI have zero sympathy for someone asking to be paid for a job they're too ignorant/bigoted to actually do.", ">\n\nIf your religious beliefs forbid you from prescribing birth control maybe you shouldn't be a nurse who works at CVS.", ">\n\nWhy would you study in the field of science if your religiosity is contrary to that which science discovers?", ">\n\ntrying to practice their religion on other people.\nI am on a diet, therefore I choose to eat dounuts.\nvs\nI am on a diet, therefore, nobody may choose to eat doughnuts.", ">\n\nI hope that this case gets thrown out. Health care providers should not be allowed to deny care based on their discriminatory beliefs.", ">\n\nIf her \"religious beliefs\" prevent her from doing her job properly, then she should find another job. She shouldn't be forcing those beliefs onto everyone else. It's not CVS fault. \nLots of things violate my religious beliefs. I don't get to sue anyone or punish anyone over it.", ">\n\nJob is to fill prescriptions, not pass judgment on prescription being filled. Don’t like it, quit and open up a religious based pharmacy.", ">\n\nThey stay in your church and don’t be a fking nurse. Some People are just insane.", ">\n\nThey love to wield that persecution complex in everyone's faces. Reveling in their claim to special privileges.", ">\n\nFuck her... her license should be revoked for refusing to provide care to a patient without sufficient cause.", ">\n\nReligion is cancer to humanity.", ">\n\nIf you're religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job, you need to find a new job, or better yet a better religion.", ">\n\nMy religion says I don't have to do anything at work or even show up. Fire me and I will sue.", ">\n\nSo, prove to me it’s against your religion. Also prove to me that you live your life without violating any other tenets of your religion.", ">\n\nSounds like part of the job. Don’t take a job you aren’t willing to preform", ">\n\nI’m going to say this again. If a vegetarian waitress gets a job at Outback Steakhouse, they know that they will be fired for refusing to serve meat. This NP refused to do her job; she deserved the firing.\nThere’s nothing stopping the vegetarian waitress from getting a job somewhere they don’t serve meat, and nothing stopping the NP from getting a job that doesn’t involve birth control.", ">\n\nSex and babies are just the weirdest shit man.\nIf I was a Hindu or Jew or Muslim, and I take a job at a grocery store, and someone comes to my register and wants to buy beef or pork or beer respectively—can I deny selling them beef or pork or beer because of my religious beliefs?\nAbsolutely not. And nearly all people would agree.\nBut suddenly you have sex involved, and that’s somehow different than food?\nWhy can’t you have sex before marriage OR have sex without the goal of producing a child? Religious reasons.\nWhy can’t you consume beef or pork or any meat during Lent? Religious reasons.\nIn both situations, it’s religious reasons. If I don’t practice your religion, I am not bound by those rules or restrictions.\nAnd if you the religious person are uncomfortable, have someone else at the store ring up X item that offends you.\nBecause if you agreed to work at a store, and that store sells something that is against your beliefs—you need to work somewhere else. The store offers products, customers come to buy those products—you shouldn’t be able to refuse sale on behalf of the company that offers those products.\nIf it’s your store, do whatever the hell you want. I won’t shop there. But you can’t commandeer CVS or Kroger or whatever and force your beliefs onto a company’s customers nor the corporation.\nAND if you MUST protect all life—and force women to have children—you better give that women full financial support for each and every kid until they turn 18. Assistance with food, assistance diapers, free universal medical care, and free damn college.\nBut Republicans and Christians don’t give a shit about life. They don’t give a shit what happens to a baby after it’s born, when it goes to the hospital, or when that kid needs to go to college—you’re on your own. It’s bullshit.", ">\n\nShe can sue all she wants and when she loses, she can fuck right off with her nonsense.", ">\n\nfor once i am on the side of a company", ">\n\nThen she shouldn't be a nurse just like the crackpot anti vaccine nurses that work in hospitals around the country.", ">\n\nIf your religion doesn’t permit you to fulfill the duties of the job, you can’t have the job. It’s why you don’t see devout Muslims bartending.", ">\n\nIf she felt she couldn't prescribe birth control due to her religious beliefs then she should have done the right thing and quit working as a Nurse. Religious beliefs should have nothing to do with medical practices whatsoever, anyone who insists they should, shouldn't be allowed to practice as a medical practitioner, period.", ">\n\ni feel like this is gonna make it to the SC lol...", ">\n\nYour job requires you to do X, X is against your religion. Don't take the job. Jobs are allowed to make sure you can drive a certain class of vehicle, or lift a set amount of weight. If part of what you are expected to do requires you to violate your deep religious beliefs and you refuse to do it, then you're refusing to do your job and should be fired or preferably never hired to do it. Be like a Christian scientist surgeon who refuses to do surgery.... WTF", ">\n\nRegarding this policy- what if you live in the Deep South and there are no other employees willing to fill your prescription. These accommodations are ridiculous", ">\n\nYou know how nurses can't prescribe medications? How they're considered to not have the training and background to safely make those kinds of decisions for patients? Well the same thing about being able to overrule treatment from someone who is considered to have that authority. Can you imagine what a shit show healthcare would be if any rando up the chain could cease healthcare for a patient? It's be like if any rando up the chain of the criminal justice system could decline to investigate or prosecute a case.... Oh wait.", ">\n\nSo this NP took the job and then found out about birth control? I am all for religious freedom but if your beliefs and a job clash then don’t take the job. If you want to dictate what you will fill at a pharmacy then open your own pharmacy as your private business not go to an established one and try to make them conform to you.", ">\n\nYou can quit your job if your religion conflicts with it.", ">\n\nFuck that nurse. So sick of this religious shit being forced on other people. Society has no room for this shit", ">\n\nI don’t want to have your religious beliefs I want my own Beliefs, so shut up and do your job Glad you’re fired", ">\n\nFuck her. Straight up. Fuck her. What an arrogant fucking bitch.", ">\n\nShould of been practicing in a church instead of a medical facility if she wants to push her beliefs.", ">\n\nHonestly people like this should be banned from the medical field", ">\n\nI’m sick and tired of these religious zealots pushing their Evilgelican agenda on the public. No where in the Bible does it say ‘thou shall not use birth control’. Fucking nuts.", ">\n\nIf not hiring someone based on their religion is discrimination and therefore illegal, the person can’t be allowed to use their religion to avoid one of the jobs core requirements.", ">\n\nFuck it’s beginning \nIf you’re religious beliefs prevent you from doing your job you should not in any way be protected it means you are not qualified for the position \nFucking crazies thank god churches and religious affiliation is plummeting", ">\n\ndon’t fucking work there if you don’t want to do your job.", ">\n\nPfff.. religious nuts, go away please. \nYour rights stop where mine begin. \nIf you can't function with society because of your religion, you have no right being part of society. Go away. World is better with out the nutjobs.\nGuarantee like every religious nut, they just cherry pick which parts of their religion they want to follow.. hypocrites.", ">\n\nReligious, go home and love thy neighbor. Stay out of peoples' business if you can't handle it.", ">\n\nAnother bullshit suit to start another courtroom battle. This time over contraception. Didn’t Clarence Thomas mention in the Roe v. Wade reversal that we should be going after contraception as well? Sounds like an orchestrated set up to me.", ">\n\nNo. No. Fuck that. If you refuse to do your job, then you deserve to be goddamn fired. If your religion prevents you from fulfilling your job duties, then you need to find either a new religion or a new fucking career.", ">\n\nI’ve had multiple practitioners give me trouble about prescribing birth control. It’s like they want you to get pregnant. Like Im sorry I’m trying to get my education and a good job first 😂", ">\n\nBirth control should be available via vending machine.", ">\n\nDon’t take a job where the actual JOB includes things your religion doesn’t approve. Bam, problem solved. \nIf you want to work in healthcare, then be prepared to have to give actual healthcare, even if you don’t agree with it. Fuck these people.", ">\n\nWell a lawsuit like this was simply inevitable at this point. CVS did the right thing though", ">\n\nGood. Bitch shouldn’t be working there if she lets her asinine beliefs prevent her from dispensing care.", ">\n\nShe didn’t do the job she was hired to do. Maybe she should do a different job that doesn’t conflict with her beliefs.", ">\n\nSo she claims that CVS violated Civil Rights Act, which states employers cannot “avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship.”\nAnd what about the undue hardship suffered by the patient? Either have to wait for another practitioner or go to a different location? And wouldn’t shock me if they were billed for two visits, knowing the US healthcare system.\nThis NP absolutely caused hardship for both CVS and the general public. She wasted resources and provided inadequate patient care. CVS had better not settle this crap.", ">\n\nMedicine is a science. Which precedes religion. If you can't do your job then quit", ">\n\nHer religious beliefs being “I’m better than you and I can make your decisions for you.”", ">\n\nPractice religious or faith based medicine then if you do not understand or abide with clinical standards of CVS.", ">\n\nreligious people are so fucking exhausting.", ">\n\nBirth control was medication for me when I had endometriosis and adenomyosis. If you refuse to provide care and medication to a patient, you should probably have some kind of licensing strike against you. Revocation of license. You do not belong in medicine if you refuse to practice medicine.", ">\n\nThis religious exemption stuff has gone too far.", ">\n\nHer license should be revoked.", ">\n\nIf it's against your religious beliefs to take birth control then don't take birth control. If your religion is anti-abortion then don't get one. If your religion is anti-gay marriage then don't get gay married.\nNo one forces Christians to do the things they misinterpreted the bible over - why are they so obsessed with controlling people? \nStop trying to force other people to live by your religious view points. That's it, that's the Ted Talk.", ">\n\nThis is called a persecution fetish. These people seek this out and love the attention it gets them from other people who get off on pretending their persecuted.\nIf they want to see persecution have this woman go to Iran and try to convert people to Christianity. This is nothing but LARPing as a martyr." ]

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[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort.", ">\n\nSomehow they're still $2.10/dz here.\nMost of the food inflation in my area is beef and baked goods. Though I'm in the Midwest so Kroger probably uses eggs as a loss leader and recoups the cost in beer." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort.", ">\n\nSomehow they're still $2.10/dz here.\nMost of the food inflation in my area is beef and baked goods. Though I'm in the Midwest so Kroger probably uses eggs as a loss leader and recoups the cost in beer.", ">\n\nSame here. When walking through the center aisles, nothing catches my eye as having increased ridiculously with a few exceptions such as potato chips and cereal. The sides and end aisles are where the big increases have been here. Fresh meat, bread, eggs, ice cream, deli, and bakery. But not milk strangely. It’s been the same price of $1.39/half gallon for the past couple of years where I shop." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort.", ">\n\nSomehow they're still $2.10/dz here.\nMost of the food inflation in my area is beef and baked goods. Though I'm in the Midwest so Kroger probably uses eggs as a loss leader and recoups the cost in beer.", ">\n\nSame here. When walking through the center aisles, nothing catches my eye as having increased ridiculously with a few exceptions such as potato chips and cereal. The sides and end aisles are where the big increases have been here. Fresh meat, bread, eggs, ice cream, deli, and bakery. But not milk strangely. It’s been the same price of $1.39/half gallon for the past couple of years where I shop.", ">\n\n\"Eases\" what a manipulative word. Everything suddenly has a shortage. Then when it catches up the price stays high. It is a profit grab and we are going along with it." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort.", ">\n\nSomehow they're still $2.10/dz here.\nMost of the food inflation in my area is beef and baked goods. Though I'm in the Midwest so Kroger probably uses eggs as a loss leader and recoups the cost in beer.", ">\n\nSame here. When walking through the center aisles, nothing catches my eye as having increased ridiculously with a few exceptions such as potato chips and cereal. The sides and end aisles are where the big increases have been here. Fresh meat, bread, eggs, ice cream, deli, and bakery. But not milk strangely. It’s been the same price of $1.39/half gallon for the past couple of years where I shop.", ">\n\n\"Eases\" what a manipulative word. Everything suddenly has a shortage. Then when it catches up the price stays high. It is a profit grab and we are going along with it.", ">\n\nwhat would it look like to not go along with it?" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort.", ">\n\nSomehow they're still $2.10/dz here.\nMost of the food inflation in my area is beef and baked goods. Though I'm in the Midwest so Kroger probably uses eggs as a loss leader and recoups the cost in beer.", ">\n\nSame here. When walking through the center aisles, nothing catches my eye as having increased ridiculously with a few exceptions such as potato chips and cereal. The sides and end aisles are where the big increases have been here. Fresh meat, bread, eggs, ice cream, deli, and bakery. But not milk strangely. It’s been the same price of $1.39/half gallon for the past couple of years where I shop.", ">\n\n\"Eases\" what a manipulative word. Everything suddenly has a shortage. Then when it catches up the price stays high. It is a profit grab and we are going along with it.", ">\n\nwhat would it look like to not go along with it?", ">\n\nIn capitalism, there are competitors, boycotts, and the use of alternative sources of products. There is also strict budgeting and being mindful of where every dollar goes." ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort.", ">\n\nSomehow they're still $2.10/dz here.\nMost of the food inflation in my area is beef and baked goods. Though I'm in the Midwest so Kroger probably uses eggs as a loss leader and recoups the cost in beer.", ">\n\nSame here. When walking through the center aisles, nothing catches my eye as having increased ridiculously with a few exceptions such as potato chips and cereal. The sides and end aisles are where the big increases have been here. Fresh meat, bread, eggs, ice cream, deli, and bakery. But not milk strangely. It’s been the same price of $1.39/half gallon for the past couple of years where I shop.", ">\n\n\"Eases\" what a manipulative word. Everything suddenly has a shortage. Then when it catches up the price stays high. It is a profit grab and we are going along with it.", ">\n\nwhat would it look like to not go along with it?", ">\n\nIn capitalism, there are competitors, boycotts, and the use of alternative sources of products. There is also strict budgeting and being mindful of where every dollar goes.", ">\n\nGermany: Food +21%\nGas: +13%" ]

[ "We'll have to see how the Fed reacts.", ">\n\nI think this locks in a 25 bps increase. I doubt they'll do nothing and inflation cooling doesn't warrant 50 bps which is a little more aggressive.", ">\n\nIn all fairness, they may have slammed on the brakes too hard anyway. These things tend to have a delayed effect, from what I understand.\nEDIT: I get that downvoting is easier, but if I am mistaken about my statement, can someone point out what's wrong with it? I'm not an economist by any means, so I'd benefit from knowing my error.", ">\n\nI'm just mad that you spelled \"brakes\" wrong", ">\n\nYou're correct, that issue has been corrected.", ">\n\ninflation changes in the last year per cpi report:\nFuel oil: +41%\nGas utilities: +19.3%\nTransportation: +14.6%\nElectricity: +14.3%\nFood at home: +11.8%\nFood away from home: +8.3%\nShelter: +7.5%\nNew cars: +5.9%\nGas: -1.5%\nUsed cars: -8.8%", ">\n\n. . . How do those numbers end up at 6.5%??\nEdit: Some people have pointed out that the \"Commodities less food and energy commodities\" category which is not listed above is only up 2.1% over the last year, which is a big factor in lowering the final CPI value.\nEdit 2: I appreciate /u/thegreger linking the full table including weights for anyone that is interested in seeing the details.", ">\n\nWeighted average by total spending in each category, I presume.", ">\n\nAhhhh. Different neutrons same protons. \nGot ya", ">\n\nHow does that more niche explanation explain a more general situation for you? lol", ">\n\nReddit tends to attract people with \"specialized intelligence\", so to speak. The type of person who's incredibly intelligent in a particular area, but merely average (or worse) in other matters of smarts. That niche explanation simply maps on to their brain better. \nThis is also why the stereotype of a redditor is someone who defines themselves by how intelligent they are while still being of average intelligence.\nI'm digressing at this point, but the reason reddit attracts those types is because of how it's not actually a social media website, despite what the owners want you to think. Rather, it's a place where users go to discuss Things, rather than people — I don't care about the person who posted a 20 page lore theory on the Dark Souls 3 subreddit, I care about what it means for Dark Souls. It's really interesting seeing how all this stuff compares and contrasts with other websites IMO!", ">\n\nCan you post the source to this study of Reddit users please.", ">\n\n\"Pulled from the butt\"", ">\n\n…and everyone’s wages here kept pace with inflation, right? RIGHT?", ">\n\nMine did!\n...because I switched employers after my original employer gave a 1.5% increase.", ">\n\nThat's the only way to really get substantial wage increases. Job switchers usually earn more money than job stayers.", ">\n\nHow long do you think one should stay at a (new) job before switching?\nI’m gonna start doing that from now on.", ">\n\nAs often as you find better offers. Sure, switching jobs every year for 5 years might have your next potential employer being wary, but it’s not a real concern if you got a 20% raise each time you jumped ship.", ">\n\nAs someone who's interviewed candidates (software development), 5 years wouldn't scare me, but 3 or less might be cause for concern.", ">\n\nNobody who grocery shops believes this bullshit.", ">\n\nIf you watch the video, the report says\nShelter went up .8% in Dec vs up .6% in Nov\nFood went up .3% in Dec vs up .5% in Nov\nWhile gas went down 9.4% in Dec vs down 2% in Nov.\nGas is what made those numbers look good.", ">\n\nExcept in places that are still paying over $5 a gallon… like we are here in the poorest district of Hawaii, $5.19. The gas stations have been raking it in and refuse to lower prices.", ">\n\nBut were you paying 6 months ago?", ">\n\nSix months ago we were paying $5.89 gallon. They came down very slowly, stayed at $5.39 for several months now down to the $5.19. Costco is $4.49 but two hours away. All grocery prices continue to climb as do all other expenses…rent is through the roof and average home sales are hitting a million. The locals are leaving. The grocery stores in our area are still paying $10 an hour because they’re “exempted” from the new minimum wage here of $12 an hour. But hey, the tourists keep coming and we keep paying.", ">\n\nBased on the numbers you posted, you are experiencing the correct inflation %. $5.89 to $5.39 is a 10% drop. $5.39 to $5.19 is another 10% drop.\nI think your statement is more shocked at the overall price as a % of the income, which I personally think agreed with, but is different than inflation rates.\nWages and expenses are way out of line in a lot of parts of the US.", ">\n\nYes, you are correct in what I’m reacting to. But before all of this we had prices around the $4 mark which we’ll probably never see again. I mean other states had $5 gas prices and are at $3 now. \nOf course no one is working service jobs because of the low pay. An assistant manager of a local grocery store was gripping they couldn’t get anyone to work. I asked him if what the store was paying was enough to rent a room in a shared apartment and he snorted and said “of course not. “ he’s also the one who went to Walmart because they’re advertising $20 an hour. He went through the entire process to be told that they would start him at $12 hr. He asked what happened to $20 and they clapped him on the back and said that he absolutely would make $20 an hour after working full time for one year there. Of course they never give you full time. \nThis is just the most flagrant theft from the general population that I’ve ever witnessed and still it continues, with platitudes of, but inflation is down 2%. Whoop whoop. Rant over.", ">\n\nI agree 💯 with you.", ">\n\nToo bad corporate profits are still at record highs. The important part is we’ve lowered effective wages for individual workers", ">\n\nOver the past 24 months, lower income workers have increased their real income and has been one of the biggest real increases in years, while middle income workers have seen real income decrease.", ">\n\nIf that’s true for lower income workers that’s awesome. Truly. There are very few times this happens. I’m skeptical because the poverty trap in America is real not because I don’t believe you", ">\n\nI know it is true for the poorest of americans. They had the highest real income growth. I can try to find it, but I've heard it on several podcasts.", ">\n\nWhat you hear on podcast may not be true or they may be true but the real income growth being highest can still only be .01% of the white collar workers.", ">\n\nGas is the main reason numbers went down as an overall figure a bit. \nThat can change on a dime as pricing on that is volatile. \nStickier items like housing are still higher than even 6.5% (which is in itself high) and that should still be a major cause of concern.", ">\n\nThe inflation rate definitely feels worse than what they are reporting.", ">\n\nDifferent things have different inflation rates. They trt to get a sort of average of what average consumer pays but that may not match the percentages of goods and services you buy so for you it may be higher or lower. Also if you focus on on specific categories such as dairy, prices in dairy grew by 15% but if you focus on that you may be ignoring things which inflated less then the average or went down in price.", ">\n\nIt’s time to ask, would you consider 6-8 months of high inflation as transitory?\nThe past 6 months there has been .9% inflation or 1.8% annualized, so it seems like a fair question to ask considering how much people made fun of the FED for calling inflation transitory", ">\n\nEven the fed gave up on the \"transitory\" narrative a while back.\nHypothetically speaking I would call it transitory if it did only last 6-8 months but obviously that's not the world we live in.", ">\n\nSo it was high inflation for 6-8 months, but it is a year on year comparison. It won't go back down it just is not continuing to inflate.\nWhen these numbers are reported and you hear 6% inflation, that means 6 percent more than prices a year ago. But if you compare just to the last few months, there has been very low inflation.", ">\n\nInflation already has gone down. It's prices that won't go down.", ">\n\nPrices will likely not go down for most industries because those sweet sweet margins.", ">\n\nOddly cheese has gone down a bit where I am.\nMeijer brand cheese went from $2.50/8oz to $2.25/8oz \nStill not completely down, but it's something.\nGranted this might be a temporary price reduction for Superbowl season but still", ">\n\nYeah, and eggs are up to 5 bucks a dozen. Though that has more to do with avian flu. I don't see them coming back down to $1 a dozen ever. \nIf only I wasn't under an ordinance banning chicken farming of any sort.", ">\n\nSomehow they're still $2.10/dz here.\nMost of the food inflation in my area is beef and baked goods. Though I'm in the Midwest so Kroger probably uses eggs as a loss leader and recoups the cost in beer.", ">\n\nSame here. When walking through the center aisles, nothing catches my eye as having increased ridiculously with a few exceptions such as potato chips and cereal. The sides and end aisles are where the big increases have been here. Fresh meat, bread, eggs, ice cream, deli, and bakery. But not milk strangely. It’s been the same price of $1.39/half gallon for the past couple of years where I shop.", ">\n\n\"Eases\" what a manipulative word. Everything suddenly has a shortage. Then when it catches up the price stays high. It is a profit grab and we are going along with it.", ">\n\nwhat would it look like to not go along with it?", ">\n\nIn capitalism, there are competitors, boycotts, and the use of alternative sources of products. There is also strict budgeting and being mindful of where every dollar goes.", ">\n\nGermany: Food +21%\nGas: +13%", ">\n\nNot in my part of town" ]