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[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say..." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things.", ">\n\nBased republicans" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things.", ">\n\nBased republicans", ">\n\nOf course he wants to keep sending our money to fight foreign wars" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things.", ">\n\nBased republicans", ">\n\nOf course he wants to keep sending our money to fight foreign wars", ">\n\nI mean good starter idea by GOP. Just needs to be fine tuned and incoprorate expansive social safety net. Something that should be a bipartisan issue.\nNo expert with the economy. If such a reform occured now with inflation would it be a negative impact and would it be better to wait for something to pass down the road?\nI mean be great if Democrats reaponse was we are listening but few changes and additions. Such as keep the income tax. Simplify income tax. End marriage tax status. End tax withholdings and tax returns. Add a sales tax and import tax. A flat business tax. Flat capital gains and estate & gift tax af 20%. All at a flat rate of 20% let's go from there. With the additions being implement public health transtion to universal healthcare in 10 years. Add in child tax prebate, tax prebate for those not receiving TANF/SNAP, paid leave of 4 months, raise mininum wage to $15 an hour, exempt income being taxed till over $30,000, exempt $30,000 of business profit from being taxed, a mark to market tax on investments of $50 million, tax paid daycare, expand subdized daycare, raise TANF/SNAP income limits, replace social security with a monthly tax prebate, paid public higher education for two year and less institutions covers tuition/books/fees of students, and a carbon tax that taxes annual metric ton carbon output by corporations operating in the US.\nThere has to be some way to link mininum wage to match the poverty level in the US. Not sure if the poverty rate is a great metric or not. Also, could apply that towards the tax prebate individuals can opt into.\nDemocrats could consider tossing the estate & gift tax. Raise income & business exemption of income in a tax year to $50,000. Exempting or a lower consumption tax on meat, dairy, eggs, and perishable item's.\nThis is a great opportunity to tap into reform and expand the social safety net. Reforming the tax structure of the US. Improving quality of life in the US. Addressing budget issues in the US. Road to bipartisanship.\nI think if the US goes ahead with a sales tax have to be some strings attached it to. Those strings in the form of an expansive social safety net.\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.\nI mean for a person in the US with tax structure mentioned above an individual who makes say $100,000 on average in a year they pay $20,000 in taxes a year. They would make about $80,000. Average health premium is around $400-$600 a month. That's about $13,000 they lose in a year via taxes. Only $10,000 be from income taxes. Not incoprorating tax prebates or child tax prebate they could come up with a no loss and possibly a gain on their total income of $100,000 made in a tax year.\nCould say half 150% poverty level be the mininum to double. Have 4 brackets cap at $240,000 the maximum amount. Increases after individual makes over $60,000. Child tax prebate of $200 with maximum of $2,000 a month per household." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things.", ">\n\nBased republicans", ">\n\nOf course he wants to keep sending our money to fight foreign wars", ">\n\nI mean good starter idea by GOP. Just needs to be fine tuned and incoprorate expansive social safety net. Something that should be a bipartisan issue.\nNo expert with the economy. If such a reform occured now with inflation would it be a negative impact and would it be better to wait for something to pass down the road?\nI mean be great if Democrats reaponse was we are listening but few changes and additions. Such as keep the income tax. Simplify income tax. End marriage tax status. End tax withholdings and tax returns. Add a sales tax and import tax. A flat business tax. Flat capital gains and estate & gift tax af 20%. All at a flat rate of 20% let's go from there. With the additions being implement public health transtion to universal healthcare in 10 years. Add in child tax prebate, tax prebate for those not receiving TANF/SNAP, paid leave of 4 months, raise mininum wage to $15 an hour, exempt income being taxed till over $30,000, exempt $30,000 of business profit from being taxed, a mark to market tax on investments of $50 million, tax paid daycare, expand subdized daycare, raise TANF/SNAP income limits, replace social security with a monthly tax prebate, paid public higher education for two year and less institutions covers tuition/books/fees of students, and a carbon tax that taxes annual metric ton carbon output by corporations operating in the US.\nThere has to be some way to link mininum wage to match the poverty level in the US. Not sure if the poverty rate is a great metric or not. Also, could apply that towards the tax prebate individuals can opt into.\nDemocrats could consider tossing the estate & gift tax. Raise income & business exemption of income in a tax year to $50,000. Exempting or a lower consumption tax on meat, dairy, eggs, and perishable item's.\nThis is a great opportunity to tap into reform and expand the social safety net. Reforming the tax structure of the US. Improving quality of life in the US. Addressing budget issues in the US. Road to bipartisanship.\nI think if the US goes ahead with a sales tax have to be some strings attached it to. Those strings in the form of an expansive social safety net.\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.\nI mean for a person in the US with tax structure mentioned above an individual who makes say $100,000 on average in a year they pay $20,000 in taxes a year. They would make about $80,000. Average health premium is around $400-$600 a month. That's about $13,000 they lose in a year via taxes. Only $10,000 be from income taxes. Not incoprorating tax prebates or child tax prebate they could come up with a no loss and possibly a gain on their total income of $100,000 made in a tax year.\nCould say half 150% poverty level be the mininum to double. Have 4 brackets cap at $240,000 the maximum amount. Increases after individual makes over $60,000. Child tax prebate of $200 with maximum of $2,000 a month per household.", ">\n\n\n\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.<<\n\n\nIt’s been tried many, many times. Unless it shifts the tax burden off of the rich and ultra rich the Republicans vote as a block to suppress it. They even block efforts to make the tax code simpler and easier to understand; would make cheating on returns harder and piss off their “offshore account” donors. \nI wish it wasn’t so, but I’ve been watching them for decades and they never do anything else. It’s pretty much the core principle of the party. Everything else they do is to get enough voting mass to gain power and implement their core principal." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things.", ">\n\nBased republicans", ">\n\nOf course he wants to keep sending our money to fight foreign wars", ">\n\nI mean good starter idea by GOP. Just needs to be fine tuned and incoprorate expansive social safety net. Something that should be a bipartisan issue.\nNo expert with the economy. If such a reform occured now with inflation would it be a negative impact and would it be better to wait for something to pass down the road?\nI mean be great if Democrats reaponse was we are listening but few changes and additions. Such as keep the income tax. Simplify income tax. End marriage tax status. End tax withholdings and tax returns. Add a sales tax and import tax. A flat business tax. Flat capital gains and estate & gift tax af 20%. All at a flat rate of 20% let's go from there. With the additions being implement public health transtion to universal healthcare in 10 years. Add in child tax prebate, tax prebate for those not receiving TANF/SNAP, paid leave of 4 months, raise mininum wage to $15 an hour, exempt income being taxed till over $30,000, exempt $30,000 of business profit from being taxed, a mark to market tax on investments of $50 million, tax paid daycare, expand subdized daycare, raise TANF/SNAP income limits, replace social security with a monthly tax prebate, paid public higher education for two year and less institutions covers tuition/books/fees of students, and a carbon tax that taxes annual metric ton carbon output by corporations operating in the US.\nThere has to be some way to link mininum wage to match the poverty level in the US. Not sure if the poverty rate is a great metric or not. Also, could apply that towards the tax prebate individuals can opt into.\nDemocrats could consider tossing the estate & gift tax. Raise income & business exemption of income in a tax year to $50,000. Exempting or a lower consumption tax on meat, dairy, eggs, and perishable item's.\nThis is a great opportunity to tap into reform and expand the social safety net. Reforming the tax structure of the US. Improving quality of life in the US. Addressing budget issues in the US. Road to bipartisanship.\nI think if the US goes ahead with a sales tax have to be some strings attached it to. Those strings in the form of an expansive social safety net.\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.\nI mean for a person in the US with tax structure mentioned above an individual who makes say $100,000 on average in a year they pay $20,000 in taxes a year. They would make about $80,000. Average health premium is around $400-$600 a month. That's about $13,000 they lose in a year via taxes. Only $10,000 be from income taxes. Not incoprorating tax prebates or child tax prebate they could come up with a no loss and possibly a gain on their total income of $100,000 made in a tax year.\nCould say half 150% poverty level be the mininum to double. Have 4 brackets cap at $240,000 the maximum amount. Increases after individual makes over $60,000. Child tax prebate of $200 with maximum of $2,000 a month per household.", ">\n\n\n\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.<<\n\n\nIt’s been tried many, many times. Unless it shifts the tax burden off of the rich and ultra rich the Republicans vote as a block to suppress it. They even block efforts to make the tax code simpler and easier to understand; would make cheating on returns harder and piss off their “offshore account” donors. \nI wish it wasn’t so, but I’ve been watching them for decades and they never do anything else. It’s pretty much the core principle of the party. Everything else they do is to get enough voting mass to gain power and implement their core principal.", ">\n\nI guess I’m just confused…what’s wrong with abolishing the income tax and replacing it with a tax you only pay if you buy something? Makes sense to me tbh." ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things.", ">\n\nBased republicans", ">\n\nOf course he wants to keep sending our money to fight foreign wars", ">\n\nI mean good starter idea by GOP. Just needs to be fine tuned and incoprorate expansive social safety net. Something that should be a bipartisan issue.\nNo expert with the economy. If such a reform occured now with inflation would it be a negative impact and would it be better to wait for something to pass down the road?\nI mean be great if Democrats reaponse was we are listening but few changes and additions. Such as keep the income tax. Simplify income tax. End marriage tax status. End tax withholdings and tax returns. Add a sales tax and import tax. A flat business tax. Flat capital gains and estate & gift tax af 20%. All at a flat rate of 20% let's go from there. With the additions being implement public health transtion to universal healthcare in 10 years. Add in child tax prebate, tax prebate for those not receiving TANF/SNAP, paid leave of 4 months, raise mininum wage to $15 an hour, exempt income being taxed till over $30,000, exempt $30,000 of business profit from being taxed, a mark to market tax on investments of $50 million, tax paid daycare, expand subdized daycare, raise TANF/SNAP income limits, replace social security with a monthly tax prebate, paid public higher education for two year and less institutions covers tuition/books/fees of students, and a carbon tax that taxes annual metric ton carbon output by corporations operating in the US.\nThere has to be some way to link mininum wage to match the poverty level in the US. Not sure if the poverty rate is a great metric or not. Also, could apply that towards the tax prebate individuals can opt into.\nDemocrats could consider tossing the estate & gift tax. Raise income & business exemption of income in a tax year to $50,000. Exempting or a lower consumption tax on meat, dairy, eggs, and perishable item's.\nThis is a great opportunity to tap into reform and expand the social safety net. Reforming the tax structure of the US. Improving quality of life in the US. Addressing budget issues in the US. Road to bipartisanship.\nI think if the US goes ahead with a sales tax have to be some strings attached it to. Those strings in the form of an expansive social safety net.\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.\nI mean for a person in the US with tax structure mentioned above an individual who makes say $100,000 on average in a year they pay $20,000 in taxes a year. They would make about $80,000. Average health premium is around $400-$600 a month. That's about $13,000 they lose in a year via taxes. Only $10,000 be from income taxes. Not incoprorating tax prebates or child tax prebate they could come up with a no loss and possibly a gain on their total income of $100,000 made in a tax year.\nCould say half 150% poverty level be the mininum to double. Have 4 brackets cap at $240,000 the maximum amount. Increases after individual makes over $60,000. Child tax prebate of $200 with maximum of $2,000 a month per household.", ">\n\n\n\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.<<\n\n\nIt’s been tried many, many times. Unless it shifts the tax burden off of the rich and ultra rich the Republicans vote as a block to suppress it. They even block efforts to make the tax code simpler and easier to understand; would make cheating on returns harder and piss off their “offshore account” donors. \nI wish it wasn’t so, but I’ve been watching them for decades and they never do anything else. It’s pretty much the core principle of the party. Everything else they do is to get enough voting mass to gain power and implement their core principal.", ">\n\nI guess I’m just confused…what’s wrong with abolishing the income tax and replacing it with a tax you only pay if you buy something? Makes sense to me tbh.", ">\n\nbecause it will double most peoples tax burden, and those most people are basically everyone south of 100K a year. Do you make more than 100K a year?" ]

[ "Senate first, no?", ">\n\nCorrect. These House bills will never make to Biden's desk. \nRepublican congressmen know that, their voters do not.", ">\n\nWell there isn’t much that their voters do know, so it’s pretty much a given.", ">\n\nHad a neighbor the other day trying to tell me that trump was in Maralago on Jan 6. I said no he was in the White House. He said no that Biden was inaugurated and was in the White House. I just walked away.", ">\n\nThey really are dumb, which would be fine if they weren’t always forcing their stupidity on the rest of us.", ">\n\nThe voters might be, but until recently the actual politicians weren't, most were playing a role to get their votes. Perfect example is GWB, he wasn't stupid, he played the role of the yokel to appeal to the Republican base. Another example is Mitch McConnell. He's not dumb, he's actually pretty amazing at his job, his goals are just terrible for the majority of us. It's going to be interesting as the true believers take a larger role because they really are that dumb.", ">\n\nGWB may be of above average intelligence but he was hardly actual Yale material or presidential material when it came to intellect. He is the perfect definition of a nepo baby", ">\n\nYeah, I feel like there was a whole lotta “daddy, what should I do,” kind of stuff going on with that one. Or even more likely, he never had to ask as he’d already been told.", ">\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. So they yet again would be supporting getting fucked over and in this case in a big big way.", ">\n\n\nI would wager the majority of the core base Republicans don't even pay income tax. \n\nThey don't see it that way. They see taxes coming out of their check each pay period, and to them, that is paying taxes. And if a tax bill will see that total come down by even $20/pay period, they'll support it, because they see that as them paying less taxes. \nThe size of their refund check doesn't factor into it for them.", ">\n\nOh I remember the Republican tax \"cut\". I knew some people whose taxes went up, which they didn't figure out till tax time cause of the change in tables.", ">\n\nSo did they rationalize things away?", ">\n\nIf they’re anything like my family, they blamed it on democrats anyways", ">\n\n\"Fuck outta here with that shit, corn pop.\" - Joe Biden", ">\n\nHoly shit, you just gave me a new catchphrase!", ">\n\nPlease. Bidens never going to see them, theyre dead in the senate. Even the Republicans in the senate might say no.\nId sort of love to see the dems vote \"present\" just to watch the freakout.", ">\n\n\nEven the Republicans in the senate might say no.\n\nHah, you made a funny!", ">\n\nActually its happened before. Leading to McConnell at the time I think voting against his own bill.", ">\n\nI think that was so he could reintroduce it later", ">\n\nI don't even think this'll pass the Senate.", ">\n\nI would bet money it doesn't get out of the House.", ">\n\nIf they get past the Senate.", ">\n\nNot like they're ever going to make it to his desk. The Senate will not pass anything that egregious.\nNope, this is going to be two years of bullshit dead-end congressional investigations and no new legislation worth discussing.\nSome post offices might get renamed though.", ">\n\nI wonder if Biden will make it through his first term without ever using his veto pen?", ">\n\n\"Biden is no different than Trump, he's a republican\".\nScreed people who wanted republicans to win in 2020.", ">\n\nThere's a ton of people who want to see Democrats lose to republicans just for the satisfaction of saying \"I told ya so\".\nThey're really just people who wear their political ideology as an aesthetic, not as actual beliefs they want to see implemented in the world.", ">\n\nAnd Republican voters will likely throw a fit over this veto and call Biden a dictator, and the only response I can think of is,\nWhy are you ? You're not even rich!\nAnd they'll say...", ">\n\n\"One day I might be rich, and folks like me better watch their step!\"", ">\n\nUnexpected Futurama", ">\n\nI mean… I dont know about unexpected. He teed that one up nicely imo!", ">\n\nWipe your shoes with the piece of paper!", ">\n\nAs he should", ">\n\nA voice of reason in a world of malarkey.", ">\n\nQue the BS legislation and grandstanding", ">\n\nThe Senate won’t pass them to get them there. \nThe extra sentiment of fuck your dumb shit is appreciated though.", ">\n\nHe should get out in front of the debt ceiling brinkmanship by saying he'll flat veto any related bill that does anything other than simply raise the debt ceiling. The GOP needs to be broken of the filthy habit of using the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. \nAfter all, what is it they say about appeasement?", ">\n\nDark Brandon not gonna tolerate any GQP malarkey Jack", ">\n\nSanity at last.", ">\n\nThey can't give up all that Intuit money now can they?", ">\n\nGood on you, Joe.\nNow I hope you keep your promise to not give in when they shut down the gov't over SS & MC.", ">\n\nGood.", ">\n\nTLDR on the tax bills?", ">\n\nTL;DR: Rich people pay less, poor people pay more (but in a nickel-and-dimed way instead of a single bill)", ">\n\n\n‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills\n\nThis is not a surprise to anyone.", ">\n\nI’d prefer a VAT and luxury tax over federal income tax. It’s way harder to evade, and is what the US did before prohibition, and it actually made money for the federal government.", ">\n\nIncome tax is absurd. \nThe remaining money you have left you will go out and continue to pay taxes on...\nBuys a car with money left over after income tax,\nPays sales tax on car,\nPays gas tax each time you fill up\nDepending on state, you have to pay property tax just for the sake of paying for something you already own, paid for with money that has already been taxed. \n10-15% national flat tax. Get rid of all the hidden taxes or get rid of the income tax.", ">\n\nFlat, sales, and gas taxes are highly regressive impacting the power to a much higher degree than income taxes. \nLet's say I make $50K and my twin brother makes $5M. Assuming costs are the same percent of our take home. The flat tax is 10%\nI pay 5K in flat taxes. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 15K left to put into savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy brother pays 500K in flat taxes. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. I now have $1.5M left in savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nNow let's say we pay a progressive income tax. Same income, costs, sales tax.\nMy total effective tax is 5% which is 2.5K. My total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $27k. Add $3K in sales taxes. I now have 17.5K left for savings, investments, retirement, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy total effective tax is 25% which is $1.25M. His total yearly expenses not including any other taxes or emergencies are 60% of my take home which is $2.7m. Add $300k in sales taxes. He now has $0.75M remaining for savings, investments, emergencies, discretionary spending, etc. \nMy additional $2.5k, retained with a progressive tax, has a significantly more positive effect on my life than my brother's additional $.75M, retained with a flat tax. He might have to buy a smaller yacht. Single tear.", ">\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore", ">\n\n\nThat's a fancy way of saying you're all for continuing to fund an obviously failed government. \n\nSimple math is fancy talk.\n\nThey can just print the money, like the uniparty loves to do. \n\nThat's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. \n\nYa know, the reason there's hardly a middle class anymore\n\nThe reason we hardly have a middle class is because of half a century of dramatic tax cuts to corporations and wealthy individuals, explosive executive income growth, weak to flat middle-class income growth, cuts and weakening of the social safety net, deregulation of companies and banks, effective anti-union legislation, and so many other reasons. \nThe government is \"failed\" because smooth-brained republicans have undermined its basic functions in order to destroy the middle-class.", ">\n\nAhhh yes the uniparty loves when people blame one party over the other\nThat's exactly how all of this works. \nKeep the infighting alive and well, progress be damned.\nRegress \nRegress\nRegress.", ">\n\nVoter who wants to return to the Gilded Age surprised that their children work in a coal mine and their water is flammable.\n\"I never expected to have to spend company scrip for stale pinto beans!\" ~Unnamed Voter", ">\n\nChildren, mines? \nAre you talking about the 40,000 children that work the mines in the congo, mining cobalt for EVs? \nI wonder what their income tax is? \nBut we need them to work the mines. Our government demands all gov vehicles be electric by 2035.\nGet back in the mine, children!", ">\n\nBad thing exists in other place. Because bad thing exists I want bad thing here.", ">\n\nAre any of the bills from the house going to make it to Biden desk over the next 2 years?", ">\n\nNot if they keep passing garbage that the American public does not want and they know won't pass the Senate for the sake of being able to cry that they (the blatant obstructionists) are being obstructed.", ">\n\nAh so no then nothing good will come from this house then", ">\n\nI'd be surprised if they managed to get a single thing approved by the senate.", ">\n\nYa it would be a surprise, bet republicans won't pass a single thing and blame democrats, spend all their time trying to cut social security and impeach Biden. They will blame the democrats for not supporting them", ">\n\nI feel like that's been the plan from the beginning.", ">\n\nBefore the midterms they did say they were planning on gutting social care and planning to impeach Biden and investigate hunter Biden", ">\n\nGood thing they didn't get the senate too.", ">\n\nYa honestly, still scary that it was close for walker, guy is braindead, and nearly got in", ">\n\nThat was scary af.", ">\n\nawesome", ">\n\nGood! He should!! The republicans rejected Everything when Obama was in office. Now it’s time to stop their nonsense", ">\n\nWhere is the PR at how bad these bills are for the economy / inflation/ everyday American?\nFFS - counter* these classified doc stories *with some reasons why R can't govern.", ">\n\nI feel like you guys should let it pass tho; then start a massive media campaign against the republicans. After 3 months; pass an emergency bill to re-instate taxes.", ">\n\nHe won’t have to. They won’t get within light years of reaching his desk anyway.", ">\n\nThere is way too much money from Intuit and other tax software lobbies for this to EVER make it to Biden's desk. That's not even taking into account that the Senate will kill this bill even without lobbying, perhaps w/ bipartisan support against it.", ">\n\nThey’re not serious bills anyway. Republicans are wasting taxpayer money.", ">\n\nI'm fine with getting rid of income tax and having a national sales tax.", ">\n\nWe're the minority.", ">\n\nLast I checked these bills not only have to pass the House but have to pass the Senate before landing on his desk. They may pass the house but no way they get through the senate.", ">\n\nDo Republicans still try and sell \"triple down economics\"?\nOr are they past that and just openly piss on their own voters?", ">\n\njust wait til the debt ceiling battle and the government goes unfunded. If your paycheck comes from the US Government your time is running out to find a new employer.", ">\n\nThey'll still get paid, just paid late. And they'll still have to work.\nAnd after all their suffering, they'll still vote R.", ">\n\nBiden said he was going to do alot of things when elected. Then he forgot about them.", ">\n\nHe did a lot of things.", ">\n\nBased republicans", ">\n\nOf course he wants to keep sending our money to fight foreign wars", ">\n\nI mean good starter idea by GOP. Just needs to be fine tuned and incoprorate expansive social safety net. Something that should be a bipartisan issue.\nNo expert with the economy. If such a reform occured now with inflation would it be a negative impact and would it be better to wait for something to pass down the road?\nI mean be great if Democrats reaponse was we are listening but few changes and additions. Such as keep the income tax. Simplify income tax. End marriage tax status. End tax withholdings and tax returns. Add a sales tax and import tax. A flat business tax. Flat capital gains and estate & gift tax af 20%. All at a flat rate of 20% let's go from there. With the additions being implement public health transtion to universal healthcare in 10 years. Add in child tax prebate, tax prebate for those not receiving TANF/SNAP, paid leave of 4 months, raise mininum wage to $15 an hour, exempt income being taxed till over $30,000, exempt $30,000 of business profit from being taxed, a mark to market tax on investments of $50 million, tax paid daycare, expand subdized daycare, raise TANF/SNAP income limits, replace social security with a monthly tax prebate, paid public higher education for two year and less institutions covers tuition/books/fees of students, and a carbon tax that taxes annual metric ton carbon output by corporations operating in the US.\nThere has to be some way to link mininum wage to match the poverty level in the US. Not sure if the poverty rate is a great metric or not. Also, could apply that towards the tax prebate individuals can opt into.\nDemocrats could consider tossing the estate & gift tax. Raise income & business exemption of income in a tax year to $50,000. Exempting or a lower consumption tax on meat, dairy, eggs, and perishable item's.\nThis is a great opportunity to tap into reform and expand the social safety net. Reforming the tax structure of the US. Improving quality of life in the US. Addressing budget issues in the US. Road to bipartisanship.\nI think if the US goes ahead with a sales tax have to be some strings attached it to. Those strings in the form of an expansive social safety net.\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.\nI mean for a person in the US with tax structure mentioned above an individual who makes say $100,000 on average in a year they pay $20,000 in taxes a year. They would make about $80,000. Average health premium is around $400-$600 a month. That's about $13,000 they lose in a year via taxes. Only $10,000 be from income taxes. Not incoprorating tax prebates or child tax prebate they could come up with a no loss and possibly a gain on their total income of $100,000 made in a tax year.\nCould say half 150% poverty level be the mininum to double. Have 4 brackets cap at $240,000 the maximum amount. Increases after individual makes over $60,000. Child tax prebate of $200 with maximum of $2,000 a month per household.", ">\n\n\n\nWould be interesting to see if Democrats entertained the idea and see if Republicans were just spitballing or being serious.<<\n\n\nIt’s been tried many, many times. Unless it shifts the tax burden off of the rich and ultra rich the Republicans vote as a block to suppress it. They even block efforts to make the tax code simpler and easier to understand; would make cheating on returns harder and piss off their “offshore account” donors. \nI wish it wasn’t so, but I’ve been watching them for decades and they never do anything else. It’s pretty much the core principle of the party. Everything else they do is to get enough voting mass to gain power and implement their core principal.", ">\n\nI guess I’m just confused…what’s wrong with abolishing the income tax and replacing it with a tax you only pay if you buy something? Makes sense to me tbh.", ">\n\nbecause it will double most peoples tax burden, and those most people are basically everyone south of 100K a year. Do you make more than 100K a year?", ">\n\nOh so they removed the monthly tax prebate provision? (serious question)" ]

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[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst." ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious." ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you." ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)", ">\n\nBig wolf-like dogs are the default thing I imagine when I hear \"dogs\" and they're awesome. I really dislike designer accessory breeds. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic but also the whole idea of breeding dogs with genetic flaws just because humans find them \"cute\" is terribly arrogant and self-centered. \n\"That's not even a dog, that's a dag\" - Asmongold 😂\nThe only reason I'm not getting a dog is because I can't be bothered to deal with the responsibility. I don't have the time and energy to deal with one. If I ever got one I'd adopt a big one from a shelter. For now, I just pet the stray ones in my hometown.." ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)", ">\n\nBig wolf-like dogs are the default thing I imagine when I hear \"dogs\" and they're awesome. I really dislike designer accessory breeds. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic but also the whole idea of breeding dogs with genetic flaws just because humans find them \"cute\" is terribly arrogant and self-centered. \n\"That's not even a dog, that's a dag\" - Asmongold 😂\nThe only reason I'm not getting a dog is because I can't be bothered to deal with the responsibility. I don't have the time and energy to deal with one. If I ever got one I'd adopt a big one from a shelter. For now, I just pet the stray ones in my hometown..", ">\n\nblacklisted" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)", ">\n\nBig wolf-like dogs are the default thing I imagine when I hear \"dogs\" and they're awesome. I really dislike designer accessory breeds. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic but also the whole idea of breeding dogs with genetic flaws just because humans find them \"cute\" is terribly arrogant and self-centered. \n\"That's not even a dog, that's a dag\" - Asmongold 😂\nThe only reason I'm not getting a dog is because I can't be bothered to deal with the responsibility. I don't have the time and energy to deal with one. If I ever got one I'd adopt a big one from a shelter. For now, I just pet the stray ones in my hometown..", ">\n\nblacklisted", ">\n\ncome join us over on r/Dogfree OP" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)", ">\n\nBig wolf-like dogs are the default thing I imagine when I hear \"dogs\" and they're awesome. I really dislike designer accessory breeds. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic but also the whole idea of breeding dogs with genetic flaws just because humans find them \"cute\" is terribly arrogant and self-centered. \n\"That's not even a dog, that's a dag\" - Asmongold 😂\nThe only reason I'm not getting a dog is because I can't be bothered to deal with the responsibility. I don't have the time and energy to deal with one. If I ever got one I'd adopt a big one from a shelter. For now, I just pet the stray ones in my hometown..", ">\n\nblacklisted", ">\n\ncome join us over on r/Dogfree OP", ">\n\nI hate dog smell!!!! I don’t want them jumping on me or their nose in my private area." ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)", ">\n\nBig wolf-like dogs are the default thing I imagine when I hear \"dogs\" and they're awesome. I really dislike designer accessory breeds. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic but also the whole idea of breeding dogs with genetic flaws just because humans find them \"cute\" is terribly arrogant and self-centered. \n\"That's not even a dog, that's a dag\" - Asmongold 😂\nThe only reason I'm not getting a dog is because I can't be bothered to deal with the responsibility. I don't have the time and energy to deal with one. If I ever got one I'd adopt a big one from a shelter. For now, I just pet the stray ones in my hometown..", ">\n\nblacklisted", ">\n\ncome join us over on r/Dogfree OP", ">\n\nI hate dog smell!!!! I don’t want them jumping on me or their nose in my private area.", ">\n\nNot trying to change your opinion or anything but found your comment funny while looking at my dog cause she would be extremely offended at those savages you described as well. Just give her a quiet very very clean house (she likes herself to be very very clean) with no agitation and she will be very happy. She's high maintenance but in a different way" ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)", ">\n\nBig wolf-like dogs are the default thing I imagine when I hear \"dogs\" and they're awesome. I really dislike designer accessory breeds. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic but also the whole idea of breeding dogs with genetic flaws just because humans find them \"cute\" is terribly arrogant and self-centered. \n\"That's not even a dog, that's a dag\" - Asmongold 😂\nThe only reason I'm not getting a dog is because I can't be bothered to deal with the responsibility. I don't have the time and energy to deal with one. If I ever got one I'd adopt a big one from a shelter. For now, I just pet the stray ones in my hometown..", ">\n\nblacklisted", ">\n\ncome join us over on r/Dogfree OP", ">\n\nI hate dog smell!!!! I don’t want them jumping on me or their nose in my private area.", ">\n\nNot trying to change your opinion or anything but found your comment funny while looking at my dog cause she would be extremely offended at those savages you described as well. Just give her a quiet very very clean house (she likes herself to be very very clean) with no agitation and she will be very happy. She's high maintenance but in a different way", ">\n\nI'm actually not a super dog person, and I'm constantly catching heat for not being as into them as my peers. Don't get me wrong, I've had a dog in the house since I was 8 - but I'd never have one if I was living alone.\nI will echo what has been said a lot already, it's bad owners that make dog unbearable to be honest." ]

[ "As a former dog owner, I totally understand why some people don't like them, and I will never own another one. That being said, I think the main issue isn't dogs themselves, but the brain dead owners. Far too many dog owners think that everyone is supposed to fawn over their pet, and they actually get offended when you tell them that you don't want their dog jumping on you, licking you, sniffing your crotch, begging for your food, etc. Dog people swear that not liking dogs is a sign that you're a bad person, but the irony is that dog people are often some of the worst.", ">\n\nI know right?? One of the worst people of know is a dog activist that does everything to rescue and help abandoned dogs. But its curious, because she despises any other animals except dogs", ">\n\nThat's not exactly what he meant", ">\n\nSame tbh. They are very high effort pets and most people who own them arent responsible owners. As a result their dogs are incredibly obnoxious.", ">\n\nYeah exactly, the owners sees their dog humping and humping on you, and they say: owwn he likes you.", ">\n\nYou'd hate my dog", ">\n\nWhy are unpopular opinions about dogs a recurring theme on this sub?\nPersonally, I like people like OP better than people who say they love dogs but mistreat them (I wish more people were this true about their feelings, like if a ton of poor damaged people stopped to think twice about having kids, we’d all be living in a better world!)", ">\n\nthey are super needy but i think they cause a lot of happiness in humans’ lives that it’s worth it. you come home every day to something that loves you so much and is so excited, it makes you happy. (selfish but 24 actually love them!)", ">\n\nBig wolf-like dogs are the default thing I imagine when I hear \"dogs\" and they're awesome. I really dislike designer accessory breeds. Not only do they look ridiculous and pathetic but also the whole idea of breeding dogs with genetic flaws just because humans find them \"cute\" is terribly arrogant and self-centered. \n\"That's not even a dog, that's a dag\" - Asmongold 😂\nThe only reason I'm not getting a dog is because I can't be bothered to deal with the responsibility. I don't have the time and energy to deal with one. If I ever got one I'd adopt a big one from a shelter. For now, I just pet the stray ones in my hometown..", ">\n\nblacklisted", ">\n\ncome join us over on r/Dogfree OP", ">\n\nI hate dog smell!!!! I don’t want them jumping on me or their nose in my private area.", ">\n\nNot trying to change your opinion or anything but found your comment funny while looking at my dog cause she would be extremely offended at those savages you described as well. Just give her a quiet very very clean house (she likes herself to be very very clean) with no agitation and she will be very happy. She's high maintenance but in a different way", ">\n\nI'm actually not a super dog person, and I'm constantly catching heat for not being as into them as my peers. Don't get me wrong, I've had a dog in the house since I was 8 - but I'd never have one if I was living alone.\nI will echo what has been said a lot already, it's bad owners that make dog unbearable to be honest.", ">\n\nI have nothing to say besides fuck you and take my upvote" ]