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> lol speaking some truth here	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is" ]
> Your opinion is bad. Have an upvote.	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here" ]
> thanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote." ]
> A spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name" ]
> it's more grabbable with a table spoon. oh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!" ]
> My goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about" ]
> hahaha YES seriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed." ]
> um that last part.....	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them" ]
> what? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part....." ]
> Nah but why am I al dente rn	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk" ]
> ya nasty	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn" ]
> This is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty" ]
> Al dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!" ]
> softs are even better the next day	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste." ]
> Well this belongs here, congrats!	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day" ]
> Overcooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!" ]
> Undercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food." ]
> AGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)" ]
> Not sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit. The jury is divided.	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf" ]
> It depends on what you mean “the way”. Is it the way pasta with sauce is intended to be consumed? Yes. Does that mean everyone must consume it that way? No. For every food there are the correct ways to cook it, but if you bought it, make it any way you’d like. I don’t get why people are so dictatorial about how others consume food. Soft pasta, well done steak, dry omelette, pineapple on pizza, eat whatever makes you happy and stop judging others’ habits!	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf", ">\n\nNot sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit.\nThe jury is divided." ]
> Pasta al dente is the way, is more likely to be unpopular.	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf", ">\n\nNot sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit.\nThe jury is divided.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you mean “the way”. Is it the way pasta with sauce is intended to be consumed? Yes. Does that mean everyone must consume it that way? No.\nFor every food there are the correct ways to cook it, but if you bought it, make it any way you’d like. I don’t get why people are so dictatorial about how others consume food. Soft pasta, well done steak, dry omelette, pineapple on pizza, eat whatever makes you happy and stop judging others’ habits!" ]
> then whyyy does every recipe says "al dente", and never say "make it soft"	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf", ">\n\nNot sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit.\nThe jury is divided.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you mean “the way”. Is it the way pasta with sauce is intended to be consumed? Yes. Does that mean everyone must consume it that way? No.\nFor every food there are the correct ways to cook it, but if you bought it, make it any way you’d like. I don’t get why people are so dictatorial about how others consume food. Soft pasta, well done steak, dry omelette, pineapple on pizza, eat whatever makes you happy and stop judging others’ habits!", ">\n\nPasta al dente is the way, is more likely to be unpopular." ]
> because soft pasta sucks and yours is an unpopular opinion lmao what kind of question is that	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf", ">\n\nNot sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit.\nThe jury is divided.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you mean “the way”. Is it the way pasta with sauce is intended to be consumed? Yes. Does that mean everyone must consume it that way? No.\nFor every food there are the correct ways to cook it, but if you bought it, make it any way you’d like. I don’t get why people are so dictatorial about how others consume food. Soft pasta, well done steak, dry omelette, pineapple on pizza, eat whatever makes you happy and stop judging others’ habits!", ">\n\nPasta al dente is the way, is more likely to be unpopular.", ">\n\nthen whyyy does every recipe says \"al dente\", and never say \"make it soft\"" ]
> wait. I'm confused with your wording	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf", ">\n\nNot sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit.\nThe jury is divided.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you mean “the way”. Is it the way pasta with sauce is intended to be consumed? Yes. Does that mean everyone must consume it that way? No.\nFor every food there are the correct ways to cook it, but if you bought it, make it any way you’d like. I don’t get why people are so dictatorial about how others consume food. Soft pasta, well done steak, dry omelette, pineapple on pizza, eat whatever makes you happy and stop judging others’ habits!", ">\n\nPasta al dente is the way, is more likely to be unpopular.", ">\n\nthen whyyy does every recipe says \"al dente\", and never say \"make it soft\"", ">\n\nbecause soft pasta sucks and yours is an unpopular opinion lmao what kind of question is that" ]
> Completely agree, and with the cream sauces too. I also like soggy fries so what do I know	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf", ">\n\nNot sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit.\nThe jury is divided.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you mean “the way”. Is it the way pasta with sauce is intended to be consumed? Yes. Does that mean everyone must consume it that way? No.\nFor every food there are the correct ways to cook it, but if you bought it, make it any way you’d like. I don’t get why people are so dictatorial about how others consume food. Soft pasta, well done steak, dry omelette, pineapple on pizza, eat whatever makes you happy and stop judging others’ habits!", ">\n\nPasta al dente is the way, is more likely to be unpopular.", ">\n\nthen whyyy does every recipe says \"al dente\", and never say \"make it soft\"", ">\n\nbecause soft pasta sucks and yours is an unpopular opinion lmao what kind of question is that", ">\n\nwait. I'm confused with your wording" ]
>	[ "overcooked pasta is terrible.", ">\n\nwell, I love it the most", ">\n\nPasta cooked to aldente is meant to be finished intnhe sauce. People have misuderstood this italian cooking instruction for generations.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you're making. (Nuance?!)\nAre you making an Eastern European dish? Kugel? Stroganoff? Yeah, make that pasta a bit softer. Are you making a pasta bake? Lasagna? Baked Ziti? Yeah, the standard is softer because al dente is nearly impossible.\nBut if you're just doing aglio e olio, and you cremate that pasta, you're fucking dead to me.", ">\n\nI'm doing just pasta. By any recipe, carbonara, fettuccine, etc, but I cremate it.", ">\n\nI bet you put cream in your carbonara too", ">\n\nI don't know, I forget the names, but if I think cream suits the sause, I may add it", ">\n\nUndercooked pasta it's not good, I agree, but it's not what \"al dente\" means.\nYou overcooked it, it's not how it supposed to be, for this reason it is specified in recipes, but this doesn't mean that you have to like it and you are obviously free to eat your pasta as you like best.\nEdit: supposed to be traditionally, it's not a sacred law.", ">\n\ndamn, I was about to argue on \"supposed\" part", ">\n\nItalian here.\nMy parents were born in Italy before coming to Canada later on. I grew up on pasta, and the only time it's ever al dente (and very light on the al dente side, if anyone can audibly crunch their pasta then they're doing al dente wrong) is when it was made with most types of red sauce. Typically pasta arrabiata.", ">\n\nYou are Canadian, not Italian", ">\n\nItalian Canadian. Sure I was born here, but my ethnic background is Italian.", ">\n\nSo just Canadian really, most Italian people eat pasta al dente not pasta scotta (not pasta e scotta). Al dente has never been able to crunch on the pasta, that is raw, al dente is when it is somewhat more hard than soft but absolutely not crunchy.", ">\n\nSo basically you overcook your pasta.", ">\n\nyes, and it's awesome!", ">\n\nNot exactly. Feels like a wet noodle to me.", ">\n\nThat's exactly what pasta is", ">\n\nlol speaking some truth here", ">\n\nYour opinion is bad. Have an upvote.", ">\n\nthanks! I'll eat a spoon of my pasta in your name", ">\n\nA spoon to eat pasta? Now Im double-y triggered!", ">\n\nit's more grabbable with a table spoon.\noh, and.. I break spaghetti. but that's not what the post is about", ">\n\nMy goodness. We live in a society, we arent animals. Are you living in a loin cloth, swinging from tree to tree, while shouting these 'words' into a small, glowing rectangle you pilfered from one of the hairless apes watching you with awe? Because this is the only way I can imagine such things are being typed.", ">\n\nhahaha YES\nseriously tho, it's just easier to cook and easier to eat when they are short, their length brings nothing to the flavor. I'd buy short spaghetti if I'd ever seen them", ">\n\num that last part.....", ">\n\nwhat? sauses with creamy texture, based on cream or butter or milk", ">\n\nNah but why am I al dente rn", ">\n\nya nasty", ">\n\nThis is one of the few truly unpopular opinions I have read in this sub, congrats!!", ">\n\nAl dente is great because the next day, it's still structurally ok to eat and not paste.", ">\n\nsofts are even better the next day", ">\n\nWell this belongs here, congrats!", ">\n\nOvercooked pasta is the best and Italian North Americans are the most annoying group of people on earth about their food.", ">\n\nUndercooked and overcooked pasta are terrible. We need a balance :)", ">\n\nAGREED. I dont need crunch in my pasta wtf", ">\n\nNot sure how unpopular this actually is considering it's been posted several times. I also know people that love soggy, disgusting shit.\nThe jury is divided.", ">\n\nIt depends on what you mean “the way”. Is it the way pasta with sauce is intended to be consumed? Yes. Does that mean everyone must consume it that way? No.\nFor every food there are the correct ways to cook it, but if you bought it, make it any way you’d like. I don’t get why people are so dictatorial about how others consume food. Soft pasta, well done steak, dry omelette, pineapple on pizza, eat whatever makes you happy and stop judging others’ habits!", ">\n\nPasta al dente is the way, is more likely to be unpopular.", ">\n\nthen whyyy does every recipe says \"al dente\", and never say \"make it soft\"", ">\n\nbecause soft pasta sucks and yours is an unpopular opinion lmao what kind of question is that", ">\n\nwait. I'm confused with your wording", ">\n\nCompletely agree, and with the cream sauces too. I also like soggy fries so what do I know" ]
Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters. Because for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives. There is no rock bottom	[]
> There is no rock bottom There is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom" ]
> I love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP." ]
> Have you met Donald?	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us." ]
> Trump wishes he was this bold	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?" ]
> Yeah this guy really nails it.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold" ]
> George Santon invented resumes.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it." ]
> knew it.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes." ]
> That man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it." ]
> You have to put yourself in the mindset of a "creative thinker." He worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an "Asset Manager Associate." Break that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets. Obviously, the plunger is an "Asset" and the person holding it would be the asset's "Manager." "Associate" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank." ]
> Proofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work." ]
> Coin counter? That’s a “skill”?	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out." ]
> Clearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?" ]
> Public copy?	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed." ]
> The lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?" ]
> The info is also really bad. There's a lot of wasted space. He has a list of 18 skills, some only one word. Financial isn't even a specific skill. And why should I care about him doing "Client development"? That's an actual task, but there's no stated impact.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?", ">\n\nThe lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?" ]
> Yeah, it's just garbage top to bottom.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?", ">\n\nThe lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?", ">\n\nThe info is also really bad. There's a lot of wasted space. He has a list of 18 skills, some only one word. Financial isn't even a specific skill. And why should I care about him doing \"Client development\"? That's an actual task, but there's no stated impact." ]
> The paper itself was made from a lie	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?", ">\n\nThe lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?", ">\n\nThe info is also really bad. There's a lot of wasted space. He has a list of 18 skills, some only one word. Financial isn't even a specific skill. And why should I care about him doing \"Client development\"? That's an actual task, but there's no stated impact.", ">\n\nYeah, it's just garbage top to bottom." ]
> George Santos crossed the Delaware river in winter to surprise the British. Is that on your so called resume?	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?", ">\n\nThe lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?", ">\n\nThe info is also really bad. There's a lot of wasted space. He has a list of 18 skills, some only one word. Financial isn't even a specific skill. And why should I care about him doing \"Client development\"? That's an actual task, but there's no stated impact.", ">\n\nYeah, it's just garbage top to bottom.", ">\n\nThe paper itself was made from a lie" ]
> This resume is horribly formatted	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?", ">\n\nThe lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?", ">\n\nThe info is also really bad. There's a lot of wasted space. He has a list of 18 skills, some only one word. Financial isn't even a specific skill. And why should I care about him doing \"Client development\"? That's an actual task, but there's no stated impact.", ">\n\nYeah, it's just garbage top to bottom.", ">\n\nThe paper itself was made from a lie", ">\n\nGeorge Santos crossed the Delaware river in winter to surprise the British. Is that on your so called resume?" ]
> As I hiring manager, I'd actually be mad at the automated system for even letting me see this resume. If it got to me, I wouldn't even think twice about it.	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?", ">\n\nThe lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?", ">\n\nThe info is also really bad. There's a lot of wasted space. He has a list of 18 skills, some only one word. Financial isn't even a specific skill. And why should I care about him doing \"Client development\"? That's an actual task, but there's no stated impact.", ">\n\nYeah, it's just garbage top to bottom.", ">\n\nThe paper itself was made from a lie", ">\n\nGeorge Santos crossed the Delaware river in winter to surprise the British. Is that on your so called resume?", ">\n\nThis resume is horribly formatted" ]
>	[ "Everyone knows there will be no consequences what so ever, and he will probably get re-elected by GOP voters.\nBecause for some fucked up reason they seem very fond of having immoral pathological liars as their representatives.\nThere is no rock bottom", ">\n\n\nThere is no rock bottom\n\nThere is, it's just perpetual with the GOP.", ">\n\nI love how apparently easy it is to just lie your way into power. Incredible that this man reveals this to us.", ">\n\nHave you met Donald?", ">\n\nTrump wishes he was this bold", ">\n\nYeah this guy really nails it.", ">\n\nGeorge Santon invented resumes.", ">\n\nknew it.", ">\n\nThat man was, at best, a bank teller at CitiBank.", ">\n\nYou have to put yourself in the mindset of a \"creative thinker.\"\nHe worked for a company that contracted to Citi Group a couple times and he ended up calling himself an \"Asset Manager Associate.\"\nBreak that down. Let's say it's a plumbing firm that unclogs toilets.\nObviously, the plunger is an \"Asset\" and the person holding it would be the asset's \"Manager.\"\n\"Associate\" means they didn't really think he had the skill to manage the asset though, so he actually held his phone to use it as a flashlight while the skilled employee actually did the work.", ">\n\nProofreading is not listed among his skills. Checks out.", ">\n\nCoin counter? That’s a “skill”?", ">\n\nClearly fake. I don't see any mention of things like winning WWII single handedly or solving the Riemann Hypothesis which the real George Santos would have listed.", ">\n\nPublic copy?", ">\n\nThe lack of attention to detail in that resume is astounding. Like you couldn't pay someone $30 on fiverr to delete extraneous adjectives and make sure it doesn't have an awkward page break?", ">\n\nThe info is also really bad. There's a lot of wasted space. He has a list of 18 skills, some only one word. Financial isn't even a specific skill. And why should I care about him doing \"Client development\"? That's an actual task, but there's no stated impact.", ">\n\nYeah, it's just garbage top to bottom.", ">\n\nThe paper itself was made from a lie", ">\n\nGeorge Santos crossed the Delaware river in winter to surprise the British. Is that on your so called resume?", ">\n\nThis resume is horribly formatted", ">\n\nAs I hiring manager, I'd actually be mad at the automated system for even letting me see this resume. If it got to me, I wouldn't even think twice about it." ]
In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.	[]
> In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. How bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back." ]
> Im a Spaniard from Barcelona. I work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. I have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: There's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story Portugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower Morocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european" ]
> You’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. I don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. Barcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country." ]
> I would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better "social net" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain." ]
> Healthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. But that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad." ]
> You're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience." ]
> When was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch. My company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all." ]
> I can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years." ]
> If it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. Food, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. Keep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing." ]
> Everything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up There was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage." ]
> I still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are "free", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k" ]
> I think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. Looking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?" ]
> That's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt." ]
> If we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. The problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990." ]
> But the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London." ]
> The only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese. Europe puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity. Europe's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!" ]
> Biggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc. LVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either. Not saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?" ]
> Rent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are." ]
> Yup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough." ]
> And 99% of the rest of the world	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!" ]
> the pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world" ]
> Seriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects" ]
> I have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing." ]
> 2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. A year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability. Now I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living." ]
> This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot) 46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year. The countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows. Still, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the "Wrong direction," with just under a third saying things are going in the "Right direction." Extended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged." ]
> Its all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5" ]
> It's for a good cause then	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth." ]
> in cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then" ]
> In the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. It is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living. People who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked. It's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary." ]
> So then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich." ]
> I hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?" ]
> Well, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?" ]
> "More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved."	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone." ]
> ... or stayed the same.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"" ]
> The other half didn’t do the survey.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same." ]
> Well yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey." ]
> Am I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis" ]
> Who is "our" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine." ]
> Dutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?" ]
> the other half is too proud to admit it	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch." ]
> I can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it" ]
> What? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?" ]
> Tbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living. Edit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones.." ]
> This seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line" ]
> If you are well off mabye. The worse you are off, the worse inflation impacts you, i see the lines of food banks getting bigger here in germany.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line", ">\n\nThis seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit." ]
> I'm fairly well off for the standard in Bulgaria and it's still tangible. Inflation is around 17%, but many foodstuffs have risen a lot more than that.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line", ">\n\nThis seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit.", ">\n\nIf you are well off mabye. The worse you are off, the worse inflation impacts you, i see the lines of food banks getting bigger here in germany." ]
> "Take that, Putin!" Sanctions definitely didn't backfire. /s	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line", ">\n\nThis seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit.", ">\n\nIf you are well off mabye. The worse you are off, the worse inflation impacts you, i see the lines of food banks getting bigger here in germany.", ">\n\nI'm fairly well off for the standard in Bulgaria and it's still tangible. Inflation is around 17%, but many foodstuffs have risen a lot more than that." ]
> They accomplished their purpose, they significantly gripped Russia's war machine. A decade ago they had planned for a thousand Armata to be built before 2022. Today they have what, less thatn ten of them ? Since their annexion of Crimea they've been badly deprived of military electronics. Current sanctions are impacting their logistics (everything significant goes by rail in their country, and there's critical spare parts they're unable to produce themselves for their trains), their ability to extract their oil and gas... Not everything is being felt now but it's adding up slowly over time. Also I'd say that our standards have been stagnating since 2008, Russia doesn't have much to do with it. (The subprime crisis is a factor but hides the actual issue : the world is running out of fossil fuels, peak conventional oil has been reached around that date and Europe is especially exposed to shortages of the stuff. Yeah Russia was selling us oil and gas but the cost was that we'd have to let them act like bullies all day. At some point a continent that has lived through nazism have to make a stand.)	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line", ">\n\nThis seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit.", ">\n\nIf you are well off mabye. The worse you are off, the worse inflation impacts you, i see the lines of food banks getting bigger here in germany.", ">\n\nI'm fairly well off for the standard in Bulgaria and it's still tangible. Inflation is around 17%, but many foodstuffs have risen a lot more than that.", ">\n\n\"Take that, Putin!\"\nSanctions definitely didn't backfire.\n/s" ]
> Russians so far best news from the battlefield !	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line", ">\n\nThis seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit.", ">\n\nIf you are well off mabye. The worse you are off, the worse inflation impacts you, i see the lines of food banks getting bigger here in germany.", ">\n\nI'm fairly well off for the standard in Bulgaria and it's still tangible. Inflation is around 17%, but many foodstuffs have risen a lot more than that.", ">\n\n\"Take that, Putin!\"\nSanctions definitely didn't backfire.\n/s", ">\n\nThey accomplished their purpose, they significantly gripped Russia's war machine.\nA decade ago they had planned for a thousand Armata to be built before 2022. Today they have what, less thatn ten of them ? \nSince their annexion of Crimea they've been badly deprived of military electronics.\nCurrent sanctions are impacting their logistics (everything significant goes by rail in their country, and there's critical spare parts they're unable to produce themselves for their trains), their ability to extract their oil and gas...\nNot everything is being felt now but it's adding up slowly over time.\nAlso I'd say that our standards have been stagnating since 2008, Russia doesn't have much to do with it. (The subprime crisis is a factor but hides the actual issue : the world is running out of fossil fuels, peak conventional oil has been reached around that date and Europe is especially exposed to shortages of the stuff. Yeah Russia was selling us oil and gas but the cost was that we'd have to let them act like bullies all day. At some point a continent that has lived through nazism have to make a stand.)" ]
> "Welcome to the party pal"	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line", ">\n\nThis seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit.", ">\n\nIf you are well off mabye. The worse you are off, the worse inflation impacts you, i see the lines of food banks getting bigger here in germany.", ">\n\nI'm fairly well off for the standard in Bulgaria and it's still tangible. Inflation is around 17%, but many foodstuffs have risen a lot more than that.", ">\n\n\"Take that, Putin!\"\nSanctions definitely didn't backfire.\n/s", ">\n\nThey accomplished their purpose, they significantly gripped Russia's war machine.\nA decade ago they had planned for a thousand Armata to be built before 2022. Today they have what, less thatn ten of them ? \nSince their annexion of Crimea they've been badly deprived of military electronics.\nCurrent sanctions are impacting their logistics (everything significant goes by rail in their country, and there's critical spare parts they're unable to produce themselves for their trains), their ability to extract their oil and gas...\nNot everything is being felt now but it's adding up slowly over time.\nAlso I'd say that our standards have been stagnating since 2008, Russia doesn't have much to do with it. (The subprime crisis is a factor but hides the actual issue : the world is running out of fossil fuels, peak conventional oil has been reached around that date and Europe is especially exposed to shortages of the stuff. Yeah Russia was selling us oil and gas but the cost was that we'd have to let them act like bullies all day. At some point a continent that has lived through nazism have to make a stand.)", ">\n\nRussians so far best news from the battlefield !" ]
> Yeah, as a Swede, I've learned more about Swedish history during the poor ages. While we're not as fucked as back then, I'm still using a lot of tricks they had in that timeline. It feels weird, but at the same time, it's an odd connection with history.	[ "In Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash. The macroeconomic indicators are fine, but the standard of living did not come back.", ">\n\n\nIn Spain we still haven't recovered from the 2008 crash.\n\nHow bad is spain when compared to the neighboring countries? Honest question, not an european", ">\n\nIm a Spaniard from Barcelona. \nI work on an IT company, with a salary of 50k. \nI have a good live, own a Lexus, an appartment, I live with girlfriend and dog. I have to admit, I'm above the average in salary, so my view may not be representative. Yet this is my impression: \nThere's almost no difference in salary from north Spain than south of France. I've declined many french jobs there. Barcelona >>> Toulouse. But Paris is another story\nPortugal is very similar than Spain, maybe salaries are lower\nMorocco is a beautiful country, amazing people... But the gap in development index is still quite big. Its still a third world country.", ">\n\nYou’re an IT professional making 50k a year? Even with USD to EURO exchange rate thats like 25k under average. \nI don’t mean this disparagingly, but ouch brother. \nBarcelona is a beautiful city. Took a weeks vacation there this Christmas. Love Spain.", ">\n\nI would take 50k in Spain over 75k in US in a heartbeat. Free healthcare, lower life expenses in general, around 30 days of paid vacations a year, 4 months parental leave for both father and mother, better public transport infrastructure, and a much better \"social net\" (unemployment benefits, etc.) if things happen to go bad.", ">\n\nHealthcare in the US is tied to employment. I wouldn’t take my check and the great health care package I have with my 30 days PTO and 12 weeks paternity leave over European options. \nBut that’s just me. I’m not living his life and again, it’s not meant in any way disparagingly. It just seemed low, especially for an in demand skill that can net you way over 100k in the US with the right job experience.", ">\n\nYou're fucking lucky. I've worked for big companies, MSPs, CSPs, and my healthcare has been dog shit. Lucky if we got 15 days PTO. No parental leave at all.", ">\n\nWhen was that, because I used to have garbage healthcare too but the benefits given to tech workers improved massively during the COVID staffing crunch.\nMy company does 30 days pto, 6 weeks paternity, ironclad healthcare, and the craziest thing is we can bank hours we work over 40/wk and use them as extra pto, despite being salary. It's crazy how much benefits spiked in the last few years.", ">\n\nI can only afford rent and food. If I want to save up, it has to come from food, it's rather depressing.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel better a lot of people are living the same way in America. My family is me my fiancé and our cats. We are both in our early 20’s and saving up is hard. \nFood, gas, utilities and rent is where all of our money goes and we mostly live paycheck to paycheck. We are both looking at our future more and more as time goes on. Save small amounts at a time and you will see your savings grow. \nKeep your head up and stay in the fight! No time to give up, we all should face our battles every day head on with courage.", ">\n\nEverything is getting more expensive and salaries just arent keeping up\nThere was a post on /r/ukpolitics about how most people would need a £49k salary to be comfortable... the average salary in the UK is £30k", ">\n\nI still can't wrap my head around this. £30k is roughly the equivalent of $36,500USD. in America, that's not even a starting salary for a new college graduate in a white collar position. I know things like healthcare in the UK are \"free\", but is the overall cost of living there substantially less than what it is in the US?", ">\n\nI think part of it is that rent is a lot cheaper. Back in my home town I was paying £499/month for a 1 bed apartment. Now im in a big city and am paying £650/month. \nLooking at American rent prices makes my head hurt.", ">\n\nThat's crazy. Where I live, you'll be lucky if you can find a 1 bed/1 bath for $1,200 or roughly £990.", ">\n\nIf we take £50k to make calculations easier, once you deduct taxes, pension and student loans, that leaves you with like £2800/month net income. So yeah, you can have a pretty comfortable life on that if your rent + utility bills are less than £1000/month. \nThe problem is, in the UK the cost of living gets higher and higher the closer you get to London.", ">\n\nBut the richest have improved, sacrifices must be made!", ">\n\nThe only successful business in Europe is selling overpriced handbags to rich Arabs and Chinese.\nEurope puts more weight on quality of life and wealth redistribution than anywhere on earth (vs hard work and business competitiveness). Don't be surprised if it hurts your economy and prosperity.\nEurope's problem isn't that rich people are getting too much, it's that none of it's businesses are successful anymore. Except for LVMH, the biggest European companies are either banks, which have been doing terribly for 20 years and are consistently beaten by American banks, or oil and gas, which is a business of the past for Europe. Europe has completely missed out on tech. There's just no other strong economic sector. France is slowly micromanaging all its large businesses to death. If you don't have areas of strength and economic leadership, why would Europe be wealthier than say North Africa or other middle income countries?", ">\n\nBiggest European companies include things like Nestle (yes, terrible, but European), Glencore, Airbus, Siemens, Philips, Volkswagen, ArcelorMittal, Mercedes-benz, tons of games companies (like supercell, remedy, king etc) etc.\nLVMH doesn't even make it to top 20 in revenue lol. And there aren't many banks on that list either.\nNot saying your points are wrong, but your facts are.", ">\n\nRent has increased insanely and wages have not kept up. Inflation. Lockdowns. Life has gotten very tough.", ">\n\nYup only thing to do is keep your head up and keep fighting. Those who came before us have faced even worse and come out on top. We can do this!", ">\n\nAnd 99% of the rest of the world", ">\n\nthe pandemic was always gonna have some lasting effects", ">\n\nSeriously, having a decade-shaping event launch on December 31, 2019? Terrible writing.", ">\n\nI have a small income and a very spartanic lifestyle. So I managed to put some money to the side over the years. 2022 cost me more than I earned and like 20% of those savings due to some shitty circumstances like repairs etc but also just due to living.", ">\n\n2022 I injured my spine while away from home so I had to be treated out of network from my insurance. 70k+ of hospital bills. Plus being out of work for 2 months. \nA year ago I was doing better than most Americans. Still not great but had no debt, already paid off my tiny older (350sq ft) $30,000 home. Had some savings, no retirement. I had basic financial stability.\nNow I'm getting constant collections notices and money has turned into some bullshit fantasy number that doesn't mean anything. Feels awful. I was doing things right, I had health insurance, I had savings. The game is rigged.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\n46% of Europeans admit their standards of living have already decreased as a result of the mounting crises while 39% expect to see a decline sometime this year.\nThe countries where the perceived drop in living standards has been most pronounced are Cyprus, Greece, Malta, France and Portugal, the report shows.\nStill, over half of respondents say things in the EU are going in the \"Wrong direction,\" with just under a third saying things are going in the \"Right direction.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: European^#1 thing^#2 lives^#3 country^#4 Ukraine^#5", ">\n\nIts all so Billionaires can continue to grow their wealth.", ">\n\nIt's for a good cause then", ">\n\nin cases like mine (single and with a stable job), hardship has come just this latest year with the rise of inflation but is only going to get worse, because even if it miraculously prices stop rising, they are already so high that it's hard to make ends meet without serious cuts to everyday expenses. Just the energy bill has doubled and mortgage payment is getting worrying. The only thing that hasn't rised is my salary.", ">\n\nIn the Netherlands, this absolutely seems to be the case. \nIt is mostly a massive divide though. People who are homeowners and can afford to invest in renewable energy, insulation, etc. are probably still on the same standard of living.\nPeople who rent, or don't have money to invest in insulation etc, are probably a little f*cked.\nIt's a growing divide between the poor and the rich.", ">\n\nSo then presumably more than half say they standards of living have increased?", ">\n\nI hope you are Joking and You know there are Obviously more than two answers, right?", ">\n\nWell, they've either declined, increased, or stayed the same. But it's almost statistically impossible for things to remain exactly the same, so really standards of living should have either increased or decreased for pretty much everyone.", ">\n\n\"More than half of Europeans say their standards of living have improved.\"", ">\n\n... or stayed the same.", ">\n\nThe other half didn’t do the survey.", ">\n\nWell yes it's quite clear. Many women turned to sex work due to living crisis", ">\n\nAm I the only one who thinks a large part of our population are being a bunch of whiny bitches? Our government gave everyone 190 euros for two months to compensate higher energy prices. And on New Year’s Eve the population lighted a record amount of fireworks. If a substantial part of the population has enough money to almost literally burn it up, we’re fine.", ">\n\nWho is \"our\" and why are you being a whiny bitch about people enjoying themselves?", ">\n\nDutch government. And people enjoying themselves is fine but if people complain about lowering standards while you keep paying more for entertainment you are a whiny bitch.", ">\n\nthe other half is too proud to admit it", ">\n\nI can take it as long it serves some purpose. Do I really need new iPhone every year?", ">\n\nWhat? Just what..? People are talking about not being able to afford food and you’re over here talking about iPhones..", ">\n\nTbf whether you go from just barely getting by to not being able to afford food or whether you go from buying a new iPhone every year to not being able to do that, both are a drop in someone's standard of living.\nEdit: you dont get to 43% of people saying their standard of living has declined without including some people above the poverty line", ">\n\nThis seems like Russian propaganda to me. I don't know why this is even news. We all knew the Russian war and covid restrictions were going to affect the entire world for a few years. Inflation = lower your standards a bit.", ">\n\nIf you are well off mabye. The worse you are off, the worse inflation impacts you, i see the lines of food banks getting bigger here in germany.", ">\n\nI'm fairly well off for the standard in Bulgaria and it's still tangible. Inflation is around 17%, but many foodstuffs have risen a lot more than that.", ">\n\n\"Take that, Putin!\"\nSanctions definitely didn't backfire.\n/s", ">\n\nThey accomplished their purpose, they significantly gripped Russia's war machine.\nA decade ago they had planned for a thousand Armata to be built before 2022. Today they have what, less thatn ten of them ? \nSince their annexion of Crimea they've been badly deprived of military electronics.\nCurrent sanctions are impacting their logistics (everything significant goes by rail in their country, and there's critical spare parts they're unable to produce themselves for their trains), their ability to extract their oil and gas...\nNot everything is being felt now but it's adding up slowly over time.\nAlso I'd say that our standards have been stagnating since 2008, Russia doesn't have much to do with it. (The subprime crisis is a factor but hides the actual issue : the world is running out of fossil fuels, peak conventional oil has been reached around that date and Europe is especially exposed to shortages of the stuff. Yeah Russia was selling us oil and gas but the cost was that we'd have to let them act like bullies all day. At some point a continent that has lived through nazism have to make a stand.)", ">\n\nRussians so far best news from the battlefield !", ">\n\n\"Welcome to the party pal\"" ]

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