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Coming to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress. | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere"
] |
>
Seems like something to expect in the US soon. | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress."
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This was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder. | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon."
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US murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019. | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder."
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Dang fricken Thunderdome over there. | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder.",
">\n\nUS murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019."
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This could become a trend. American Lawyers, take note. | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder.",
">\n\nUS murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019.",
">\n\nDang fricken Thunderdome over there."
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Bring back Judge Judy. It is about to get entertaining! | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder.",
">\n\nUS murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019.",
">\n\nDang fricken Thunderdome over there.",
">\n\nThis could become a trend. American Lawyers, take note."
] |
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So over there you can hire a lawyer to have a shootout with your lawyer? | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder.",
">\n\nUS murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019.",
">\n\nDang fricken Thunderdome over there.",
">\n\nThis could become a trend. American Lawyers, take note.",
">\n\nBring back Judge Judy. It is about to get entertaining!"
] |
>
It's nice to see DW has grown to be a big time journalist, I wonder what Arthur is up to these days?
(I did not read the article, as per tradition) | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder.",
">\n\nUS murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019.",
">\n\nDang fricken Thunderdome over there.",
">\n\nThis could become a trend. American Lawyers, take note.",
">\n\nBring back Judge Judy. It is about to get entertaining!",
">\n\nSo over there you can hire a lawyer to have a shootout with your lawyer?"
] |
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Yeah, its good DW finally realised what a piece of shit she was when she decided to become a fucking cop | [
"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder.",
">\n\nUS murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019.",
">\n\nDang fricken Thunderdome over there.",
">\n\nThis could become a trend. American Lawyers, take note.",
">\n\nBring back Judge Judy. It is about to get entertaining!",
">\n\nSo over there you can hire a lawyer to have a shootout with your lawyer?",
">\n\nIt's nice to see DW has grown to be a big time journalist, I wonder what Arthur is up to these days?\n(I did not read the article, as per tradition)"
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"This reads like something out of a Phoenix Wright case",
">\n\nSeems likely any posthumous objection would be sustained",
">\n\n\n\"The killer, a junior lawyer who was wearing his gown, opened fire at close range and then handed himself over to the police,\" said Ijaz Khan, a senior police official.\nA legal assistant, Muhammad Rizwan, who witnessed the shooting, said the attacker told police: \"don't shoot, I had a feud with him and I have taken my revenge,\" before being arrested.\n\nHonor killing",
">\n\nyou'd think a lawyer could come up with some better way to provide consequence to criminal action\nlike a court or something",
">\n\nIn Pakistan the courts are some of the worst on the planet. If you are rich you get justice or decides what justice even means.\nChances are a big shot lawyer/politican has connections with political families or the military. When you have that you do what you want with impunity.\nThe junior lawyer likely knew that. If he was wronged gravely this was probably the only thing he could do.",
">\n\nIts something of a uniquely South Asian problem. Massive population, and particularly dense concentrations of humanity. And overall system poverty, so nowhere close to having the number you need of judges, law officers, clerical staff, policemen, forensics, etc on a per capita basis. \nAnd a legal system that was forged in a colonial experience designed to be deeply hierarchical and slow, and made even slower by the procedural morass added onto it over the decades.\nIf you ever wanted to see a game of Snakes and Ladders come to life, all you gotta do is study how the law works in South Asia.",
">\n\nSouth Asia definitely shares a lot of the flaws brought up by the remnants of colonialism. Many laws were meant to protect the British elite in a way, so you get stuck in this almost 2 tiered system.\nBut while I can't speak about specifics of the other countries, Pakistan specifically has a problem with elite capture.\nFrom the media to the judiciary, you get the perspective of one class of society which is often skewed away from the reality of the masses (if not heavily censored by the military).\nThis really prevents equal justice, because their so much is done to protect the wealth of the rich.",
">\n\nThis reminds me of a rule I’ve always held close:\nWatch who’s head you step on , on the way up, you may see them again on your way back down.",
">\n\nNow he gets all of the top clients and since he's such a ~~good~~ connected lawyer he'll beat the murder charge.",
">\n\nHaha good one though! Well I think this goodness must be stopped then the country and the people can't take it anymore !",
">\n\nI feel there is a harvey birdman quote in this tragedy somewhere",
">\n\nComing to the US Congress and the GOP took down the magnetometers at the entry of the Congress.",
">\n\nSeems like something to expect in the US soon.",
">\n\nThis was a personal feud, not related to trials or anything. Shooter had accused him of being involved in his father's murder.",
">\n\nUS murder rates in general did spike roughly 40% since 2019.",
">\n\nDang fricken Thunderdome over there.",
">\n\nThis could become a trend. American Lawyers, take note.",
">\n\nBring back Judge Judy. It is about to get entertaining!",
">\n\nSo over there you can hire a lawyer to have a shootout with your lawyer?",
">\n\nIt's nice to see DW has grown to be a big time journalist, I wonder what Arthur is up to these days?\n(I did not read the article, as per tradition)",
">\n\nYeah, its good DW finally realised what a piece of shit she was when she decided to become a fucking cop"
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One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding. | [] |
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And as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.
"Starve the Beast" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.
So fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding."
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in germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories"
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Same in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out"
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Yes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare."
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Pretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh"
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Voters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind... | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term."
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Somebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind..."
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Wow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S
Why is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?
Seems to me that their idea of "wasting money" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that "this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day." | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit."
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Remember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken! | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\""
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Typical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!"
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Yeah, it's funny how right-wing (let's call them what they are, fascists) operators like Steve Bannon are exporting their hate and bad government policies over to the UK and other places around the world. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!",
">\n\nTypical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector"
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Stupid British socialism. Here in the US, we let people die, but first we make sure they have too much debt to have any options.
You really haven't lived until you've stepped over an incontinent 80 year old lady with cancer who was dropped off by EMS in a hospital gown on the sidewalk in front of a homeless shelter. Again.
Actually, you know what? I think I'll try the socialized medicine. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!",
">\n\nTypical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector",
">\n\nYeah, it's funny how right-wing (let's call them what they are, fascists) operators like Steve Bannon are exporting their hate and bad government policies over to the UK and other places around the world."
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I just saw a story on a sub about complaints from immigrants eating school food in NYC, and people there were saying; "that's no big deal -- that food is fine."
You know, because we in America have adapted to eating over processed dog food, and think it's just a matter of cultural taste. Sure, throw some salsa on that DOG FOOD people!
More and more parts of the country are like what we called the "third world" and a lot of people think that we have it better because of the inertia of prior beliefs.
On balance, it's probably a good idea to immigrate to America from some places -- but, not for the school lunches and prison system -- which, it's a cost savings to keep a lot of the same infrastructure and architectural designs, I'm sure. And we are ALL about saving money on kids and prisoners. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!",
">\n\nTypical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector",
">\n\nYeah, it's funny how right-wing (let's call them what they are, fascists) operators like Steve Bannon are exporting their hate and bad government policies over to the UK and other places around the world.",
">\n\nStupid British socialism. Here in the US, we let people die, but first we make sure they have too much debt to have any options.\nYou really haven't lived until you've stepped over an incontinent 80 year old lady with cancer who was dropped off by EMS in a hospital gown on the sidewalk in front of a homeless shelter. Again.\nActually, you know what? I think I'll try the socialized medicine."
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The nyc comment would be cool if the pictures didn't make the food to look like sandwiches and salads. Not to call them begging choosers but if you are reliant on state hospitality for room and board maybe don't bitch about it being hot and gourmet. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!",
">\n\nTypical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector",
">\n\nYeah, it's funny how right-wing (let's call them what they are, fascists) operators like Steve Bannon are exporting their hate and bad government policies over to the UK and other places around the world.",
">\n\nStupid British socialism. Here in the US, we let people die, but first we make sure they have too much debt to have any options.\nYou really haven't lived until you've stepped over an incontinent 80 year old lady with cancer who was dropped off by EMS in a hospital gown on the sidewalk in front of a homeless shelter. Again.\nActually, you know what? I think I'll try the socialized medicine.",
">\n\nI just saw a story on a sub about complaints from immigrants eating school food in NYC, and people there were saying; \"that's no big deal -- that food is fine.\"\nYou know, because we in America have adapted to eating over processed dog food, and think it's just a matter of cultural taste. Sure, throw some salsa on that DOG FOOD people!\nMore and more parts of the country are like what we called the \"third world\" and a lot of people think that we have it better because of the inertia of prior beliefs.\nOn balance, it's probably a good idea to immigrate to America from some places -- but, not for the school lunches and prison system -- which, it's a cost savings to keep a lot of the same infrastructure and architectural designs, I'm sure. And we are ALL about saving money on kids and prisoners."
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The point is people who don’t normally complain are complaining. A photo is not necessarily what was given when only immigrants were eating.
I have eaten school lunches and it did not kill me. But, I don’t want to do it again. | [
"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!",
">\n\nTypical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector",
">\n\nYeah, it's funny how right-wing (let's call them what they are, fascists) operators like Steve Bannon are exporting their hate and bad government policies over to the UK and other places around the world.",
">\n\nStupid British socialism. Here in the US, we let people die, but first we make sure they have too much debt to have any options.\nYou really haven't lived until you've stepped over an incontinent 80 year old lady with cancer who was dropped off by EMS in a hospital gown on the sidewalk in front of a homeless shelter. Again.\nActually, you know what? I think I'll try the socialized medicine.",
">\n\nI just saw a story on a sub about complaints from immigrants eating school food in NYC, and people there were saying; \"that's no big deal -- that food is fine.\"\nYou know, because we in America have adapted to eating over processed dog food, and think it's just a matter of cultural taste. Sure, throw some salsa on that DOG FOOD people!\nMore and more parts of the country are like what we called the \"third world\" and a lot of people think that we have it better because of the inertia of prior beliefs.\nOn balance, it's probably a good idea to immigrate to America from some places -- but, not for the school lunches and prison system -- which, it's a cost savings to keep a lot of the same infrastructure and architectural designs, I'm sure. And we are ALL about saving money on kids and prisoners.",
">\n\nThe nyc comment would be cool if the pictures didn't make the food to look like sandwiches and salads. Not to call them begging choosers but if you are reliant on state hospitality for room and board maybe don't bitch about it being hot and gourmet."
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"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!",
">\n\nTypical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector",
">\n\nYeah, it's funny how right-wing (let's call them what they are, fascists) operators like Steve Bannon are exporting their hate and bad government policies over to the UK and other places around the world.",
">\n\nStupid British socialism. Here in the US, we let people die, but first we make sure they have too much debt to have any options.\nYou really haven't lived until you've stepped over an incontinent 80 year old lady with cancer who was dropped off by EMS in a hospital gown on the sidewalk in front of a homeless shelter. Again.\nActually, you know what? I think I'll try the socialized medicine.",
">\n\nI just saw a story on a sub about complaints from immigrants eating school food in NYC, and people there were saying; \"that's no big deal -- that food is fine.\"\nYou know, because we in America have adapted to eating over processed dog food, and think it's just a matter of cultural taste. Sure, throw some salsa on that DOG FOOD people!\nMore and more parts of the country are like what we called the \"third world\" and a lot of people think that we have it better because of the inertia of prior beliefs.\nOn balance, it's probably a good idea to immigrate to America from some places -- but, not for the school lunches and prison system -- which, it's a cost savings to keep a lot of the same infrastructure and architectural designs, I'm sure. And we are ALL about saving money on kids and prisoners.",
">\n\nThe nyc comment would be cool if the pictures didn't make the food to look like sandwiches and salads. Not to call them begging choosers but if you are reliant on state hospitality for room and board maybe don't bitch about it being hot and gourmet.",
">\n\nThe point is people who don’t normally complain are complaining. A photo is not necessarily what was given when only immigrants were eating. \nI have eaten school lunches and it did not kill me. But, I don’t want to do it again."
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"One of the Ukrainians we hosted had her cancer treatment continued on the NHS, so while some have had bad experiences, not all have. Although you might argue their last year or so hasn't been brilliant, NHS notwithstanding.",
">\n\nAnd as usual the vast majority of our media (right wing no surprise) is all pushing headlines about the NHS struggles, long wait times and people dying due to the delays and almost none of them ever mention that it's all by Tory government design to force the NHS to collapse so they can sell it off to their mates in the private sector.\n\"Starve the Beast\" is the entire Tory NHS policy while making sure their media mates are busy placing the blame everywhere other than where it belongs.\nSo fucking sick of how the Tories treat everyone here that's not wealthy and donating to the Tories",
">\n\nin germany is the same, the workers need to be streched out",
">\n\nSame in Ontario. Our premier just said our health care system is like Cuba or North Korea. And there's no money to fund it, so he's going to spend a bunch to fund private healthcare.",
">\n\nYes, because that's worked out SO well down here in the US! smh",
">\n\nPretty much everything he's done is self enriching corruption, and we voted him into a second term.",
">\n\nVoters in both our countries need to figure out that just because a politician is good at giving speeches doesn't make them a great politician. Look at the mess Obama left behind...",
">\n\nSomebody is going to argue this is a positive outcomes from Brexit.",
">\n\nWow -- those conservative Tories are really making EVERYTHING better in Britain, aren't they? Brexit. NHS. Thatcherism. /S\nWhy is it the richer and more productive and fiscally conservative we get in England and America, the more things we can suddenly NOT afford?\nSeems to me that their idea of \"wasting money\" investing infrastructure and the poor are bad ideas that don't actually pan out in the real world. And maybe, wise people would stop listening to the people who constantly get richer and tell us that \"this is just a phase -- as soon as we get rid of that OTHER wasteful liberal spending, this is going to be a great experience. Diamond hands and stiff upper lip will see the day.\"",
">\n\nRemember: It's broken because the Tories WANT it broken!",
">\n\nTypical right wing strategy; deliberately cripple a government system and complain about government inefficiency they created in order to promote a worse version in the private sector",
">\n\nYeah, it's funny how right-wing (let's call them what they are, fascists) operators like Steve Bannon are exporting their hate and bad government policies over to the UK and other places around the world.",
">\n\nStupid British socialism. Here in the US, we let people die, but first we make sure they have too much debt to have any options.\nYou really haven't lived until you've stepped over an incontinent 80 year old lady with cancer who was dropped off by EMS in a hospital gown on the sidewalk in front of a homeless shelter. Again.\nActually, you know what? I think I'll try the socialized medicine.",
">\n\nI just saw a story on a sub about complaints from immigrants eating school food in NYC, and people there were saying; \"that's no big deal -- that food is fine.\"\nYou know, because we in America have adapted to eating over processed dog food, and think it's just a matter of cultural taste. Sure, throw some salsa on that DOG FOOD people!\nMore and more parts of the country are like what we called the \"third world\" and a lot of people think that we have it better because of the inertia of prior beliefs.\nOn balance, it's probably a good idea to immigrate to America from some places -- but, not for the school lunches and prison system -- which, it's a cost savings to keep a lot of the same infrastructure and architectural designs, I'm sure. And we are ALL about saving money on kids and prisoners.",
">\n\nThe nyc comment would be cool if the pictures didn't make the food to look like sandwiches and salads. Not to call them begging choosers but if you are reliant on state hospitality for room and board maybe don't bitch about it being hot and gourmet.",
">\n\nThe point is people who don’t normally complain are complaining. A photo is not necessarily what was given when only immigrants were eating. \nI have eaten school lunches and it did not kill me. But, I don’t want to do it again.",
">\n\nr/medicine"
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Nice looks great with the set, I'm personally quite a fan of nicepbt sets :D | [] |
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Yeah I saw these keycaps when I was building in the Sonnet configurator, and I instantly knew I had to get this awesome combo | [
"Nice looks great with the set, I'm personally quite a fan of nicepbt sets :D"
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That's so clean dude, good job! | [
"Nice looks great with the set, I'm personally quite a fan of nicepbt sets :D",
">\n\nYeah I saw these keycaps when I was building in the Sonnet configurator, and I instantly knew I had to get this awesome combo"
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Thanks! | [
"Nice looks great with the set, I'm personally quite a fan of nicepbt sets :D",
">\n\nYeah I saw these keycaps when I was building in the Sonnet configurator, and I instantly knew I had to get this awesome combo",
">\n\nThat's so clean dude, good job!"
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You're very much welcome! How are the Doom Tactiles? | [
"Nice looks great with the set, I'm personally quite a fan of nicepbt sets :D",
">\n\nYeah I saw these keycaps when I was building in the Sonnet configurator, and I instantly knew I had to get this awesome combo",
">\n\nThat's so clean dude, good job!",
">\n\nThanks!"
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That's an interesting Sonnet config... I like that. | [
"Nice looks great with the set, I'm personally quite a fan of nicepbt sets :D",
">\n\nYeah I saw these keycaps when I was building in the Sonnet configurator, and I instantly knew I had to get this awesome combo",
">\n\nThat's so clean dude, good job!",
">\n\nThanks!",
">\n\nYou're very much welcome! How are the Doom Tactiles?"
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"Nice looks great with the set, I'm personally quite a fan of nicepbt sets :D",
">\n\nYeah I saw these keycaps when I was building in the Sonnet configurator, and I instantly knew I had to get this awesome combo",
">\n\nThat's so clean dude, good job!",
">\n\nThanks!",
">\n\nYou're very much welcome! How are the Doom Tactiles?",
">\n\nThat's an interesting Sonnet config... I like that."
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Why does this have to be an "emergency"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep | [] |
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that's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep"
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I hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before."
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100% | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century."
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Abolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%"
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As it was designed to do | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos."
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It was designed to keep the us out of ww1 | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do"
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Fat lot of good that did us. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1"
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Who, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us."
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The entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.
"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose."
or, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, "You f%\^in did this, Kevin." | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich."
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Yeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The "Two Santas" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're "broke" and "forced" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.
The GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\""
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I will keep voting. But I am just defeated.
If these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools."
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I feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things."
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Permanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up."
] |
>
"the shock doctrine" by Naomi klein | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse"
] |
>
Summary of article:
The problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ...
it just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein"
] |
>
I have a simple solution: make military spending a lower "class" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.
Suddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash."
] |
>
This is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money."
] |
>
The problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist). | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit."
] |
>
Maybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist)."
] |
>
Congressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip."
] |
>
Fucking morons. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s"
] |
>
They have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons."
] |
>
If Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing."
] |
>
There are two: it
Isn’t a real emergency and they have no plan. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem."
] |
>
"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill." | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan."
] |
>
"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches" | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\""
] |
>
Kiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\""
] |
>
They have no plan. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP"
] |
>
There is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.
I propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt.
Another proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.
It might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan."
] |
>
I think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.
Then there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got?
If everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting.
Oh well pipe dreams. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state."
] |
>
I genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams."
] |
>
It will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time."
] |
>
I genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power.
History has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”.
There are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus."
] |
>
Didn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much? | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government."
] |
>
This isn't even about spending. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?"
] |
>
Hmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending."
] |
>
Oh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos."
] |
>
I mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army..... | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks."
] |
>
Is there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024? | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army....."
] |
>
No. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.
Its also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?"
] |
>
If he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025."
] |
>
Just to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?
It would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch "The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat" McConnell.
(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.) | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement."
] |
>
The problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)"
] |
>
"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!"
"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!" | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show."
] |
>
According to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............
they want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.
In other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.
Hey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think? | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\""
] |
>
GOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?"
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The GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters."
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The plan is simple
Just threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy
A healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda."
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Unfortunately the mindset is the worst republican is better than the best Democrat
I have several people that has that believe, all democrats are the most corrupt people. You cannot argue with those people
They are living in their own fictional world based on Fox News propaganda | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda.",
">\n\nThe plan is simple\nJust threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy\nA healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances"
] |
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How bout this: stop spending money our great great grandchildren hasn't made yet they will have to pay back. Potus and dems can do that...if they've got the guts | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda.",
">\n\nThe plan is simple\nJust threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy\nA healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances",
">\n\nUnfortunately the mindset is the worst republican is better than the best Democrat\nI have several people that has that believe, all democrats are the most corrupt people. You cannot argue with those people\nThey are living in their own fictional world based on Fox News propaganda"
] |
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The National Debt rose 7.8 trillion dollars under Trump. The debt ceiling was raised three times without confrontation, dispute, or fanfare during his term.
Republicans held both houses during 2 years of Trump's term. What spending did they cut? | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda.",
">\n\nThe plan is simple\nJust threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy\nA healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances",
">\n\nUnfortunately the mindset is the worst republican is better than the best Democrat\nI have several people that has that believe, all democrats are the most corrupt people. You cannot argue with those people\nThey are living in their own fictional world based on Fox News propaganda",
">\n\nHow bout this: stop spending money our great great grandchildren hasn't made yet they will have to pay back. Potus and dems can do that...if they've got the guts"
] |
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3 trillion tax cut. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda.",
">\n\nThe plan is simple\nJust threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy\nA healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances",
">\n\nUnfortunately the mindset is the worst republican is better than the best Democrat\nI have several people that has that believe, all democrats are the most corrupt people. You cannot argue with those people\nThey are living in their own fictional world based on Fox News propaganda",
">\n\nHow bout this: stop spending money our great great grandchildren hasn't made yet they will have to pay back. Potus and dems can do that...if they've got the guts",
">\n\nThe National Debt rose 7.8 trillion dollars under Trump. The debt ceiling was raised three times without confrontation, dispute, or fanfare during his term.\nRepublicans held both houses during 2 years of Trump's term. What spending did they cut?"
] |
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Yeah, I know.
But they had the chance to cut spending too if they wanted, but they didn't.
Spending wasn't an issue until the Democrats were in the WH again. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda.",
">\n\nThe plan is simple\nJust threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy\nA healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances",
">\n\nUnfortunately the mindset is the worst republican is better than the best Democrat\nI have several people that has that believe, all democrats are the most corrupt people. You cannot argue with those people\nThey are living in their own fictional world based on Fox News propaganda",
">\n\nHow bout this: stop spending money our great great grandchildren hasn't made yet they will have to pay back. Potus and dems can do that...if they've got the guts",
">\n\nThe National Debt rose 7.8 trillion dollars under Trump. The debt ceiling was raised three times without confrontation, dispute, or fanfare during his term.\nRepublicans held both houses during 2 years of Trump's term. What spending did they cut?",
">\n\n3 trillion tax cut."
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Yes,it’s been this way since Ronald Raygun. No GQP voter ever noticed or cared. | [
"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda.",
">\n\nThe plan is simple\nJust threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy\nA healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances",
">\n\nUnfortunately the mindset is the worst republican is better than the best Democrat\nI have several people that has that believe, all democrats are the most corrupt people. You cannot argue with those people\nThey are living in their own fictional world based on Fox News propaganda",
">\n\nHow bout this: stop spending money our great great grandchildren hasn't made yet they will have to pay back. Potus and dems can do that...if they've got the guts",
">\n\nThe National Debt rose 7.8 trillion dollars under Trump. The debt ceiling was raised three times without confrontation, dispute, or fanfare during his term.\nRepublicans held both houses during 2 years of Trump's term. What spending did they cut?",
">\n\n3 trillion tax cut.",
">\n\nYeah, I know.\nBut they had the chance to cut spending too if they wanted, but they didn't.\nSpending wasn't an issue until the Democrats were in the WH again."
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"Why does this have to be an \"emergency\"??? They raised the debt ceiling 3 times under Trump without a peep",
">\n\nthat's a very insightful article. I had never heard of that Wanniski guy before.",
">\n\nI hadn't until recently either. I'm making it a point to make this documented strategy as visible as possible because looking back on the GOP since Nixon it's self-evident that this is the game plan going forward. The best thing democrats can do is call it out for the bullshit that it is and not cave. If it comes down to a political game of chicken Dems can't be the one to blink, and if the GOP wants to crater the economy then we better start talking loud and often now about who has been systematically planning it for a half century.",
">\n\n100%",
">\n\nAbolish the debt ceiling. We're the only country that has one and it just causes political and economic chaos.",
">\n\nAs it was designed to do",
">\n\nIt was designed to keep the us out of ww1",
">\n\nFat lot of good that did us.",
">\n\nWho, exactly, is running this shit show? It has McCarthy’s fingers prints on but it overwhelming smells like Gingrich.",
">\n\nThe entitlements are fine, once the Trump tax cuts are gone.\n\"This would not be a problem if you had not caused it on purpose.\"\nor, in the immortal words of Liz Cheney, \"You f%\\^in did this, Kevin.\"",
">\n\nYeah, it's definitely worth noting that it was the tax cuts these dipshits so eagerly passed in 2017 that ballooned the deficit that they're now so concerned about. Of course, this is literally always what Republicans fucking do. The \"Two Santas\" theory in play, as usual: run up the deficit when the Republicans are in power (by giving gigantic handouts to the wealthy and starting pointless fucking wars), then blame the Democrats for not doing enough to combat the deficit and try to sell the idea that we're \"broke\" and \"forced\" to gut Social Security and Medicare... only to then turn around and run by blaming the Democrats for gutting Social Security and Medicare.\nThe GOP is many things (manipulative, abusive, cultish, entitled, whiny, self-serving, deceptive, deceitful, craven, stupid, nihilistic, cynical, ignorant, backwards, treasonous, violent...) but it is absolutely NOT a political party: it's mostly just a haven for thieves and fools.",
">\n\nI will keep voting. But I am just defeated.\nIf these stupid fucks who voted for the Republicans to take away their ss and Medicare. They can blame democrats all they want. At the end of the day. They did this shit to themselves and will keep doing it until they have nothing left blaming us won't fix things.",
">\n\nI feel just like you do. Those stup... stup... (I'll be nice)... misguided ... people who vote Republican are ruining this country and the planet. I will keep voting also. We just can't give up.",
">\n\nPermanent emergency mode is usually a sign of a system in crisis and nearing collapse",
">\n\n\"the shock doctrine\" by Naomi klein",
">\n\nSummary of article: \nThe problem with the GOP's 'emergency' debt ceiling plan is ... \nit just won't work AND Republicans would still cause a crash.",
">\n\nI have a simple solution: make military spending a lower \"class\" than other spending, so payments stop there before anywhere else.\nSuddenly there's hundreds of billions of available money.",
">\n\nThis is payments on the debt, not current spending. There is literally no way to prioritize one payment because of the way the debt is structured. Also, the US credit rating would still take a huge hit.",
">\n\nThe problem with this plan is that it resembles their healthcare and infrastructure plans (i.e., it doesn’t exist).",
">\n\nMaybe they are just gonna bring it to the brink to crash the market so they can buy the dip.",
">\n\nCongressional insider trading is a beautiful thing. /s",
">\n\nFucking morons.",
">\n\nThey have a name for it: The Santos plan for debt celing.",
">\n\nIf Santos calls something a ceiling, you could probably hang a mirror on it with no problem.",
">\n\nThere are two: it\nIsn’t a real emergency and they have no plan.",
">\n\n\"Hi. I paid for a dinner six months ago on my credit card but I don't think I should do that any longer so I'm not gonna pay the bill.\"",
">\n\n\"unless I can kick Gramma out of her nursing home and turn schools into churches\"",
">\n\nKiss goodbye your stock value, thanks GOP",
">\n\nThey have no plan.",
">\n\nThere is a law that allows the Treasury to ask the Federal Reserve to mint platinum coins of any value for collectibles and another law that requires the Federal reserve to mint the coins which the Treasury asks for.\nI propose that there be created 78 platinum coins with the date on each of when the debt ceiling was breached and for the exact amount of the breach calculated by subtracting the proceeding breach from it. These 78 coins will be owned by the federal reserve and will cover the debt. \nAnother proposal would to create such coins every 7 years in accordance with the biblical year of jubilee where everyone forgives the debts of everyone, again minted with date and amount spreading out over the 49 times republican presidents raised it and the 29 times democratic presidents raised it.\nIt might hopefully even satisfy the religious right's need to blur the line between church and state.",
">\n\nI think just going with jubilee would help so much. House prices would be realistic if banks knew you only got 7 years before they had to wipe the debt. But for such a system to work it'd have to be adopted world wide.\nThen there are the implications of loss. So you lose a substantial amount due to clearing of debts - does that sink everything you've got? \nIf everyone is on board you don't even have to go crazy with the minting. \nOh well pipe dreams.",
">\n\nI genuinely believe we are going over the cliff this time.",
">\n\nIt will be fine it is just more republican rage theater. If they didn’t creat a crisis they would have no power at all. It’s all just show like clowns in a circus.",
">\n\nI genuinely don’t know why people think everything will just be fine in perpetuity with these radical destructionists taking a wrench to the levers of power. \nHistory has many examples of when radicals push things too far and systems completely collapse. Just playing with the debt ceiling as a negotiating tactic puts us all at risk, and since January 6, it’s even harder for me to call Republican rage “theater”. \nThere are real consequences to taking apart the American system of government.",
">\n\nDidn't congress just pass a trillion dollar omnibus bill that was approved by both parties? Now 1 side says we spend too much?",
">\n\nThis isn't even about spending.",
">\n\nHmmmm, it's might be a tin foil hat theory, but can it be that some GOP polititians are bought by Putin and/or China? Feels like they will be the only one who benifit from this chaos.",
">\n\nOh big woop, who cares. Ceiling will rise as always. Government can owe trillions and just extend that debt indefinitely. Meanwhile, if I'm a day late paying my electric bill I accrue late fees and sit in the dark. Fuckin' pricks.",
">\n\nI mean, to be fair, you don't have a standing army.....",
">\n\nIs there any way to have recall elections of representatives before 2024?",
">\n\nNo. Only way to remove a sitting house member is by expulsion from the House which requires a 2/3rds vote of House members.\nIts also why there's likely no fucking way Santos is gone before 1/3/2025.",
">\n\nIf he ends up behind bars he can't vote under current rules. He's useless then and the gop can claim bipartisanship, time it right and there might not be time for a replacement.",
">\n\nJust to make sure, these are the same rules that can be basically changed on 24 hours notice by the GOP, as they'll have the majority in the house and on the House Rules Committee correct?\nIt would be unprecedented bullshit, but then again that started with Mitch \"The Next President Should Pick the Next Justice unless he's likely to be a Democrat\" McConnell.\n(I specify 24 hours notice as the mechanism in place requires a 2/3rds majority if the Special Rule is to be accepted the same day it comes out of committee and is filed in the House.)",
">\n\nThe problem is its already been solved and this is a complete horse and pony show.",
">\n\n\"We control the purse, you can't cancel student loan debts!\"\n\"We don't control the purse, the White House needs to decide what debts to pay!\"",
">\n\nAccording to the Repubs' debt emergency plan............\nthey want to fund the creditors while suspending payments to medicare, social security, etc.\nIn other words, pay off Chinese, Japanese, Russian, and Saudi rich bond buyers BEFORE they ever give a damn dime to American seniors who paid into the system their whole lives.\nHey Repubs....let's see how that works out for ya, you think?",
">\n\nGOP just want the Hunter Biden Laptop. That’s all that matters.",
">\n\nThe GQP is a terrorist organization, holding the global economy hostage for their own political agenda.",
">\n\nThe plan is simple\nJust threatened to burn the entire economy to the ground unless the Democrats remove spending to actually benefits the American people and the American economy\nA healthy economy in 2024 would not be good for the Republican's election chances",
">\n\nUnfortunately the mindset is the worst republican is better than the best Democrat\nI have several people that has that believe, all democrats are the most corrupt people. You cannot argue with those people\nThey are living in their own fictional world based on Fox News propaganda",
">\n\nHow bout this: stop spending money our great great grandchildren hasn't made yet they will have to pay back. Potus and dems can do that...if they've got the guts",
">\n\nThe National Debt rose 7.8 trillion dollars under Trump. The debt ceiling was raised three times without confrontation, dispute, or fanfare during his term.\nRepublicans held both houses during 2 years of Trump's term. What spending did they cut?",
">\n\n3 trillion tax cut.",
">\n\nYeah, I know.\nBut they had the chance to cut spending too if they wanted, but they didn't.\nSpending wasn't an issue until the Democrats were in the WH again.",
">\n\nYes,it’s been this way since Ronald Raygun. No GQP voter ever noticed or cared."
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They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”
Our free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.
Many present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.
The police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.
Rushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy. | [] |
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Almost like this has happened before. | [
"They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”\nOur free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.\nMany present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.\nThe police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.\nRushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy."
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What politician ever studied history?
Edit: holy shit! Does someone think I'm the dumbest bitch in the world? Put: "/s" after what I said. | [
"They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”\nOur free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.\nMany present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.\nThe police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.\nRushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy.",
">\n\n\"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.\"\nAlmost like this has happened before."
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Ironically a lot of them, it’s an extremely common background for politicians. | [
"They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”\nOur free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.\nMany present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.\nThe police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.\nRushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy.",
">\n\n\"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.\"\nAlmost like this has happened before.",
">\n\nWhat politician ever studied history?\nEdit: holy shit! Does someone think I'm the dumbest bitch in the world? Put: \"/s\" after what I said."
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I know. How did someone not think I was being sarcastic? | [
"They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”\nOur free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.\nMany present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.\nThe police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.\nRushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy.",
">\n\n\"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.\"\nAlmost like this has happened before.",
">\n\nWhat politician ever studied history?\nEdit: holy shit! Does someone think I'm the dumbest bitch in the world? Put: \"/s\" after what I said.",
">\n\nIronically a lot of them, it’s an extremely common background for politicians."
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My dude, it’s the internet, there are absolutely people that dumb around here | [
"They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”\nOur free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.\nMany present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.\nThe police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.\nRushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy.",
">\n\n\"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.\"\nAlmost like this has happened before.",
">\n\nWhat politician ever studied history?\nEdit: holy shit! Does someone think I'm the dumbest bitch in the world? Put: \"/s\" after what I said.",
">\n\nIronically a lot of them, it’s an extremely common background for politicians.",
">\n\nI know. How did someone not think I was being sarcastic?"
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I know, but I don't want to accept it. | [
"They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”\nOur free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.\nMany present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.\nThe police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.\nRushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy.",
">\n\n\"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.\"\nAlmost like this has happened before.",
">\n\nWhat politician ever studied history?\nEdit: holy shit! Does someone think I'm the dumbest bitch in the world? Put: \"/s\" after what I said.",
">\n\nIronically a lot of them, it’s an extremely common background for politicians.",
">\n\nI know. How did someone not think I was being sarcastic?",
">\n\nMy dude, it’s the internet, there are absolutely people that dumb around here"
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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. - George Carlin | [
"They're doing the same to legitimate Union strike action. “We cannot have protests conducted by a small minority disrupting the lives of the ordinary public. It’s not acceptable and we’re going to bring it to an end.”\nOur free and democratic society exists because of protest and strike action.\nMany present and past members of the House of Lords have participated in quite extreme protest and strikes, or have acted as lawyers to free the same. Including Nelson Mandela's lawyer.\nThe police already have suitable powers and have not asked for their powers to be strengthened.\nRushi Sunak and Suella Braverman are a threat to these legitimate freedoms and thus democracy.",
">\n\n\"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.\"\nAlmost like this has happened before.",
">\n\nWhat politician ever studied history?\nEdit: holy shit! Does someone think I'm the dumbest bitch in the world? Put: \"/s\" after what I said.",
">\n\nIronically a lot of them, it’s an extremely common background for politicians.",
">\n\nI know. How did someone not think I was being sarcastic?",
">\n\nMy dude, it’s the internet, there are absolutely people that dumb around here",
">\n\nI know, but I don't want to accept it."
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