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[ "He didn't actually get those committee seats, he just put them on his resume...\n/S", ">\n\nDouble dicked him!", ">\n\nWell given all his Nobel Prizes and the fact that he’s CEO of so many Fortune 500 companies that only makes sense.", ">\n\nHe’s also the only Super Bowl winning President to visit Jupiter’s surface.", ">\n\nAnd his cure for cancer also solved world hunger, take that liberal media.", ">\n\nHe's the current and future mayor of space.\nThat's one the libs never like to admit.", ">\n\nMakes sense, considering the amount of respect Republicans have for both small business owners and science.", ">\n\nThe biggest of fucking oofs. Amazingly", ">\n\nJust so pathetic. Republicans still have majority in the house so this is the easiest softball to throw to look at least a LITTLE responsible and they can’t even do that. Was keeping him on one of those secret conditions Kevin had to make to win Speaker?", ">\n\nBy the end of that shit show I'm sure Kevin was agreeing to just about anything to get it done. Which is why Gaetz and MTG will have the shiniest most well licked boots in the chamber for the next couple years", ">\n\nThis is what happens when you make a Minion the Speaker of the House. \nFYI: Liz Truss only lasted 6 weeks in the UK. I don’t think Kevin will make it that long.", ">\n\nSeems like this happens every time the republicans take the house. Didn't Paul Ryan go through this too? At the very least McCarthy is gonna be in for some \"fun\" when he pisses off the establishment to cater to MTG while trying to pretend that he's not doing so", ">\n\nWhat’s he going to do when he has to choose between the businesses that fund his reelection and a raving lunatic?", ">\n\nThis is so typical of the GOP's rejection of science and reason.\nCalling them the idiocracy is actually an insult to idiocrats.", ">\n\nAn idiot cannot fathom reason. Republicans hate and sabotage reason.", ">\n\nHe's a master of the science of lying and the business of fraud.", ">\n\nI’d argue he’s more of a novice considering how exposed he is but still funny 😅", ">\n\nfaked those qualifications too", ">\n\nAh, Republicans! So brazen in their corruption. They glory in it like a dog rolling in shit.", ">\n\nRepublicans don’t give the slightest shit about the country.", ">\n\nJust when you think they couldn't sink any lower...", ">\n\nI never think that.", ">\n\nDitto", ">\n\nSICKENING. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. SOCIOPATHS AND CRIMINALS have taken over the country.", ">\n\nWell he did invent the internet so that makes sense.", ">\n\nI've heard he invented science too.", ">\n\nI heard he beat science in a wrestling match.", ">\n\nI heard he invented wrestling.", ">\n\nHe's been wrestling with the truth for so long he can't even remember what his actual name is.", ">\n\nThey should send him on a fact finding mission to Brazil. Brazil might have some sort of official business to share with him when he lands, like a free stay at a government facility.", ">\n\nThis is nothing, just wait until DeSantis gets into the oval office. We're fucked!", ">\n\nYup, they think science and religion are the same, just a bunch of lies—no wonder they award the seat to the professional liar.", ">\n\nI’m not the type that goes around wanting to punch people, but every picture of this guy immediately sets off my “that guy needs to be punched in the face” alarm. Picture doesn’t need a caption or anything.", ">\n\nMay I present to you one of the most awesome and perfect words in the German language? “Backpfeifengesicht.” Google it — you’ll love it.", ">\n\nWe're about 3 weeks from the GOP pretending that none of this controversy even happened. Oh, to be living in a post-truth era, ain't it grand.", ">\n\nAs a career Federal Employee, I am 110% certain that if I were to have fabricated even a quarter of what Santos has fabricated, and was found out, that I would no longer be a Federal Employee.", ">\n\noh did somebody think Republicans had shame?\nGrover norquist and Ronald Reagan told you about how they wanted to destroy the federal government. why are the American people so stupid that they think these goons will act in good faith for the country's interest...\nI would say we lucked out that the people that wanted to destroy the government are so stupid but as it turns out there's still considerably smarter than most of the country.", ">\n\nYou think they are going to look into ethics violations?\nThey literally just muzzled the committee so it is now harder to enforce. They made it easier to get away with shit. Because they know they are about to do some shady ass shit!", ">\n\nIf the lying congressman can scam his donors out of a condo in Brazil & an undisclosed $750,000.00 he clearly belongs on the Big Business committee...", ">\n\nSome reports say his donor knew exactly who he was giving money too.", ">\n\nWell he did invent science and business so it makes sense", ">\n\nGood thing they axed the ethics committee.", ">\n\nI'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion for this, but here it goes: in Republican politics, these are the committee assignments for someone you want to go away. They are meaningless committees that will do very little and--more importantly--are difficult to fundraise from.\nAs other committee assignments are finalized, keep an eye out for what other committees members of Space, Science, and Technology (SST) and Small Business serve on. Sure, a member might be appointed to SST, but they might also be on Financial Services or Energy and Commerce; huge committees with massive fundraising potential. Santos, on the other hand, bagged two of the worst committee assignments that a Republican can pull.\nI know to the uninitiated, being assigned to the \"Science Committee\" makes it look like a serial liar is going to have oversight of all science in the country, but this is one of the most insignificant committees in Congress. And until the Ethics Committee comes up with a good reason to boot him off of committees and out of Congress, the Speaker has to put him somewhere.", ">\n\nThey gutted the ethics committee as well.\nThe fact that they can't even denounce this lying sack of shit shows how corrupt the GOP has become. \nI don't care how insignificant the committee is. They've accepted him into their ranks and again have shown there is literally no bottom for these grifters.", ">\n\nAnd Margie trailerpark Green is on homeland security and oversight…I’m going to tune out a while. This is just fucking dark.", ">\n\nIt was the only way to get Santos to share his arc reactor technology with the United States.", ">\n\nHow is our country supposed to come out of this without destroying itself first?", ">\n\nTypical.", ">\n\nIt makes sense I've heard he won the Nobel Prize in both Chemistry and Economics.", ">\n\nHis near-constant smirk is slowly forcing his mug towards the top of my Most Punchable Faces list.", ">\n\nWell he invented microbiology so he should be on the science committee. He just needs to be on intelligence committees as well given his extensive experience as a secret agent.", ">\n\nWhat does one have to do to lose all credibility? I don't think there's a bottom. Of course there is the obvious bottom in this scenario.", ">\n\nwhy", ">\n\nPoliticians are shitting on the US population lol", ">\n\nDon't both sides this. These are Republicans shitting on us.", ">\n\nI totally agree, Republicans are literally scum but honestly they're all complicit at this point.", ">\n\nthe science of bullshit", ">\n\nOnly people to blame are the voters who vote for this party", ">\n\nThis.", ">\n\nSay what you will, but the man's qualified. Have you even read his resume? The man invented OXYGEN", ">\n\nOnce again the republicans show their collective integrity", ">\n\nAs a small business owner I look forward to his help. Like how can I turn a small remodel contracting business into a pyramid scheme?", ">\n\nI guess that tells us how much the new speaker values science.", ">\n\nA shining example for generations to come", ">\n\nI suspect this move is tantamount to putting him out to pasture. How much do the GOP care about science? That's how important this appointment is.", ">\n\nI would say it's a move to make sure no one takes the science committee seriously and they can just keep pushing anti-intellectual nonsense.", ">\n\nI love it.\nPut the dude who’s about to get indicted front and center.\nIndependent voters love it.", ">\n\nIndicted for what? Didn’t they say they didn’t know what he could be charged for? And McCarthy said they are going to gut the ethics office, so doubt anything will come from that direction.", ">\n\nWhat are the odds that he is not even a US citizen?", ">\n\nScience? SCIENCE??!! Who in their right mind????", ">\n\nYea let’s spread the dumb fuck around.", ">\n\nWaiting on a rep with a murder record", ">\n\nAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if some murder accusation came out about this dude and he still doesn't get removed.", ">\n\nLie. Cheat. Steal.", ">\n\nHe's a Scient-ist.", ">\n\nNo more spots on the Volley-Ball committee?", ">\n\nGrifter, liar, conman pos", ">\n\nThey're really hanging it out there, hanging out a sign that says \"grifters and utter buttholes welcome here!\"", ">\n\nI guess the \"Lying Motherfuckers Committee\" was all full.", ">\n\nHe's so awesome that Kim Jong-il killed himself because he couldn't match the awesomeness.", ">\n\nAre they even serious with this bullshit? What am I saying? Of course they are. Fuck.", ">\n\nWhy? Did he cure cancer? AIDS?", ">\n\nHe actually invented a potion that prevents death but drives a hard bargain", ">\n\nMcCarthy the shrewd business man.", ">\n\nPutin must be laughing at the attention his schmuck is getting .", ">\n\n“Embattled” is one way to describe him, I guess", ">\n\nAfter George W. Bush was re-elected to a second term nothing and everything else that followed that up until today, this seems perfectly in order..", ">\n\nNBC spelled “fraudulent” wrong again. Must be a hangover from the 2016-2020 vacation from reality.", ">\n\nHow?!!!", ">\n\nI read that he invented science.", ">\n\nCONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM\nThe Science, Space and Technology Committee has 41 seats and the Small Business Committee has 27 seats. He will be lost inside those committees. They will not seek his guidance, or opinion, or anything. He'll just text and fart all day", ">\n\nIt's so encouraging that he's successfully defeated voters so blatantly.", ">\n\nSo Russian mafia funding him is also working the Conservative leadership, got it.", ">\n\nAny time the headline calls you ‘embattled’ you know you’re fucked.", ">\n\nThe grift must flow.", ">\n\nInsane...", ">\n\nSure, because lying scumbag is just what you need in science.", ">\n\nFfs", ">\n\nNot really accurate to say he's embattled. He has a vote.", ">\n\nThis is how you lose a seat next cycle. The campaign ad options are a green field. I’d start airing hilarious 5 second sitcom style bits where this douchebag lies about something new every week on Saturday evening. You could get A list talent for free. He’s a disgrace, and deserves to be humiliated for as long as he continues with this nonsense. Every second he spends in Washington is an insult to every soldier who fought and died for this country.", ">\n\nTIL astronomical lying qualifies you as a space expert", ">\n\nWell, he was the first person to walk on the surface of Mars, so there's that.", ">\n\nI knew not to trust the science…😝", ">\n\nShameful.", ">\n\nWhat will Republicans do for the next year? Block anything worthwhile, I'm sure, but are they going to not actually pass anything that affects people then blame the democrats to get voted in again? We've needed term limits since Ceaser.", ">\n\nDidn’t he also get assigned a babysitter?", ">\n\nLies", ">\n\nThe only thing this motherfucker should be awarded is a swift kick to his nads and a couple of years in the slammer.", ">\n\nBarf.", ">\n\nLooks like the demands to resign were mostly for show." ]

[ "He didn't actually get those committee seats, he just put them on his resume...\n/S", ">\n\nDouble dicked him!", ">\n\nWell given all his Nobel Prizes and the fact that he’s CEO of so many Fortune 500 companies that only makes sense.", ">\n\nHe’s also the only Super Bowl winning President to visit Jupiter’s surface.", ">\n\nAnd his cure for cancer also solved world hunger, take that liberal media.", ">\n\nHe's the current and future mayor of space.\nThat's one the libs never like to admit.", ">\n\nMakes sense, considering the amount of respect Republicans have for both small business owners and science.", ">\n\nThe biggest of fucking oofs. Amazingly", ">\n\nJust so pathetic. Republicans still have majority in the house so this is the easiest softball to throw to look at least a LITTLE responsible and they can’t even do that. Was keeping him on one of those secret conditions Kevin had to make to win Speaker?", ">\n\nBy the end of that shit show I'm sure Kevin was agreeing to just about anything to get it done. Which is why Gaetz and MTG will have the shiniest most well licked boots in the chamber for the next couple years", ">\n\nThis is what happens when you make a Minion the Speaker of the House. \nFYI: Liz Truss only lasted 6 weeks in the UK. I don’t think Kevin will make it that long.", ">\n\nSeems like this happens every time the republicans take the house. Didn't Paul Ryan go through this too? At the very least McCarthy is gonna be in for some \"fun\" when he pisses off the establishment to cater to MTG while trying to pretend that he's not doing so", ">\n\nWhat’s he going to do when he has to choose between the businesses that fund his reelection and a raving lunatic?", ">\n\nThis is so typical of the GOP's rejection of science and reason.\nCalling them the idiocracy is actually an insult to idiocrats.", ">\n\nAn idiot cannot fathom reason. Republicans hate and sabotage reason.", ">\n\nHe's a master of the science of lying and the business of fraud.", ">\n\nI’d argue he’s more of a novice considering how exposed he is but still funny 😅", ">\n\nfaked those qualifications too", ">\n\nAh, Republicans! So brazen in their corruption. They glory in it like a dog rolling in shit.", ">\n\nRepublicans don’t give the slightest shit about the country.", ">\n\nJust when you think they couldn't sink any lower...", ">\n\nI never think that.", ">\n\nDitto", ">\n\nSICKENING. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. SOCIOPATHS AND CRIMINALS have taken over the country.", ">\n\nWell he did invent the internet so that makes sense.", ">\n\nI've heard he invented science too.", ">\n\nI heard he beat science in a wrestling match.", ">\n\nI heard he invented wrestling.", ">\n\nHe's been wrestling with the truth for so long he can't even remember what his actual name is.", ">\n\nThey should send him on a fact finding mission to Brazil. Brazil might have some sort of official business to share with him when he lands, like a free stay at a government facility.", ">\n\nThis is nothing, just wait until DeSantis gets into the oval office. We're fucked!", ">\n\nYup, they think science and religion are the same, just a bunch of lies—no wonder they award the seat to the professional liar.", ">\n\nI’m not the type that goes around wanting to punch people, but every picture of this guy immediately sets off my “that guy needs to be punched in the face” alarm. Picture doesn’t need a caption or anything.", ">\n\nMay I present to you one of the most awesome and perfect words in the German language? “Backpfeifengesicht.” Google it — you’ll love it.", ">\n\nWe're about 3 weeks from the GOP pretending that none of this controversy even happened. Oh, to be living in a post-truth era, ain't it grand.", ">\n\nAs a career Federal Employee, I am 110% certain that if I were to have fabricated even a quarter of what Santos has fabricated, and was found out, that I would no longer be a Federal Employee.", ">\n\noh did somebody think Republicans had shame?\nGrover norquist and Ronald Reagan told you about how they wanted to destroy the federal government. why are the American people so stupid that they think these goons will act in good faith for the country's interest...\nI would say we lucked out that the people that wanted to destroy the government are so stupid but as it turns out there's still considerably smarter than most of the country.", ">\n\nYou think they are going to look into ethics violations?\nThey literally just muzzled the committee so it is now harder to enforce. They made it easier to get away with shit. Because they know they are about to do some shady ass shit!", ">\n\nIf the lying congressman can scam his donors out of a condo in Brazil & an undisclosed $750,000.00 he clearly belongs on the Big Business committee...", ">\n\nSome reports say his donor knew exactly who he was giving money too.", ">\n\nWell he did invent science and business so it makes sense", ">\n\nGood thing they axed the ethics committee.", ">\n\nI'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion for this, but here it goes: in Republican politics, these are the committee assignments for someone you want to go away. They are meaningless committees that will do very little and--more importantly--are difficult to fundraise from.\nAs other committee assignments are finalized, keep an eye out for what other committees members of Space, Science, and Technology (SST) and Small Business serve on. Sure, a member might be appointed to SST, but they might also be on Financial Services or Energy and Commerce; huge committees with massive fundraising potential. Santos, on the other hand, bagged two of the worst committee assignments that a Republican can pull.\nI know to the uninitiated, being assigned to the \"Science Committee\" makes it look like a serial liar is going to have oversight of all science in the country, but this is one of the most insignificant committees in Congress. And until the Ethics Committee comes up with a good reason to boot him off of committees and out of Congress, the Speaker has to put him somewhere.", ">\n\nThey gutted the ethics committee as well.\nThe fact that they can't even denounce this lying sack of shit shows how corrupt the GOP has become. \nI don't care how insignificant the committee is. They've accepted him into their ranks and again have shown there is literally no bottom for these grifters.", ">\n\nAnd Margie trailerpark Green is on homeland security and oversight…I’m going to tune out a while. This is just fucking dark.", ">\n\nIt was the only way to get Santos to share his arc reactor technology with the United States.", ">\n\nHow is our country supposed to come out of this without destroying itself first?", ">\n\nTypical.", ">\n\nIt makes sense I've heard he won the Nobel Prize in both Chemistry and Economics.", ">\n\nHis near-constant smirk is slowly forcing his mug towards the top of my Most Punchable Faces list.", ">\n\nWell he invented microbiology so he should be on the science committee. He just needs to be on intelligence committees as well given his extensive experience as a secret agent.", ">\n\nWhat does one have to do to lose all credibility? I don't think there's a bottom. Of course there is the obvious bottom in this scenario.", ">\n\nwhy", ">\n\nPoliticians are shitting on the US population lol", ">\n\nDon't both sides this. These are Republicans shitting on us.", ">\n\nI totally agree, Republicans are literally scum but honestly they're all complicit at this point.", ">\n\nthe science of bullshit", ">\n\nOnly people to blame are the voters who vote for this party", ">\n\nThis.", ">\n\nSay what you will, but the man's qualified. Have you even read his resume? The man invented OXYGEN", ">\n\nOnce again the republicans show their collective integrity", ">\n\nAs a small business owner I look forward to his help. Like how can I turn a small remodel contracting business into a pyramid scheme?", ">\n\nI guess that tells us how much the new speaker values science.", ">\n\nA shining example for generations to come", ">\n\nI suspect this move is tantamount to putting him out to pasture. How much do the GOP care about science? That's how important this appointment is.", ">\n\nI would say it's a move to make sure no one takes the science committee seriously and they can just keep pushing anti-intellectual nonsense.", ">\n\nI love it.\nPut the dude who’s about to get indicted front and center.\nIndependent voters love it.", ">\n\nIndicted for what? Didn’t they say they didn’t know what he could be charged for? And McCarthy said they are going to gut the ethics office, so doubt anything will come from that direction.", ">\n\nWhat are the odds that he is not even a US citizen?", ">\n\nScience? SCIENCE??!! Who in their right mind????", ">\n\nYea let’s spread the dumb fuck around.", ">\n\nWaiting on a rep with a murder record", ">\n\nAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if some murder accusation came out about this dude and he still doesn't get removed.", ">\n\nLie. Cheat. Steal.", ">\n\nHe's a Scient-ist.", ">\n\nNo more spots on the Volley-Ball committee?", ">\n\nGrifter, liar, conman pos", ">\n\nThey're really hanging it out there, hanging out a sign that says \"grifters and utter buttholes welcome here!\"", ">\n\nI guess the \"Lying Motherfuckers Committee\" was all full.", ">\n\nHe's so awesome that Kim Jong-il killed himself because he couldn't match the awesomeness.", ">\n\nAre they even serious with this bullshit? What am I saying? Of course they are. Fuck.", ">\n\nWhy? Did he cure cancer? AIDS?", ">\n\nHe actually invented a potion that prevents death but drives a hard bargain", ">\n\nMcCarthy the shrewd business man.", ">\n\nPutin must be laughing at the attention his schmuck is getting .", ">\n\n“Embattled” is one way to describe him, I guess", ">\n\nAfter George W. Bush was re-elected to a second term nothing and everything else that followed that up until today, this seems perfectly in order..", ">\n\nNBC spelled “fraudulent” wrong again. Must be a hangover from the 2016-2020 vacation from reality.", ">\n\nHow?!!!", ">\n\nI read that he invented science.", ">\n\nCONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM\nThe Science, Space and Technology Committee has 41 seats and the Small Business Committee has 27 seats. He will be lost inside those committees. They will not seek his guidance, or opinion, or anything. He'll just text and fart all day", ">\n\nIt's so encouraging that he's successfully defeated voters so blatantly.", ">\n\nSo Russian mafia funding him is also working the Conservative leadership, got it.", ">\n\nAny time the headline calls you ‘embattled’ you know you’re fucked.", ">\n\nThe grift must flow.", ">\n\nInsane...", ">\n\nSure, because lying scumbag is just what you need in science.", ">\n\nFfs", ">\n\nNot really accurate to say he's embattled. He has a vote.", ">\n\nThis is how you lose a seat next cycle. The campaign ad options are a green field. I’d start airing hilarious 5 second sitcom style bits where this douchebag lies about something new every week on Saturday evening. You could get A list talent for free. He’s a disgrace, and deserves to be humiliated for as long as he continues with this nonsense. Every second he spends in Washington is an insult to every soldier who fought and died for this country.", ">\n\nTIL astronomical lying qualifies you as a space expert", ">\n\nWell, he was the first person to walk on the surface of Mars, so there's that.", ">\n\nI knew not to trust the science…😝", ">\n\nShameful.", ">\n\nWhat will Republicans do for the next year? Block anything worthwhile, I'm sure, but are they going to not actually pass anything that affects people then blame the democrats to get voted in again? We've needed term limits since Ceaser.", ">\n\nDidn’t he also get assigned a babysitter?", ">\n\nLies", ">\n\nThe only thing this motherfucker should be awarded is a swift kick to his nads and a couple of years in the slammer.", ">\n\nBarf.", ">\n\nLooks like the demands to resign were mostly for show.", ">\n\n“I’m somewhat of a scientist myself.” - Santos, probably" ]

[ "He didn't actually get those committee seats, he just put them on his resume...\n/S", ">\n\nDouble dicked him!", ">\n\nWell given all his Nobel Prizes and the fact that he’s CEO of so many Fortune 500 companies that only makes sense.", ">\n\nHe’s also the only Super Bowl winning President to visit Jupiter’s surface.", ">\n\nAnd his cure for cancer also solved world hunger, take that liberal media.", ">\n\nHe's the current and future mayor of space.\nThat's one the libs never like to admit.", ">\n\nMakes sense, considering the amount of respect Republicans have for both small business owners and science.", ">\n\nThe biggest of fucking oofs. Amazingly", ">\n\nJust so pathetic. Republicans still have majority in the house so this is the easiest softball to throw to look at least a LITTLE responsible and they can’t even do that. Was keeping him on one of those secret conditions Kevin had to make to win Speaker?", ">\n\nBy the end of that shit show I'm sure Kevin was agreeing to just about anything to get it done. Which is why Gaetz and MTG will have the shiniest most well licked boots in the chamber for the next couple years", ">\n\nThis is what happens when you make a Minion the Speaker of the House. \nFYI: Liz Truss only lasted 6 weeks in the UK. I don’t think Kevin will make it that long.", ">\n\nSeems like this happens every time the republicans take the house. Didn't Paul Ryan go through this too? At the very least McCarthy is gonna be in for some \"fun\" when he pisses off the establishment to cater to MTG while trying to pretend that he's not doing so", ">\n\nWhat’s he going to do when he has to choose between the businesses that fund his reelection and a raving lunatic?", ">\n\nThis is so typical of the GOP's rejection of science and reason.\nCalling them the idiocracy is actually an insult to idiocrats.", ">\n\nAn idiot cannot fathom reason. Republicans hate and sabotage reason.", ">\n\nHe's a master of the science of lying and the business of fraud.", ">\n\nI’d argue he’s more of a novice considering how exposed he is but still funny 😅", ">\n\nfaked those qualifications too", ">\n\nAh, Republicans! So brazen in their corruption. They glory in it like a dog rolling in shit.", ">\n\nRepublicans don’t give the slightest shit about the country.", ">\n\nJust when you think they couldn't sink any lower...", ">\n\nI never think that.", ">\n\nDitto", ">\n\nSICKENING. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. SOCIOPATHS AND CRIMINALS have taken over the country.", ">\n\nWell he did invent the internet so that makes sense.", ">\n\nI've heard he invented science too.", ">\n\nI heard he beat science in a wrestling match.", ">\n\nI heard he invented wrestling.", ">\n\nHe's been wrestling with the truth for so long he can't even remember what his actual name is.", ">\n\nThey should send him on a fact finding mission to Brazil. Brazil might have some sort of official business to share with him when he lands, like a free stay at a government facility.", ">\n\nThis is nothing, just wait until DeSantis gets into the oval office. We're fucked!", ">\n\nYup, they think science and religion are the same, just a bunch of lies—no wonder they award the seat to the professional liar.", ">\n\nI’m not the type that goes around wanting to punch people, but every picture of this guy immediately sets off my “that guy needs to be punched in the face” alarm. Picture doesn’t need a caption or anything.", ">\n\nMay I present to you one of the most awesome and perfect words in the German language? “Backpfeifengesicht.” Google it — you’ll love it.", ">\n\nWe're about 3 weeks from the GOP pretending that none of this controversy even happened. Oh, to be living in a post-truth era, ain't it grand.", ">\n\nAs a career Federal Employee, I am 110% certain that if I were to have fabricated even a quarter of what Santos has fabricated, and was found out, that I would no longer be a Federal Employee.", ">\n\noh did somebody think Republicans had shame?\nGrover norquist and Ronald Reagan told you about how they wanted to destroy the federal government. why are the American people so stupid that they think these goons will act in good faith for the country's interest...\nI would say we lucked out that the people that wanted to destroy the government are so stupid but as it turns out there's still considerably smarter than most of the country.", ">\n\nYou think they are going to look into ethics violations?\nThey literally just muzzled the committee so it is now harder to enforce. They made it easier to get away with shit. Because they know they are about to do some shady ass shit!", ">\n\nIf the lying congressman can scam his donors out of a condo in Brazil & an undisclosed $750,000.00 he clearly belongs on the Big Business committee...", ">\n\nSome reports say his donor knew exactly who he was giving money too.", ">\n\nWell he did invent science and business so it makes sense", ">\n\nGood thing they axed the ethics committee.", ">\n\nI'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion for this, but here it goes: in Republican politics, these are the committee assignments for someone you want to go away. They are meaningless committees that will do very little and--more importantly--are difficult to fundraise from.\nAs other committee assignments are finalized, keep an eye out for what other committees members of Space, Science, and Technology (SST) and Small Business serve on. Sure, a member might be appointed to SST, but they might also be on Financial Services or Energy and Commerce; huge committees with massive fundraising potential. Santos, on the other hand, bagged two of the worst committee assignments that a Republican can pull.\nI know to the uninitiated, being assigned to the \"Science Committee\" makes it look like a serial liar is going to have oversight of all science in the country, but this is one of the most insignificant committees in Congress. And until the Ethics Committee comes up with a good reason to boot him off of committees and out of Congress, the Speaker has to put him somewhere.", ">\n\nThey gutted the ethics committee as well.\nThe fact that they can't even denounce this lying sack of shit shows how corrupt the GOP has become. \nI don't care how insignificant the committee is. They've accepted him into their ranks and again have shown there is literally no bottom for these grifters.", ">\n\nAnd Margie trailerpark Green is on homeland security and oversight…I’m going to tune out a while. This is just fucking dark.", ">\n\nIt was the only way to get Santos to share his arc reactor technology with the United States.", ">\n\nHow is our country supposed to come out of this without destroying itself first?", ">\n\nTypical.", ">\n\nIt makes sense I've heard he won the Nobel Prize in both Chemistry and Economics.", ">\n\nHis near-constant smirk is slowly forcing his mug towards the top of my Most Punchable Faces list.", ">\n\nWell he invented microbiology so he should be on the science committee. He just needs to be on intelligence committees as well given his extensive experience as a secret agent.", ">\n\nWhat does one have to do to lose all credibility? I don't think there's a bottom. Of course there is the obvious bottom in this scenario.", ">\n\nwhy", ">\n\nPoliticians are shitting on the US population lol", ">\n\nDon't both sides this. These are Republicans shitting on us.", ">\n\nI totally agree, Republicans are literally scum but honestly they're all complicit at this point.", ">\n\nthe science of bullshit", ">\n\nOnly people to blame are the voters who vote for this party", ">\n\nThis.", ">\n\nSay what you will, but the man's qualified. Have you even read his resume? The man invented OXYGEN", ">\n\nOnce again the republicans show their collective integrity", ">\n\nAs a small business owner I look forward to his help. Like how can I turn a small remodel contracting business into a pyramid scheme?", ">\n\nI guess that tells us how much the new speaker values science.", ">\n\nA shining example for generations to come", ">\n\nI suspect this move is tantamount to putting him out to pasture. How much do the GOP care about science? That's how important this appointment is.", ">\n\nI would say it's a move to make sure no one takes the science committee seriously and they can just keep pushing anti-intellectual nonsense.", ">\n\nI love it.\nPut the dude who’s about to get indicted front and center.\nIndependent voters love it.", ">\n\nIndicted for what? Didn’t they say they didn’t know what he could be charged for? And McCarthy said they are going to gut the ethics office, so doubt anything will come from that direction.", ">\n\nWhat are the odds that he is not even a US citizen?", ">\n\nScience? SCIENCE??!! Who in their right mind????", ">\n\nYea let’s spread the dumb fuck around.", ">\n\nWaiting on a rep with a murder record", ">\n\nAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if some murder accusation came out about this dude and he still doesn't get removed.", ">\n\nLie. Cheat. Steal.", ">\n\nHe's a Scient-ist.", ">\n\nNo more spots on the Volley-Ball committee?", ">\n\nGrifter, liar, conman pos", ">\n\nThey're really hanging it out there, hanging out a sign that says \"grifters and utter buttholes welcome here!\"", ">\n\nI guess the \"Lying Motherfuckers Committee\" was all full.", ">\n\nHe's so awesome that Kim Jong-il killed himself because he couldn't match the awesomeness.", ">\n\nAre they even serious with this bullshit? What am I saying? Of course they are. Fuck.", ">\n\nWhy? Did he cure cancer? AIDS?", ">\n\nHe actually invented a potion that prevents death but drives a hard bargain", ">\n\nMcCarthy the shrewd business man.", ">\n\nPutin must be laughing at the attention his schmuck is getting .", ">\n\n“Embattled” is one way to describe him, I guess", ">\n\nAfter George W. Bush was re-elected to a second term nothing and everything else that followed that up until today, this seems perfectly in order..", ">\n\nNBC spelled “fraudulent” wrong again. Must be a hangover from the 2016-2020 vacation from reality.", ">\n\nHow?!!!", ">\n\nI read that he invented science.", ">\n\nCONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM\nThe Science, Space and Technology Committee has 41 seats and the Small Business Committee has 27 seats. He will be lost inside those committees. They will not seek his guidance, or opinion, or anything. He'll just text and fart all day", ">\n\nIt's so encouraging that he's successfully defeated voters so blatantly.", ">\n\nSo Russian mafia funding him is also working the Conservative leadership, got it.", ">\n\nAny time the headline calls you ‘embattled’ you know you’re fucked.", ">\n\nThe grift must flow.", ">\n\nInsane...", ">\n\nSure, because lying scumbag is just what you need in science.", ">\n\nFfs", ">\n\nNot really accurate to say he's embattled. He has a vote.", ">\n\nThis is how you lose a seat next cycle. The campaign ad options are a green field. I’d start airing hilarious 5 second sitcom style bits where this douchebag lies about something new every week on Saturday evening. You could get A list talent for free. He’s a disgrace, and deserves to be humiliated for as long as he continues with this nonsense. Every second he spends in Washington is an insult to every soldier who fought and died for this country.", ">\n\nTIL astronomical lying qualifies you as a space expert", ">\n\nWell, he was the first person to walk on the surface of Mars, so there's that.", ">\n\nI knew not to trust the science…😝", ">\n\nShameful.", ">\n\nWhat will Republicans do for the next year? Block anything worthwhile, I'm sure, but are they going to not actually pass anything that affects people then blame the democrats to get voted in again? We've needed term limits since Ceaser.", ">\n\nDidn’t he also get assigned a babysitter?", ">\n\nLies", ">\n\nThe only thing this motherfucker should be awarded is a swift kick to his nads and a couple of years in the slammer.", ">\n\nBarf.", ">\n\nLooks like the demands to resign were mostly for show.", ">\n\n“I’m somewhat of a scientist myself.” - Santos, probably", ">\n\nJesus, Mary, and Joseph." ]

[ "He didn't actually get those committee seats, he just put them on his resume...\n/S", ">\n\nDouble dicked him!", ">\n\nWell given all his Nobel Prizes and the fact that he’s CEO of so many Fortune 500 companies that only makes sense.", ">\n\nHe’s also the only Super Bowl winning President to visit Jupiter’s surface.", ">\n\nAnd his cure for cancer also solved world hunger, take that liberal media.", ">\n\nHe's the current and future mayor of space.\nThat's one the libs never like to admit.", ">\n\nMakes sense, considering the amount of respect Republicans have for both small business owners and science.", ">\n\nThe biggest of fucking oofs. Amazingly", ">\n\nJust so pathetic. Republicans still have majority in the house so this is the easiest softball to throw to look at least a LITTLE responsible and they can’t even do that. Was keeping him on one of those secret conditions Kevin had to make to win Speaker?", ">\n\nBy the end of that shit show I'm sure Kevin was agreeing to just about anything to get it done. Which is why Gaetz and MTG will have the shiniest most well licked boots in the chamber for the next couple years", ">\n\nThis is what happens when you make a Minion the Speaker of the House. \nFYI: Liz Truss only lasted 6 weeks in the UK. I don’t think Kevin will make it that long.", ">\n\nSeems like this happens every time the republicans take the house. Didn't Paul Ryan go through this too? At the very least McCarthy is gonna be in for some \"fun\" when he pisses off the establishment to cater to MTG while trying to pretend that he's not doing so", ">\n\nWhat’s he going to do when he has to choose between the businesses that fund his reelection and a raving lunatic?", ">\n\nThis is so typical of the GOP's rejection of science and reason.\nCalling them the idiocracy is actually an insult to idiocrats.", ">\n\nAn idiot cannot fathom reason. Republicans hate and sabotage reason.", ">\n\nHe's a master of the science of lying and the business of fraud.", ">\n\nI’d argue he’s more of a novice considering how exposed he is but still funny 😅", ">\n\nfaked those qualifications too", ">\n\nAh, Republicans! So brazen in their corruption. They glory in it like a dog rolling in shit.", ">\n\nRepublicans don’t give the slightest shit about the country.", ">\n\nJust when you think they couldn't sink any lower...", ">\n\nI never think that.", ">\n\nDitto", ">\n\nSICKENING. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. SOCIOPATHS AND CRIMINALS have taken over the country.", ">\n\nWell he did invent the internet so that makes sense.", ">\n\nI've heard he invented science too.", ">\n\nI heard he beat science in a wrestling match.", ">\n\nI heard he invented wrestling.", ">\n\nHe's been wrestling with the truth for so long he can't even remember what his actual name is.", ">\n\nThey should send him on a fact finding mission to Brazil. Brazil might have some sort of official business to share with him when he lands, like a free stay at a government facility.", ">\n\nThis is nothing, just wait until DeSantis gets into the oval office. We're fucked!", ">\n\nYup, they think science and religion are the same, just a bunch of lies—no wonder they award the seat to the professional liar.", ">\n\nI’m not the type that goes around wanting to punch people, but every picture of this guy immediately sets off my “that guy needs to be punched in the face” alarm. Picture doesn’t need a caption or anything.", ">\n\nMay I present to you one of the most awesome and perfect words in the German language? “Backpfeifengesicht.” Google it — you’ll love it.", ">\n\nWe're about 3 weeks from the GOP pretending that none of this controversy even happened. Oh, to be living in a post-truth era, ain't it grand.", ">\n\nAs a career Federal Employee, I am 110% certain that if I were to have fabricated even a quarter of what Santos has fabricated, and was found out, that I would no longer be a Federal Employee.", ">\n\noh did somebody think Republicans had shame?\nGrover norquist and Ronald Reagan told you about how they wanted to destroy the federal government. why are the American people so stupid that they think these goons will act in good faith for the country's interest...\nI would say we lucked out that the people that wanted to destroy the government are so stupid but as it turns out there's still considerably smarter than most of the country.", ">\n\nYou think they are going to look into ethics violations?\nThey literally just muzzled the committee so it is now harder to enforce. They made it easier to get away with shit. Because they know they are about to do some shady ass shit!", ">\n\nIf the lying congressman can scam his donors out of a condo in Brazil & an undisclosed $750,000.00 he clearly belongs on the Big Business committee...", ">\n\nSome reports say his donor knew exactly who he was giving money too.", ">\n\nWell he did invent science and business so it makes sense", ">\n\nGood thing they axed the ethics committee.", ">\n\nI'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion for this, but here it goes: in Republican politics, these are the committee assignments for someone you want to go away. They are meaningless committees that will do very little and--more importantly--are difficult to fundraise from.\nAs other committee assignments are finalized, keep an eye out for what other committees members of Space, Science, and Technology (SST) and Small Business serve on. Sure, a member might be appointed to SST, but they might also be on Financial Services or Energy and Commerce; huge committees with massive fundraising potential. Santos, on the other hand, bagged two of the worst committee assignments that a Republican can pull.\nI know to the uninitiated, being assigned to the \"Science Committee\" makes it look like a serial liar is going to have oversight of all science in the country, but this is one of the most insignificant committees in Congress. And until the Ethics Committee comes up with a good reason to boot him off of committees and out of Congress, the Speaker has to put him somewhere.", ">\n\nThey gutted the ethics committee as well.\nThe fact that they can't even denounce this lying sack of shit shows how corrupt the GOP has become. \nI don't care how insignificant the committee is. They've accepted him into their ranks and again have shown there is literally no bottom for these grifters.", ">\n\nAnd Margie trailerpark Green is on homeland security and oversight…I’m going to tune out a while. This is just fucking dark.", ">\n\nIt was the only way to get Santos to share his arc reactor technology with the United States.", ">\n\nHow is our country supposed to come out of this without destroying itself first?", ">\n\nTypical.", ">\n\nIt makes sense I've heard he won the Nobel Prize in both Chemistry and Economics.", ">\n\nHis near-constant smirk is slowly forcing his mug towards the top of my Most Punchable Faces list.", ">\n\nWell he invented microbiology so he should be on the science committee. He just needs to be on intelligence committees as well given his extensive experience as a secret agent.", ">\n\nWhat does one have to do to lose all credibility? I don't think there's a bottom. Of course there is the obvious bottom in this scenario.", ">\n\nwhy", ">\n\nPoliticians are shitting on the US population lol", ">\n\nDon't both sides this. These are Republicans shitting on us.", ">\n\nI totally agree, Republicans are literally scum but honestly they're all complicit at this point.", ">\n\nthe science of bullshit", ">\n\nOnly people to blame are the voters who vote for this party", ">\n\nThis.", ">\n\nSay what you will, but the man's qualified. Have you even read his resume? The man invented OXYGEN", ">\n\nOnce again the republicans show their collective integrity", ">\n\nAs a small business owner I look forward to his help. Like how can I turn a small remodel contracting business into a pyramid scheme?", ">\n\nI guess that tells us how much the new speaker values science.", ">\n\nA shining example for generations to come", ">\n\nI suspect this move is tantamount to putting him out to pasture. How much do the GOP care about science? That's how important this appointment is.", ">\n\nI would say it's a move to make sure no one takes the science committee seriously and they can just keep pushing anti-intellectual nonsense.", ">\n\nI love it.\nPut the dude who’s about to get indicted front and center.\nIndependent voters love it.", ">\n\nIndicted for what? Didn’t they say they didn’t know what he could be charged for? And McCarthy said they are going to gut the ethics office, so doubt anything will come from that direction.", ">\n\nWhat are the odds that he is not even a US citizen?", ">\n\nScience? SCIENCE??!! Who in their right mind????", ">\n\nYea let’s spread the dumb fuck around.", ">\n\nWaiting on a rep with a murder record", ">\n\nAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if some murder accusation came out about this dude and he still doesn't get removed.", ">\n\nLie. Cheat. Steal.", ">\n\nHe's a Scient-ist.", ">\n\nNo more spots on the Volley-Ball committee?", ">\n\nGrifter, liar, conman pos", ">\n\nThey're really hanging it out there, hanging out a sign that says \"grifters and utter buttholes welcome here!\"", ">\n\nI guess the \"Lying Motherfuckers Committee\" was all full.", ">\n\nHe's so awesome that Kim Jong-il killed himself because he couldn't match the awesomeness.", ">\n\nAre they even serious with this bullshit? What am I saying? Of course they are. Fuck.", ">\n\nWhy? Did he cure cancer? AIDS?", ">\n\nHe actually invented a potion that prevents death but drives a hard bargain", ">\n\nMcCarthy the shrewd business man.", ">\n\nPutin must be laughing at the attention his schmuck is getting .", ">\n\n“Embattled” is one way to describe him, I guess", ">\n\nAfter George W. Bush was re-elected to a second term nothing and everything else that followed that up until today, this seems perfectly in order..", ">\n\nNBC spelled “fraudulent” wrong again. Must be a hangover from the 2016-2020 vacation from reality.", ">\n\nHow?!!!", ">\n\nI read that he invented science.", ">\n\nCONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM\nThe Science, Space and Technology Committee has 41 seats and the Small Business Committee has 27 seats. He will be lost inside those committees. They will not seek his guidance, or opinion, or anything. He'll just text and fart all day", ">\n\nIt's so encouraging that he's successfully defeated voters so blatantly.", ">\n\nSo Russian mafia funding him is also working the Conservative leadership, got it.", ">\n\nAny time the headline calls you ‘embattled’ you know you’re fucked.", ">\n\nThe grift must flow.", ">\n\nInsane...", ">\n\nSure, because lying scumbag is just what you need in science.", ">\n\nFfs", ">\n\nNot really accurate to say he's embattled. He has a vote.", ">\n\nThis is how you lose a seat next cycle. The campaign ad options are a green field. I’d start airing hilarious 5 second sitcom style bits where this douchebag lies about something new every week on Saturday evening. You could get A list talent for free. He’s a disgrace, and deserves to be humiliated for as long as he continues with this nonsense. Every second he spends in Washington is an insult to every soldier who fought and died for this country.", ">\n\nTIL astronomical lying qualifies you as a space expert", ">\n\nWell, he was the first person to walk on the surface of Mars, so there's that.", ">\n\nI knew not to trust the science…😝", ">\n\nShameful.", ">\n\nWhat will Republicans do for the next year? Block anything worthwhile, I'm sure, but are they going to not actually pass anything that affects people then blame the democrats to get voted in again? We've needed term limits since Ceaser.", ">\n\nDidn’t he also get assigned a babysitter?", ">\n\nLies", ">\n\nThe only thing this motherfucker should be awarded is a swift kick to his nads and a couple of years in the slammer.", ">\n\nBarf.", ">\n\nLooks like the demands to resign were mostly for show.", ">\n\n“I’m somewhat of a scientist myself.” - Santos, probably", ">\n\nJesus, Mary, and Joseph.", ">\n\nGod I hate this so much, every facet of his seat and the fact he hasn’t been booted yesterday" ]

[ "He didn't actually get those committee seats, he just put them on his resume...\n/S", ">\n\nDouble dicked him!", ">\n\nWell given all his Nobel Prizes and the fact that he’s CEO of so many Fortune 500 companies that only makes sense.", ">\n\nHe’s also the only Super Bowl winning President to visit Jupiter’s surface.", ">\n\nAnd his cure for cancer also solved world hunger, take that liberal media.", ">\n\nHe's the current and future mayor of space.\nThat's one the libs never like to admit.", ">\n\nMakes sense, considering the amount of respect Republicans have for both small business owners and science.", ">\n\nThe biggest of fucking oofs. Amazingly", ">\n\nJust so pathetic. Republicans still have majority in the house so this is the easiest softball to throw to look at least a LITTLE responsible and they can’t even do that. Was keeping him on one of those secret conditions Kevin had to make to win Speaker?", ">\n\nBy the end of that shit show I'm sure Kevin was agreeing to just about anything to get it done. Which is why Gaetz and MTG will have the shiniest most well licked boots in the chamber for the next couple years", ">\n\nThis is what happens when you make a Minion the Speaker of the House. \nFYI: Liz Truss only lasted 6 weeks in the UK. I don’t think Kevin will make it that long.", ">\n\nSeems like this happens every time the republicans take the house. Didn't Paul Ryan go through this too? At the very least McCarthy is gonna be in for some \"fun\" when he pisses off the establishment to cater to MTG while trying to pretend that he's not doing so", ">\n\nWhat’s he going to do when he has to choose between the businesses that fund his reelection and a raving lunatic?", ">\n\nThis is so typical of the GOP's rejection of science and reason.\nCalling them the idiocracy is actually an insult to idiocrats.", ">\n\nAn idiot cannot fathom reason. Republicans hate and sabotage reason.", ">\n\nHe's a master of the science of lying and the business of fraud.", ">\n\nI’d argue he’s more of a novice considering how exposed he is but still funny 😅", ">\n\nfaked those qualifications too", ">\n\nAh, Republicans! So brazen in their corruption. They glory in it like a dog rolling in shit.", ">\n\nRepublicans don’t give the slightest shit about the country.", ">\n\nJust when you think they couldn't sink any lower...", ">\n\nI never think that.", ">\n\nDitto", ">\n\nSICKENING. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. SOCIOPATHS AND CRIMINALS have taken over the country.", ">\n\nWell he did invent the internet so that makes sense.", ">\n\nI've heard he invented science too.", ">\n\nI heard he beat science in a wrestling match.", ">\n\nI heard he invented wrestling.", ">\n\nHe's been wrestling with the truth for so long he can't even remember what his actual name is.", ">\n\nThey should send him on a fact finding mission to Brazil. Brazil might have some sort of official business to share with him when he lands, like a free stay at a government facility.", ">\n\nThis is nothing, just wait until DeSantis gets into the oval office. We're fucked!", ">\n\nYup, they think science and religion are the same, just a bunch of lies—no wonder they award the seat to the professional liar.", ">\n\nI’m not the type that goes around wanting to punch people, but every picture of this guy immediately sets off my “that guy needs to be punched in the face” alarm. Picture doesn’t need a caption or anything.", ">\n\nMay I present to you one of the most awesome and perfect words in the German language? “Backpfeifengesicht.” Google it — you’ll love it.", ">\n\nWe're about 3 weeks from the GOP pretending that none of this controversy even happened. Oh, to be living in a post-truth era, ain't it grand.", ">\n\nAs a career Federal Employee, I am 110% certain that if I were to have fabricated even a quarter of what Santos has fabricated, and was found out, that I would no longer be a Federal Employee.", ">\n\noh did somebody think Republicans had shame?\nGrover norquist and Ronald Reagan told you about how they wanted to destroy the federal government. why are the American people so stupid that they think these goons will act in good faith for the country's interest...\nI would say we lucked out that the people that wanted to destroy the government are so stupid but as it turns out there's still considerably smarter than most of the country.", ">\n\nYou think they are going to look into ethics violations?\nThey literally just muzzled the committee so it is now harder to enforce. They made it easier to get away with shit. Because they know they are about to do some shady ass shit!", ">\n\nIf the lying congressman can scam his donors out of a condo in Brazil & an undisclosed $750,000.00 he clearly belongs on the Big Business committee...", ">\n\nSome reports say his donor knew exactly who he was giving money too.", ">\n\nWell he did invent science and business so it makes sense", ">\n\nGood thing they axed the ethics committee.", ">\n\nI'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion for this, but here it goes: in Republican politics, these are the committee assignments for someone you want to go away. They are meaningless committees that will do very little and--more importantly--are difficult to fundraise from.\nAs other committee assignments are finalized, keep an eye out for what other committees members of Space, Science, and Technology (SST) and Small Business serve on. Sure, a member might be appointed to SST, but they might also be on Financial Services or Energy and Commerce; huge committees with massive fundraising potential. Santos, on the other hand, bagged two of the worst committee assignments that a Republican can pull.\nI know to the uninitiated, being assigned to the \"Science Committee\" makes it look like a serial liar is going to have oversight of all science in the country, but this is one of the most insignificant committees in Congress. And until the Ethics Committee comes up with a good reason to boot him off of committees and out of Congress, the Speaker has to put him somewhere.", ">\n\nThey gutted the ethics committee as well.\nThe fact that they can't even denounce this lying sack of shit shows how corrupt the GOP has become. \nI don't care how insignificant the committee is. They've accepted him into their ranks and again have shown there is literally no bottom for these grifters.", ">\n\nAnd Margie trailerpark Green is on homeland security and oversight…I’m going to tune out a while. This is just fucking dark.", ">\n\nIt was the only way to get Santos to share his arc reactor technology with the United States.", ">\n\nHow is our country supposed to come out of this without destroying itself first?", ">\n\nTypical.", ">\n\nIt makes sense I've heard he won the Nobel Prize in both Chemistry and Economics.", ">\n\nHis near-constant smirk is slowly forcing his mug towards the top of my Most Punchable Faces list.", ">\n\nWell he invented microbiology so he should be on the science committee. He just needs to be on intelligence committees as well given his extensive experience as a secret agent.", ">\n\nWhat does one have to do to lose all credibility? I don't think there's a bottom. Of course there is the obvious bottom in this scenario.", ">\n\nwhy", ">\n\nPoliticians are shitting on the US population lol", ">\n\nDon't both sides this. These are Republicans shitting on us.", ">\n\nI totally agree, Republicans are literally scum but honestly they're all complicit at this point.", ">\n\nthe science of bullshit", ">\n\nOnly people to blame are the voters who vote for this party", ">\n\nThis.", ">\n\nSay what you will, but the man's qualified. Have you even read his resume? The man invented OXYGEN", ">\n\nOnce again the republicans show their collective integrity", ">\n\nAs a small business owner I look forward to his help. Like how can I turn a small remodel contracting business into a pyramid scheme?", ">\n\nI guess that tells us how much the new speaker values science.", ">\n\nA shining example for generations to come", ">\n\nI suspect this move is tantamount to putting him out to pasture. How much do the GOP care about science? That's how important this appointment is.", ">\n\nI would say it's a move to make sure no one takes the science committee seriously and they can just keep pushing anti-intellectual nonsense.", ">\n\nI love it.\nPut the dude who’s about to get indicted front and center.\nIndependent voters love it.", ">\n\nIndicted for what? Didn’t they say they didn’t know what he could be charged for? And McCarthy said they are going to gut the ethics office, so doubt anything will come from that direction.", ">\n\nWhat are the odds that he is not even a US citizen?", ">\n\nScience? SCIENCE??!! Who in their right mind????", ">\n\nYea let’s spread the dumb fuck around.", ">\n\nWaiting on a rep with a murder record", ">\n\nAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if some murder accusation came out about this dude and he still doesn't get removed.", ">\n\nLie. Cheat. Steal.", ">\n\nHe's a Scient-ist.", ">\n\nNo more spots on the Volley-Ball committee?", ">\n\nGrifter, liar, conman pos", ">\n\nThey're really hanging it out there, hanging out a sign that says \"grifters and utter buttholes welcome here!\"", ">\n\nI guess the \"Lying Motherfuckers Committee\" was all full.", ">\n\nHe's so awesome that Kim Jong-il killed himself because he couldn't match the awesomeness.", ">\n\nAre they even serious with this bullshit? What am I saying? Of course they are. Fuck.", ">\n\nWhy? Did he cure cancer? AIDS?", ">\n\nHe actually invented a potion that prevents death but drives a hard bargain", ">\n\nMcCarthy the shrewd business man.", ">\n\nPutin must be laughing at the attention his schmuck is getting .", ">\n\n“Embattled” is one way to describe him, I guess", ">\n\nAfter George W. Bush was re-elected to a second term nothing and everything else that followed that up until today, this seems perfectly in order..", ">\n\nNBC spelled “fraudulent” wrong again. Must be a hangover from the 2016-2020 vacation from reality.", ">\n\nHow?!!!", ">\n\nI read that he invented science.", ">\n\nCONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM\nThe Science, Space and Technology Committee has 41 seats and the Small Business Committee has 27 seats. He will be lost inside those committees. They will not seek his guidance, or opinion, or anything. He'll just text and fart all day", ">\n\nIt's so encouraging that he's successfully defeated voters so blatantly.", ">\n\nSo Russian mafia funding him is also working the Conservative leadership, got it.", ">\n\nAny time the headline calls you ‘embattled’ you know you’re fucked.", ">\n\nThe grift must flow.", ">\n\nInsane...", ">\n\nSure, because lying scumbag is just what you need in science.", ">\n\nFfs", ">\n\nNot really accurate to say he's embattled. He has a vote.", ">\n\nThis is how you lose a seat next cycle. The campaign ad options are a green field. I’d start airing hilarious 5 second sitcom style bits where this douchebag lies about something new every week on Saturday evening. You could get A list talent for free. He’s a disgrace, and deserves to be humiliated for as long as he continues with this nonsense. Every second he spends in Washington is an insult to every soldier who fought and died for this country.", ">\n\nTIL astronomical lying qualifies you as a space expert", ">\n\nWell, he was the first person to walk on the surface of Mars, so there's that.", ">\n\nI knew not to trust the science…😝", ">\n\nShameful.", ">\n\nWhat will Republicans do for the next year? Block anything worthwhile, I'm sure, but are they going to not actually pass anything that affects people then blame the democrats to get voted in again? We've needed term limits since Ceaser.", ">\n\nDidn’t he also get assigned a babysitter?", ">\n\nLies", ">\n\nThe only thing this motherfucker should be awarded is a swift kick to his nads and a couple of years in the slammer.", ">\n\nBarf.", ">\n\nLooks like the demands to resign were mostly for show.", ">\n\n“I’m somewhat of a scientist myself.” - Santos, probably", ">\n\nJesus, Mary, and Joseph.", ">\n\nGod I hate this so much, every facet of his seat and the fact he hasn’t been booted yesterday", ">\n\n“You know, I’m something of a scientist myself.”" ]

[ "He didn't actually get those committee seats, he just put them on his resume...\n/S", ">\n\nDouble dicked him!", ">\n\nWell given all his Nobel Prizes and the fact that he’s CEO of so many Fortune 500 companies that only makes sense.", ">\n\nHe’s also the only Super Bowl winning President to visit Jupiter’s surface.", ">\n\nAnd his cure for cancer also solved world hunger, take that liberal media.", ">\n\nHe's the current and future mayor of space.\nThat's one the libs never like to admit.", ">\n\nMakes sense, considering the amount of respect Republicans have for both small business owners and science.", ">\n\nThe biggest of fucking oofs. Amazingly", ">\n\nJust so pathetic. Republicans still have majority in the house so this is the easiest softball to throw to look at least a LITTLE responsible and they can’t even do that. Was keeping him on one of those secret conditions Kevin had to make to win Speaker?", ">\n\nBy the end of that shit show I'm sure Kevin was agreeing to just about anything to get it done. Which is why Gaetz and MTG will have the shiniest most well licked boots in the chamber for the next couple years", ">\n\nThis is what happens when you make a Minion the Speaker of the House. \nFYI: Liz Truss only lasted 6 weeks in the UK. I don’t think Kevin will make it that long.", ">\n\nSeems like this happens every time the republicans take the house. Didn't Paul Ryan go through this too? At the very least McCarthy is gonna be in for some \"fun\" when he pisses off the establishment to cater to MTG while trying to pretend that he's not doing so", ">\n\nWhat’s he going to do when he has to choose between the businesses that fund his reelection and a raving lunatic?", ">\n\nThis is so typical of the GOP's rejection of science and reason.\nCalling them the idiocracy is actually an insult to idiocrats.", ">\n\nAn idiot cannot fathom reason. Republicans hate and sabotage reason.", ">\n\nHe's a master of the science of lying and the business of fraud.", ">\n\nI’d argue he’s more of a novice considering how exposed he is but still funny 😅", ">\n\nfaked those qualifications too", ">\n\nAh, Republicans! So brazen in their corruption. They glory in it like a dog rolling in shit.", ">\n\nRepublicans don’t give the slightest shit about the country.", ">\n\nJust when you think they couldn't sink any lower...", ">\n\nI never think that.", ">\n\nDitto", ">\n\nSICKENING. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. SOCIOPATHS AND CRIMINALS have taken over the country.", ">\n\nWell he did invent the internet so that makes sense.", ">\n\nI've heard he invented science too.", ">\n\nI heard he beat science in a wrestling match.", ">\n\nI heard he invented wrestling.", ">\n\nHe's been wrestling with the truth for so long he can't even remember what his actual name is.", ">\n\nThey should send him on a fact finding mission to Brazil. Brazil might have some sort of official business to share with him when he lands, like a free stay at a government facility.", ">\n\nThis is nothing, just wait until DeSantis gets into the oval office. We're fucked!", ">\n\nYup, they think science and religion are the same, just a bunch of lies—no wonder they award the seat to the professional liar.", ">\n\nI’m not the type that goes around wanting to punch people, but every picture of this guy immediately sets off my “that guy needs to be punched in the face” alarm. Picture doesn’t need a caption or anything.", ">\n\nMay I present to you one of the most awesome and perfect words in the German language? “Backpfeifengesicht.” Google it — you’ll love it.", ">\n\nWe're about 3 weeks from the GOP pretending that none of this controversy even happened. Oh, to be living in a post-truth era, ain't it grand.", ">\n\nAs a career Federal Employee, I am 110% certain that if I were to have fabricated even a quarter of what Santos has fabricated, and was found out, that I would no longer be a Federal Employee.", ">\n\noh did somebody think Republicans had shame?\nGrover norquist and Ronald Reagan told you about how they wanted to destroy the federal government. why are the American people so stupid that they think these goons will act in good faith for the country's interest...\nI would say we lucked out that the people that wanted to destroy the government are so stupid but as it turns out there's still considerably smarter than most of the country.", ">\n\nYou think they are going to look into ethics violations?\nThey literally just muzzled the committee so it is now harder to enforce. They made it easier to get away with shit. Because they know they are about to do some shady ass shit!", ">\n\nIf the lying congressman can scam his donors out of a condo in Brazil & an undisclosed $750,000.00 he clearly belongs on the Big Business committee...", ">\n\nSome reports say his donor knew exactly who he was giving money too.", ">\n\nWell he did invent science and business so it makes sense", ">\n\nGood thing they axed the ethics committee.", ">\n\nI'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion for this, but here it goes: in Republican politics, these are the committee assignments for someone you want to go away. They are meaningless committees that will do very little and--more importantly--are difficult to fundraise from.\nAs other committee assignments are finalized, keep an eye out for what other committees members of Space, Science, and Technology (SST) and Small Business serve on. Sure, a member might be appointed to SST, but they might also be on Financial Services or Energy and Commerce; huge committees with massive fundraising potential. Santos, on the other hand, bagged two of the worst committee assignments that a Republican can pull.\nI know to the uninitiated, being assigned to the \"Science Committee\" makes it look like a serial liar is going to have oversight of all science in the country, but this is one of the most insignificant committees in Congress. And until the Ethics Committee comes up with a good reason to boot him off of committees and out of Congress, the Speaker has to put him somewhere.", ">\n\nThey gutted the ethics committee as well.\nThe fact that they can't even denounce this lying sack of shit shows how corrupt the GOP has become. \nI don't care how insignificant the committee is. They've accepted him into their ranks and again have shown there is literally no bottom for these grifters.", ">\n\nAnd Margie trailerpark Green is on homeland security and oversight…I’m going to tune out a while. This is just fucking dark.", ">\n\nIt was the only way to get Santos to share his arc reactor technology with the United States.", ">\n\nHow is our country supposed to come out of this without destroying itself first?", ">\n\nTypical.", ">\n\nIt makes sense I've heard he won the Nobel Prize in both Chemistry and Economics.", ">\n\nHis near-constant smirk is slowly forcing his mug towards the top of my Most Punchable Faces list.", ">\n\nWell he invented microbiology so he should be on the science committee. He just needs to be on intelligence committees as well given his extensive experience as a secret agent.", ">\n\nWhat does one have to do to lose all credibility? I don't think there's a bottom. Of course there is the obvious bottom in this scenario.", ">\n\nwhy", ">\n\nPoliticians are shitting on the US population lol", ">\n\nDon't both sides this. These are Republicans shitting on us.", ">\n\nI totally agree, Republicans are literally scum but honestly they're all complicit at this point.", ">\n\nthe science of bullshit", ">\n\nOnly people to blame are the voters who vote for this party", ">\n\nThis.", ">\n\nSay what you will, but the man's qualified. Have you even read his resume? The man invented OXYGEN", ">\n\nOnce again the republicans show their collective integrity", ">\n\nAs a small business owner I look forward to his help. Like how can I turn a small remodel contracting business into a pyramid scheme?", ">\n\nI guess that tells us how much the new speaker values science.", ">\n\nA shining example for generations to come", ">\n\nI suspect this move is tantamount to putting him out to pasture. How much do the GOP care about science? That's how important this appointment is.", ">\n\nI would say it's a move to make sure no one takes the science committee seriously and they can just keep pushing anti-intellectual nonsense.", ">\n\nI love it.\nPut the dude who’s about to get indicted front and center.\nIndependent voters love it.", ">\n\nIndicted for what? Didn’t they say they didn’t know what he could be charged for? And McCarthy said they are going to gut the ethics office, so doubt anything will come from that direction.", ">\n\nWhat are the odds that he is not even a US citizen?", ">\n\nScience? SCIENCE??!! Who in their right mind????", ">\n\nYea let’s spread the dumb fuck around.", ">\n\nWaiting on a rep with a murder record", ">\n\nAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if some murder accusation came out about this dude and he still doesn't get removed.", ">\n\nLie. Cheat. Steal.", ">\n\nHe's a Scient-ist.", ">\n\nNo more spots on the Volley-Ball committee?", ">\n\nGrifter, liar, conman pos", ">\n\nThey're really hanging it out there, hanging out a sign that says \"grifters and utter buttholes welcome here!\"", ">\n\nI guess the \"Lying Motherfuckers Committee\" was all full.", ">\n\nHe's so awesome that Kim Jong-il killed himself because he couldn't match the awesomeness.", ">\n\nAre they even serious with this bullshit? What am I saying? Of course they are. Fuck.", ">\n\nWhy? Did he cure cancer? AIDS?", ">\n\nHe actually invented a potion that prevents death but drives a hard bargain", ">\n\nMcCarthy the shrewd business man.", ">\n\nPutin must be laughing at the attention his schmuck is getting .", ">\n\n“Embattled” is one way to describe him, I guess", ">\n\nAfter George W. Bush was re-elected to a second term nothing and everything else that followed that up until today, this seems perfectly in order..", ">\n\nNBC spelled “fraudulent” wrong again. Must be a hangover from the 2016-2020 vacation from reality.", ">\n\nHow?!!!", ">\n\nI read that he invented science.", ">\n\nCONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM\nThe Science, Space and Technology Committee has 41 seats and the Small Business Committee has 27 seats. He will be lost inside those committees. They will not seek his guidance, or opinion, or anything. He'll just text and fart all day", ">\n\nIt's so encouraging that he's successfully defeated voters so blatantly.", ">\n\nSo Russian mafia funding him is also working the Conservative leadership, got it.", ">\n\nAny time the headline calls you ‘embattled’ you know you’re fucked.", ">\n\nThe grift must flow.", ">\n\nInsane...", ">\n\nSure, because lying scumbag is just what you need in science.", ">\n\nFfs", ">\n\nNot really accurate to say he's embattled. He has a vote.", ">\n\nThis is how you lose a seat next cycle. The campaign ad options are a green field. I’d start airing hilarious 5 second sitcom style bits where this douchebag lies about something new every week on Saturday evening. You could get A list talent for free. He’s a disgrace, and deserves to be humiliated for as long as he continues with this nonsense. Every second he spends in Washington is an insult to every soldier who fought and died for this country.", ">\n\nTIL astronomical lying qualifies you as a space expert", ">\n\nWell, he was the first person to walk on the surface of Mars, so there's that.", ">\n\nI knew not to trust the science…😝", ">\n\nShameful.", ">\n\nWhat will Republicans do for the next year? Block anything worthwhile, I'm sure, but are they going to not actually pass anything that affects people then blame the democrats to get voted in again? We've needed term limits since Ceaser.", ">\n\nDidn’t he also get assigned a babysitter?", ">\n\nLies", ">\n\nThe only thing this motherfucker should be awarded is a swift kick to his nads and a couple of years in the slammer.", ">\n\nBarf.", ">\n\nLooks like the demands to resign were mostly for show.", ">\n\n“I’m somewhat of a scientist myself.” - Santos, probably", ">\n\nJesus, Mary, and Joseph.", ">\n\nGod I hate this so much, every facet of his seat and the fact he hasn’t been booted yesterday", ">\n\n“You know, I’m something of a scientist myself.”", ">\n\nHis smirk pisses me off" ]

[ "He didn't actually get those committee seats, he just put them on his resume...\n/S", ">\n\nDouble dicked him!", ">\n\nWell given all his Nobel Prizes and the fact that he’s CEO of so many Fortune 500 companies that only makes sense.", ">\n\nHe’s also the only Super Bowl winning President to visit Jupiter’s surface.", ">\n\nAnd his cure for cancer also solved world hunger, take that liberal media.", ">\n\nHe's the current and future mayor of space.\nThat's one the libs never like to admit.", ">\n\nMakes sense, considering the amount of respect Republicans have for both small business owners and science.", ">\n\nThe biggest of fucking oofs. Amazingly", ">\n\nJust so pathetic. Republicans still have majority in the house so this is the easiest softball to throw to look at least a LITTLE responsible and they can’t even do that. Was keeping him on one of those secret conditions Kevin had to make to win Speaker?", ">\n\nBy the end of that shit show I'm sure Kevin was agreeing to just about anything to get it done. Which is why Gaetz and MTG will have the shiniest most well licked boots in the chamber for the next couple years", ">\n\nThis is what happens when you make a Minion the Speaker of the House. \nFYI: Liz Truss only lasted 6 weeks in the UK. I don’t think Kevin will make it that long.", ">\n\nSeems like this happens every time the republicans take the house. Didn't Paul Ryan go through this too? At the very least McCarthy is gonna be in for some \"fun\" when he pisses off the establishment to cater to MTG while trying to pretend that he's not doing so", ">\n\nWhat’s he going to do when he has to choose between the businesses that fund his reelection and a raving lunatic?", ">\n\nThis is so typical of the GOP's rejection of science and reason.\nCalling them the idiocracy is actually an insult to idiocrats.", ">\n\nAn idiot cannot fathom reason. Republicans hate and sabotage reason.", ">\n\nHe's a master of the science of lying and the business of fraud.", ">\n\nI’d argue he’s more of a novice considering how exposed he is but still funny 😅", ">\n\nfaked those qualifications too", ">\n\nAh, Republicans! So brazen in their corruption. They glory in it like a dog rolling in shit.", ">\n\nRepublicans don’t give the slightest shit about the country.", ">\n\nJust when you think they couldn't sink any lower...", ">\n\nI never think that.", ">\n\nDitto", ">\n\nSICKENING. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. SOCIOPATHS AND CRIMINALS have taken over the country.", ">\n\nWell he did invent the internet so that makes sense.", ">\n\nI've heard he invented science too.", ">\n\nI heard he beat science in a wrestling match.", ">\n\nI heard he invented wrestling.", ">\n\nHe's been wrestling with the truth for so long he can't even remember what his actual name is.", ">\n\nThey should send him on a fact finding mission to Brazil. Brazil might have some sort of official business to share with him when he lands, like a free stay at a government facility.", ">\n\nThis is nothing, just wait until DeSantis gets into the oval office. We're fucked!", ">\n\nYup, they think science and religion are the same, just a bunch of lies—no wonder they award the seat to the professional liar.", ">\n\nI’m not the type that goes around wanting to punch people, but every picture of this guy immediately sets off my “that guy needs to be punched in the face” alarm. Picture doesn’t need a caption or anything.", ">\n\nMay I present to you one of the most awesome and perfect words in the German language? “Backpfeifengesicht.” Google it — you’ll love it.", ">\n\nWe're about 3 weeks from the GOP pretending that none of this controversy even happened. Oh, to be living in a post-truth era, ain't it grand.", ">\n\nAs a career Federal Employee, I am 110% certain that if I were to have fabricated even a quarter of what Santos has fabricated, and was found out, that I would no longer be a Federal Employee.", ">\n\noh did somebody think Republicans had shame?\nGrover norquist and Ronald Reagan told you about how they wanted to destroy the federal government. why are the American people so stupid that they think these goons will act in good faith for the country's interest...\nI would say we lucked out that the people that wanted to destroy the government are so stupid but as it turns out there's still considerably smarter than most of the country.", ">\n\nYou think they are going to look into ethics violations?\nThey literally just muzzled the committee so it is now harder to enforce. They made it easier to get away with shit. Because they know they are about to do some shady ass shit!", ">\n\nIf the lying congressman can scam his donors out of a condo in Brazil & an undisclosed $750,000.00 he clearly belongs on the Big Business committee...", ">\n\nSome reports say his donor knew exactly who he was giving money too.", ">\n\nWell he did invent science and business so it makes sense", ">\n\nGood thing they axed the ethics committee.", ">\n\nI'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion for this, but here it goes: in Republican politics, these are the committee assignments for someone you want to go away. They are meaningless committees that will do very little and--more importantly--are difficult to fundraise from.\nAs other committee assignments are finalized, keep an eye out for what other committees members of Space, Science, and Technology (SST) and Small Business serve on. Sure, a member might be appointed to SST, but they might also be on Financial Services or Energy and Commerce; huge committees with massive fundraising potential. Santos, on the other hand, bagged two of the worst committee assignments that a Republican can pull.\nI know to the uninitiated, being assigned to the \"Science Committee\" makes it look like a serial liar is going to have oversight of all science in the country, but this is one of the most insignificant committees in Congress. And until the Ethics Committee comes up with a good reason to boot him off of committees and out of Congress, the Speaker has to put him somewhere.", ">\n\nThey gutted the ethics committee as well.\nThe fact that they can't even denounce this lying sack of shit shows how corrupt the GOP has become. \nI don't care how insignificant the committee is. They've accepted him into their ranks and again have shown there is literally no bottom for these grifters.", ">\n\nAnd Margie trailerpark Green is on homeland security and oversight…I’m going to tune out a while. This is just fucking dark.", ">\n\nIt was the only way to get Santos to share his arc reactor technology with the United States.", ">\n\nHow is our country supposed to come out of this without destroying itself first?", ">\n\nTypical.", ">\n\nIt makes sense I've heard he won the Nobel Prize in both Chemistry and Economics.", ">\n\nHis near-constant smirk is slowly forcing his mug towards the top of my Most Punchable Faces list.", ">\n\nWell he invented microbiology so he should be on the science committee. He just needs to be on intelligence committees as well given his extensive experience as a secret agent.", ">\n\nWhat does one have to do to lose all credibility? I don't think there's a bottom. Of course there is the obvious bottom in this scenario.", ">\n\nwhy", ">\n\nPoliticians are shitting on the US population lol", ">\n\nDon't both sides this. These are Republicans shitting on us.", ">\n\nI totally agree, Republicans are literally scum but honestly they're all complicit at this point.", ">\n\nthe science of bullshit", ">\n\nOnly people to blame are the voters who vote for this party", ">\n\nThis.", ">\n\nSay what you will, but the man's qualified. Have you even read his resume? The man invented OXYGEN", ">\n\nOnce again the republicans show their collective integrity", ">\n\nAs a small business owner I look forward to his help. Like how can I turn a small remodel contracting business into a pyramid scheme?", ">\n\nI guess that tells us how much the new speaker values science.", ">\n\nA shining example for generations to come", ">\n\nI suspect this move is tantamount to putting him out to pasture. How much do the GOP care about science? That's how important this appointment is.", ">\n\nI would say it's a move to make sure no one takes the science committee seriously and they can just keep pushing anti-intellectual nonsense.", ">\n\nI love it.\nPut the dude who’s about to get indicted front and center.\nIndependent voters love it.", ">\n\nIndicted for what? Didn’t they say they didn’t know what he could be charged for? And McCarthy said they are going to gut the ethics office, so doubt anything will come from that direction.", ">\n\nWhat are the odds that he is not even a US citizen?", ">\n\nScience? SCIENCE??!! Who in their right mind????", ">\n\nYea let’s spread the dumb fuck around.", ">\n\nWaiting on a rep with a murder record", ">\n\nAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if some murder accusation came out about this dude and he still doesn't get removed.", ">\n\nLie. Cheat. Steal.", ">\n\nHe's a Scient-ist.", ">\n\nNo more spots on the Volley-Ball committee?", ">\n\nGrifter, liar, conman pos", ">\n\nThey're really hanging it out there, hanging out a sign that says \"grifters and utter buttholes welcome here!\"", ">\n\nI guess the \"Lying Motherfuckers Committee\" was all full.", ">\n\nHe's so awesome that Kim Jong-il killed himself because he couldn't match the awesomeness.", ">\n\nAre they even serious with this bullshit? What am I saying? Of course they are. Fuck.", ">\n\nWhy? Did he cure cancer? AIDS?", ">\n\nHe actually invented a potion that prevents death but drives a hard bargain", ">\n\nMcCarthy the shrewd business man.", ">\n\nPutin must be laughing at the attention his schmuck is getting .", ">\n\n“Embattled” is one way to describe him, I guess", ">\n\nAfter George W. Bush was re-elected to a second term nothing and everything else that followed that up until today, this seems perfectly in order..", ">\n\nNBC spelled “fraudulent” wrong again. Must be a hangover from the 2016-2020 vacation from reality.", ">\n\nHow?!!!", ">\n\nI read that he invented science.", ">\n\nCONGRESSIONAL RUBBER ROOM\nThe Science, Space and Technology Committee has 41 seats and the Small Business Committee has 27 seats. He will be lost inside those committees. They will not seek his guidance, or opinion, or anything. He'll just text and fart all day", ">\n\nIt's so encouraging that he's successfully defeated voters so blatantly.", ">\n\nSo Russian mafia funding him is also working the Conservative leadership, got it.", ">\n\nAny time the headline calls you ‘embattled’ you know you’re fucked.", ">\n\nThe grift must flow.", ">\n\nInsane...", ">\n\nSure, because lying scumbag is just what you need in science.", ">\n\nFfs", ">\n\nNot really accurate to say he's embattled. He has a vote.", ">\n\nThis is how you lose a seat next cycle. The campaign ad options are a green field. I’d start airing hilarious 5 second sitcom style bits where this douchebag lies about something new every week on Saturday evening. You could get A list talent for free. He’s a disgrace, and deserves to be humiliated for as long as he continues with this nonsense. Every second he spends in Washington is an insult to every soldier who fought and died for this country.", ">\n\nTIL astronomical lying qualifies you as a space expert", ">\n\nWell, he was the first person to walk on the surface of Mars, so there's that.", ">\n\nI knew not to trust the science…😝", ">\n\nShameful.", ">\n\nWhat will Republicans do for the next year? Block anything worthwhile, I'm sure, but are they going to not actually pass anything that affects people then blame the democrats to get voted in again? We've needed term limits since Ceaser.", ">\n\nDidn’t he also get assigned a babysitter?", ">\n\nLies", ">\n\nThe only thing this motherfucker should be awarded is a swift kick to his nads and a couple of years in the slammer.", ">\n\nBarf.", ">\n\nLooks like the demands to resign were mostly for show.", ">\n\n“I’m somewhat of a scientist myself.” - Santos, probably", ">\n\nJesus, Mary, and Joseph.", ">\n\nGod I hate this so much, every facet of his seat and the fact he hasn’t been booted yesterday", ">\n\n“You know, I’m something of a scientist myself.”", ">\n\nHis smirk pisses me off", ">\n\nWait someone help me out here.. he is in hot water because… he is a liar?? But… he’s a politician… isn’t that what we are slavishly forced to pay our hard-earned dollars for?? The lies?? What the hell else do they do?" ]

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[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"" ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?" ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time" ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven.", ">\n\nThere’s actually nothing you can do because it was an internal study. Get on with your life and focus on other things that actually matter." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven.", ">\n\nThere’s actually nothing you can do because it was an internal study. Get on with your life and focus on other things that actually matter.", ">\n\nI’ve *gleefully* used exxonmobil gas when their prices were the lowest. I’ve also “been aware” of climate change for virtually my entire adult life. Should I be punished as well? \nWhat does “being aware of climate change” even mean? What is the specific causal connection between Exxon’s sale of a fungible product and their incremental\nimpact on climate change? Wouldn’t shell or bp just take up that market share if exxon weren’t around? \nHave you asked the American people (this is a democracy after all) their willingness to “punish” an entity for selling them critical energy for the past several decades? Even if it would’ve meant higher gas prices for them? \nWhat cause of action do you have in mind by the way? You can’t “punish” someone unless they’ve violated a law, after all. Rule of law and all that. Is this law so poorly thought through that exxon managed to screw themselves by doing these internal studies (which apparently taught them about climate change)?\nCome on." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven.", ">\n\nThere’s actually nothing you can do because it was an internal study. Get on with your life and focus on other things that actually matter.", ">\n\nI’ve *gleefully* used exxonmobil gas when their prices were the lowest. I’ve also “been aware” of climate change for virtually my entire adult life. Should I be punished as well? \nWhat does “being aware of climate change” even mean? What is the specific causal connection between Exxon’s sale of a fungible product and their incremental\nimpact on climate change? Wouldn’t shell or bp just take up that market share if exxon weren’t around? \nHave you asked the American people (this is a democracy after all) their willingness to “punish” an entity for selling them critical energy for the past several decades? Even if it would’ve meant higher gas prices for them? \nWhat cause of action do you have in mind by the way? You can’t “punish” someone unless they’ve violated a law, after all. Rule of law and all that. Is this law so poorly thought through that exxon managed to screw themselves by doing these internal studies (which apparently taught them about climate change)?\nCome on.", ">\n\nWhat will be done about the multi-millionaires who are killing the planet. Haha. Nothing." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven.", ">\n\nThere’s actually nothing you can do because it was an internal study. Get on with your life and focus on other things that actually matter.", ">\n\nI’ve *gleefully* used exxonmobil gas when their prices were the lowest. I’ve also “been aware” of climate change for virtually my entire adult life. Should I be punished as well? \nWhat does “being aware of climate change” even mean? What is the specific causal connection between Exxon’s sale of a fungible product and their incremental\nimpact on climate change? Wouldn’t shell or bp just take up that market share if exxon weren’t around? \nHave you asked the American people (this is a democracy after all) their willingness to “punish” an entity for selling them critical energy for the past several decades? Even if it would’ve meant higher gas prices for them? \nWhat cause of action do you have in mind by the way? You can’t “punish” someone unless they’ve violated a law, after all. Rule of law and all that. Is this law so poorly thought through that exxon managed to screw themselves by doing these internal studies (which apparently taught them about climate change)?\nCome on.", ">\n\nWhat will be done about the multi-millionaires who are killing the planet. Haha. Nothing.", ">\n\nNothing should be done because all they had was speculation, just like present Climate Alarmists. There has been no definitive evidence that any of the dire predictioons have come true. Should we punish Paul Ehrlich for predicted mass starvation in the 70s that didn't happen?\nYou said, \"Exxon Mobil has lied and misdirected governments, shareholders, and the public about climate change, its trajectory, and its effects.\" So what specifically did they lie about? None of the speculation has come true. The models have been universally wrong. The catastrophic prediction of the last 50 years have also been wrong.\nThe only accurate prediction anyone has made is that CO2 levels would increase. They have increased. However, temeratures have not increased proportionally. CO2 emissions have increased 300% since 1960 yet temperatures have barely moved.\nNo one can show anywhere on earth where sea level is rising catastrophically, we still have ice in the Arctic and Antarctic, we still have roughly 400,000 glaciers, we still have snow, we still have polar bears. There is not yet evidence of changes in the global frequency or intensity of hurricanes, droughts, floods or wildfires and the number of weather related deaths is dramatically decreased. So what exactly did Exxon lie about." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven.", ">\n\nThere’s actually nothing you can do because it was an internal study. Get on with your life and focus on other things that actually matter.", ">\n\nI’ve *gleefully* used exxonmobil gas when their prices were the lowest. I’ve also “been aware” of climate change for virtually my entire adult life. Should I be punished as well? \nWhat does “being aware of climate change” even mean? What is the specific causal connection between Exxon’s sale of a fungible product and their incremental\nimpact on climate change? Wouldn’t shell or bp just take up that market share if exxon weren’t around? \nHave you asked the American people (this is a democracy after all) their willingness to “punish” an entity for selling them critical energy for the past several decades? Even if it would’ve meant higher gas prices for them? \nWhat cause of action do you have in mind by the way? You can’t “punish” someone unless they’ve violated a law, after all. Rule of law and all that. Is this law so poorly thought through that exxon managed to screw themselves by doing these internal studies (which apparently taught them about climate change)?\nCome on.", ">\n\nWhat will be done about the multi-millionaires who are killing the planet. Haha. Nothing.", ">\n\nNothing should be done because all they had was speculation, just like present Climate Alarmists. There has been no definitive evidence that any of the dire predictioons have come true. Should we punish Paul Ehrlich for predicted mass starvation in the 70s that didn't happen?\nYou said, \"Exxon Mobil has lied and misdirected governments, shareholders, and the public about climate change, its trajectory, and its effects.\" So what specifically did they lie about? None of the speculation has come true. The models have been universally wrong. The catastrophic prediction of the last 50 years have also been wrong.\nThe only accurate prediction anyone has made is that CO2 levels would increase. They have increased. However, temeratures have not increased proportionally. CO2 emissions have increased 300% since 1960 yet temperatures have barely moved.\nNo one can show anywhere on earth where sea level is rising catastrophically, we still have ice in the Arctic and Antarctic, we still have roughly 400,000 glaciers, we still have snow, we still have polar bears. There is not yet evidence of changes in the global frequency or intensity of hurricanes, droughts, floods or wildfires and the number of weather related deaths is dramatically decreased. So what exactly did Exxon lie about.", ">\n\nPredictions for major changes like that are still several decades out. The study in question was proven over time to be accurate in its predictions of warming. It's not going to be like something out of a movie though." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven.", ">\n\nThere’s actually nothing you can do because it was an internal study. Get on with your life and focus on other things that actually matter.", ">\n\nI’ve *gleefully* used exxonmobil gas when their prices were the lowest. I’ve also “been aware” of climate change for virtually my entire adult life. Should I be punished as well? \nWhat does “being aware of climate change” even mean? What is the specific causal connection between Exxon’s sale of a fungible product and their incremental\nimpact on climate change? Wouldn’t shell or bp just take up that market share if exxon weren’t around? \nHave you asked the American people (this is a democracy after all) their willingness to “punish” an entity for selling them critical energy for the past several decades? Even if it would’ve meant higher gas prices for them? \nWhat cause of action do you have in mind by the way? You can’t “punish” someone unless they’ve violated a law, after all. Rule of law and all that. Is this law so poorly thought through that exxon managed to screw themselves by doing these internal studies (which apparently taught them about climate change)?\nCome on.", ">\n\nWhat will be done about the multi-millionaires who are killing the planet. Haha. Nothing.", ">\n\nNothing should be done because all they had was speculation, just like present Climate Alarmists. There has been no definitive evidence that any of the dire predictioons have come true. Should we punish Paul Ehrlich for predicted mass starvation in the 70s that didn't happen?\nYou said, \"Exxon Mobil has lied and misdirected governments, shareholders, and the public about climate change, its trajectory, and its effects.\" So what specifically did they lie about? None of the speculation has come true. The models have been universally wrong. The catastrophic prediction of the last 50 years have also been wrong.\nThe only accurate prediction anyone has made is that CO2 levels would increase. They have increased. However, temeratures have not increased proportionally. CO2 emissions have increased 300% since 1960 yet temperatures have barely moved.\nNo one can show anywhere on earth where sea level is rising catastrophically, we still have ice in the Arctic and Antarctic, we still have roughly 400,000 glaciers, we still have snow, we still have polar bears. There is not yet evidence of changes in the global frequency or intensity of hurricanes, droughts, floods or wildfires and the number of weather related deaths is dramatically decreased. So what exactly did Exxon lie about.", ">\n\nPredictions for major changes like that are still several decades out. The study in question was proven over time to be accurate in its predictions of warming. It's not going to be like something out of a movie though.", ">\n\nProbably nothing will come of it. And to be frank, our largest energy companies are likely going to be the leaders of climate change initiatives. The Green New Deal specifically lacked funding and requires large contributions and leadership from oil and gas companies. \nSo the future is their oyster." ]

[ "For starters it's not exactly a new leak, and it's not the first time something like this has happened either. Leaded gasoline was known to be dangerous before it was even released and they pushed for it anyways. We still use it in aviation to this day as well. \nIf we don't even prosecute people in charge for things like the GM ignition switch deaths, there's little hope we'd prosecute ExxonMobil for hiding climate change studies. We need greater penalties for corporations who harm society like this but that will never happen with the modern Republican party unless Democrats gain a supermajority.", ">\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\nJets and large planes use jet fuel, not leaded gas. The twin engine Cessnas aren't really contributing much to the issue.", ">\n\n\nIt makes some degree of sense to use leaded gasoline in small engine aircraft - if something goes wrong with the engine (leaded gasoline reduces knocking) it's a whole lot worse than in a car.\n\nIt's just industry lobbying because it would be expensive to develop and test a new aircraft engine for small planes. Small engine planes are just way behind auto engines and are essentially obsolete, but the market for small engine planes is small enough that there isn't much incentive for new development.", ">\n\nYeah, it's the small market and the proliferation of older engines that won't get replaced any time soon. It's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.", ">\n\n\nIt's also such a small amount of overall fuel use that it's really not worth stressing about.\n\nI have no way of knowing how accurate this statement is. It's reasonable for me to guess that it doesn't pose a great risk to the general public but I'm not sure that it's not a risk to people who are passengers or operate small engine aircraft. I would guess there's still utility in forcing small aircraft to upgrade to modern engines.", ">\n\nThere would definitely be utility in forcing the switch, but the actual result would just be that hobbyist flying mostly ceases in the states. There's a ton of 30+ year old engines that are still operational, and it's an extremely expensive hobby. When faced with the choice between a $30k (or more) engine and scrapping the plane, there's gonna be a lot of people choosing the later.\nNot that hobbyist flying is some sort of inherent moral good or something worth preserving, either.", ">\n\nOkay, so if we can wave our magic wand to get a compromise, force the switch on new small planes and let hobbyists take their own risks with old ones?\nI realize that we're arguing about micromanagement of small risks but I hope someone is thinking about small issues like this.", ">\n\nMagic wand solutions and I'm 100% on board with it. I just don't see much point in spending billions of dollars upgrading Cessna engines when we should probably be investing that money in moving away from fossil fuels entirely elsewhere. Killing off coal will do so much more for air quality and improving health outcomes than any amount of investment in cleaning up aviation fuel standards.", ">\n\nEh, fair. I guess there's limited capital and opportunity cost. I'd hope that EPA hires economists/analysts to do analyze cost/benefit of different regulatory policy like this.", ">\n\nReminds me of the Tobacco Companies who knew that their product would kill people who used tobacco the way it was supposed to be used, and covered up that fact for decades.\nIt is a long tradition of businesses to suppress information that would hurt their bottom line.\nIn the 1920's former WWI Ace Eddie Rickenbacker formed the Rickenbacker Auto company offering an automobile with 4 wheel brakes at a time when all other cars were made with just 2 brakes on the rear wheels. The other car companies conducted a smear campaign against the Rickenbacker car, absurdly claiming that 4 brakes were unsafe, causing an abrupt stop. The Rickenbacker Car company folded and subsequently, other car companies began offering cars with 4 brakes once their inventory of 2 brake autos has sold.\nSimilar story can be told regarding asbestos and health risks.\nHere's a bit of irony from Wiki:\nIn March 2016 the Rockefeller Family Fund announced plans to \"eliminate holdings\" of ExxonMobil.[114] The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Rockefeller Family Fund both backed reports suggesting that ExxonMobil knew more about the threat of global warming than it had disclosed. David Kaiser, grandson of David Rockefeller Sr. and president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, said that the \"...company seems to be morally bankrupt.\"", ">\n\nNationalize the entire energy industry and put an extreme emphasis on eliminating fossil fuels ASAP while investing massive amounts of money (perhaps the billions we should appropriate from fossil fuel company executives past and present?) into renewable energy.", ">\n\nWe can't even get all the states to realize renewable energy is the path forward. Heck Wyoming is trying to get rid of EVs by 2035.", ">\n\nThat's why we need enforced mandates from the federal government. Climate denial is alive and well in conservative/Republcian circles. The market has had plenty of time,m. It's not moving fast enough. It needs a kick in the pants from the government. A habitable planet is at stake.", ">\n\nActually in this specific case, I think that the individuals who made these decisions as well as the companies should be punished.\nIt is difficult to overstate how many people's lives have already been ruined by the actions that these people took - why should they not be held accountable?\nIn this case, they should be held accountable for their actions. In the sense that the companies must be a) punished and prevented from doing such things again (i.e. probably disolved or taken over by the state) and b) fined with the money going to climate restructuring efforts and the people involved should be imprisoned for a length of time proportional to the crime (in this case many decades) and have their assets confiscated and turned to climate related projects.", ">\n\nThis is a reasonable answer: the people who made the decision to ignore their findings and obstruct the fight against climate change willfully made a decision that will cause hundreds of trillions of dollars in economic damages and will cost millions of humans their lives, and will make billions of people's lives worse off. They caused a very real and measurable amount of damages: in any other case people would be able to sue for those damages and win.", ">\n\nThe problem is always profitability. The concept of a community running its power development and energy production is automatically tied to a type of government that also controls its people under an iron fist. And doesn't allow them the freedom to earn money. Which is stupid. But it is also what the big corporations like EXXON have drummed into our heads to avoid their company being replaced. We need to educate people on the concept of nationalizing the energy research and production without it meaning total power I'm the hands of a boogeyman government.", ">\n\nIt's not tied to a type of government controlling people with an iron fist. We have government run services such as libraries, schools, and firefighters and they're hardly oppressive. Government agencies are only as oppressive as the government in power. Large private corporations are almost universally exploitative because the only thing that matters is profit.", ">\n\nThere's such a myopic obsession with negative rights in the US that's hard to get people to break away from. \nOnce the government stops interfering in peoples' personal lives, the assumption is that everything else is fine and everybody is free. We have so many examples of how that is demonstrably false.", ">\n\nExactly, it's like everyone is circle jerking about Raegan saying \"the worst thing you can hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help\", when in reality he was describing his own administration that targeted minorities with draconian crack cocaine laws while funding literal terrorists in Nicaragua with arms sales to Iran while the CIA was helping smuggle cocaine from the same terrorists into America.", ">\n\nIn general, it's very apparent that multinational corporations will step in wherever allowed by the government or lack thereof. \nInstead of being living under the boot of a political entity interested in power, you are living under the boot of a corporation where the rules of your life are created to bring profit.\nPeople seem so eager to forget the period of history barely more than 100 years ago when workers were all but the official property of their employer. They lived in the company town, shopped at the company store, had tenancy in a company house or flat and that meant no worker leverage whatsoever. Anyone demanding better conditions could get excommunicated from their entire community.", ">\n\nWell said. When people say that we need fewer regulations on corporations I usually say to tell that to West Virginia coal miners after the Bull Moose special. It seems like many people are ignorant or willfully ignorant of past exploitation of workers.", ">\n\nDisband and Nationalize.\nThey lied about keeping the prices down for their subsidies, they lied about the damage they were doing to our environment in the name of continued profits, if they cannot be trusted to act in our interests with such material, they cannot be trusted to control said material period.\nThe Execs and Shareholders will be left thankful if it doesn't lead to their personal assets being seized and them being sent to prison for the rest of their lives for such flagrant committing of fraud against the American people.", ">\n\n...and nothing will happen. The rule of law is a farce. We are seeing it in real time every day. Laws were made by the rich for the rich.", ">\n\nWhat laws were broken?", ">\n\nIt’s real GOP. Please open your minds a bit and accept reality for once. Also our elections are safe and secure and have been for the last 200 years. The deranged thinkers only have doubts now so please stop and handle that life after Covid will be different than you are use to and that’s okay.", ">\n\nEven before discussing anything about punishment, oil companies should be nationalized. Its obvious that the profit motive being involved with such important resources is far too dangerous for the environment and democracy. \nAs for punishment, the shareholders shouldn't be compensated for the expropriation, and the fortunes of the largest shareholders since the 70's should be seized. Any punishment that doesn't punish shareholders or take away their power to do these things isn't a valid punishment.", ">\n\nNationalize irreplaceable industries ruining the planet for profit. If it’s a necessity, and you’re providing it in a way that fucks us all over, and there is no competition, you don’t deserve rewards.", ">\n\nDid you read the thing you quoted? A science editor for a magazine made a statement about chilling, not scientists. They shouldn't be conflated, but often are.\nAt the time, there was no scientific consensus about run-away global cooling. There were 7 scientific papers promoting the idea of long-term cooling trends being likely, 40 saying global warming was likely to dominate, and 20-30 with neutral predictions.\nEven in the relative infancy of the day, scientists understood that various factors having forcing effects on the climate. These include the tilt of the Earth, the amount of solar radiation, the degree of pollutants and dust in the air, and the extent greenhouse gases trap radiation.\nIn the 1970s, dust and pollution were the main forcing factors. What changes? A much greater amount of greenhouse gases, and the Clean Air Act of 1967 being put into motion after the founding of the EPA. Without as many aerosols reflecting light in the atmosphere, greenhouse gases became the dominant forcing factor.\nThis doesn't mean it was a negative to reduce pollutants in the air, and greenhouse gases were rising factor than aerosols even in 1970, which is why so many scientists predicting warming even in the face of a 30 year cooling trend.", ">\n\nThey should be required to double their contributions to the politicians in their pocket.", ">\n\nthere is a 3 part documentary about this very thing. Cant remember its name and would like to watch again. one of he most thought provoking docos I have seen for a long time", ">\n\nThey should get the same treatment the cigarette companies got and for the same reasons.", ">\n\nA better question is what can be done to hold the people, who believed petrochemical companies about global warming, accountable.", ">\n\nI’d love to see them broken up and liquidated. Will it happen? Probably not.", ">\n\nExtensive financial penalties based on number of years since they’ve known they were deceiving the general public so that they could profit on us, these are profit bandits obviously as history has proven.", ">\n\nThere’s actually nothing you can do because it was an internal study. Get on with your life and focus on other things that actually matter.", ">\n\nI’ve *gleefully* used exxonmobil gas when their prices were the lowest. I’ve also “been aware” of climate change for virtually my entire adult life. Should I be punished as well? \nWhat does “being aware of climate change” even mean? What is the specific causal connection between Exxon’s sale of a fungible product and their incremental\nimpact on climate change? Wouldn’t shell or bp just take up that market share if exxon weren’t around? \nHave you asked the American people (this is a democracy after all) their willingness to “punish” an entity for selling them critical energy for the past several decades? Even if it would’ve meant higher gas prices for them? \nWhat cause of action do you have in mind by the way? You can’t “punish” someone unless they’ve violated a law, after all. Rule of law and all that. Is this law so poorly thought through that exxon managed to screw themselves by doing these internal studies (which apparently taught them about climate change)?\nCome on.", ">\n\nWhat will be done about the multi-millionaires who are killing the planet. Haha. Nothing.", ">\n\nNothing should be done because all they had was speculation, just like present Climate Alarmists. There has been no definitive evidence that any of the dire predictioons have come true. Should we punish Paul Ehrlich for predicted mass starvation in the 70s that didn't happen?\nYou said, \"Exxon Mobil has lied and misdirected governments, shareholders, and the public about climate change, its trajectory, and its effects.\" So what specifically did they lie about? None of the speculation has come true. The models have been universally wrong. The catastrophic prediction of the last 50 years have also been wrong.\nThe only accurate prediction anyone has made is that CO2 levels would increase. They have increased. However, temeratures have not increased proportionally. CO2 emissions have increased 300% since 1960 yet temperatures have barely moved.\nNo one can show anywhere on earth where sea level is rising catastrophically, we still have ice in the Arctic and Antarctic, we still have roughly 400,000 glaciers, we still have snow, we still have polar bears. There is not yet evidence of changes in the global frequency or intensity of hurricanes, droughts, floods or wildfires and the number of weather related deaths is dramatically decreased. So what exactly did Exxon lie about.", ">\n\nPredictions for major changes like that are still several decades out. The study in question was proven over time to be accurate in its predictions of warming. It's not going to be like something out of a movie though.", ">\n\nProbably nothing will come of it. And to be frank, our largest energy companies are likely going to be the leaders of climate change initiatives. The Green New Deal specifically lacked funding and requires large contributions and leadership from oil and gas companies. \nSo the future is their oyster.", ">\n\nI thought we were already aware of such documents decades ago? I seem to recall similar things being referencd many a time in the past.\nI'm not in charge; if I were alot of rules would be quite different, and there would be more consequences for misdeeds. For things like this it'd amount to massive fines, dissolution of companies, and major jail time for a lot of the offenders.\nShould there be penalties for this kind of thing? obviously yes. However in practice it seems there aren't, because of wealth and power dynamics preventing the rich guilty from being liable for harm they cause to the extent they deserve." ]

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[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues..." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO..." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid.", ">\n\nSeems fitting considering he is both a Nobel prize-winning scientist and an owner of several small businesses.\n…or so he says." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid.", ">\n\nSeems fitting considering he is both a Nobel prize-winning scientist and an owner of several small businesses.\n…or so he says.", ">\n\nHis mom was running a science small business before she was killed by extraterrestrials on 9/11 . . . by space lasers." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid.", ">\n\nSeems fitting considering he is both a Nobel prize-winning scientist and an owner of several small businesses.\n…or so he says.", ">\n\nHis mom was running a science small business before she was killed by extraterrestrials on 9/11 . . . by space lasers.", ">\n\nWelcome to Putting People in Charge of Things they Have No Idea About. or How the Republican Party leads from the toilet." ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid.", ">\n\nSeems fitting considering he is both a Nobel prize-winning scientist and an owner of several small businesses.\n…or so he says.", ">\n\nHis mom was running a science small business before she was killed by extraterrestrials on 9/11 . . . by space lasers.", ">\n\nWelcome to Putting People in Charge of Things they Have No Idea About. or How the Republican Party leads from the toilet.", ">\n\nSantos on the Science committee is PERFECTLY CONSISTENT with what any THINKING person would have expected from that committee with Republicans in the majority. OTOH, small business owners may have solid reasons for believing McCarthy just sent them a huge @#$% YOU!" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid.", ">\n\nSeems fitting considering he is both a Nobel prize-winning scientist and an owner of several small businesses.\n…or so he says.", ">\n\nHis mom was running a science small business before she was killed by extraterrestrials on 9/11 . . . by space lasers.", ">\n\nWelcome to Putting People in Charge of Things they Have No Idea About. or How the Republican Party leads from the toilet.", ">\n\nSantos on the Science committee is PERFECTLY CONSISTENT with what any THINKING person would have expected from that committee with Republicans in the majority. OTOH, small business owners may have solid reasons for believing McCarthy just sent them a huge @#$% YOU!", ">\n\nWhy don’t they auction sell seats directly to russians" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid.", ">\n\nSeems fitting considering he is both a Nobel prize-winning scientist and an owner of several small businesses.\n…or so he says.", ">\n\nHis mom was running a science small business before she was killed by extraterrestrials on 9/11 . . . by space lasers.", ">\n\nWelcome to Putting People in Charge of Things they Have No Idea About. or How the Republican Party leads from the toilet.", ">\n\nSantos on the Science committee is PERFECTLY CONSISTENT with what any THINKING person would have expected from that committee with Republicans in the majority. OTOH, small business owners may have solid reasons for believing McCarthy just sent them a huge @#$% YOU!", ">\n\nWhy don’t they auction sell seats directly to russians", ">\n\nGod, how embarrassing" ]

[ "Interesting that he is on the Science committee since science is based on truth, and he is entirely unfamiliar with the concept.", ">\n\nRepublican science has nothing to do with facts or truth, so he's a perfect fit.", ">\n\nThe “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, that without fail rejects facts based on feelings.", ">\n\n\"I don't feel climate change is real\" - GQP, probably", ">\n\n“I don’t know about you guys, but I think climate change is — as Lord Monckton said — bullshit,” ~ Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)", ">\n\n\nOne House Republican who frequently handles classified documents and information told NBC News last week that Santos “probably shouldn’t be on Intelligence” or the House Armed Services Committee, specifically suggesting the Small Business Committee as a safer place to seat the freshman.\n\nWhat does the Small Business Committee do you ask?\n\nThe Small Business Committee has oversight and legislative jurisdiction over the Small Business Administration and its programs, as well as provides assistance to and protection of small business, including financial aid and the participation of small business enterprises in federal procurement and government contracts.\n\nYa, this is going to end well for everyone.", ">\n\n\nThe GOP Steering Committee, which is led by Speaker Kevin McCarthy and doles out committee assignments, voted to give Santos slots on the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Small Business Committee, which are two of the lower profile panels on Capitol Hill.\n\nI want to also add this too:\n\nThe Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. More specifically, the committee has complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, NSF, NIST, and the OSTP. The committee also has authority over R&D activities at the Department of Energy, the EPA, FAA, NOAA, the DOT, the NWS, the DHS and the U.S. Fire Administration.", ">\n\nDOE? Like Nuclear R&D? The russians hit a triple with this one.", ">\n\nWhat the flying f#*k? Not only does this foreign agent get to continue to hold his seat, he now gets two committee assignments as well? Republicans have lost any say in any argument from here on, it is moot. They claim to be on the \"right\" side but prove over and over they serve money, even if that money isn't American. They sell us out for their own personal and party gains and leave us as a dried out husk. They are laughing over all this, it is a joke no republican takes seriously and that is not only a major problem it is also a major sign of divisions in the whole of the nation not seen since the last civil war.\nTheir guys can cheat, lie, steal, commit fraud, fondle minors, and be as obtuse as possible and none of their \"followers\" care. But you let them see a democrat with an unpaid parking ticket and suddenly all laws matter and heads need to roll. Hypocrites and charlatans the ENTIRE party.", ">\n\nFall of a nation symptoms. I've been very confident in the future of our motion but as time goes in, it's become clear the republican party will destroy the nation. The blatant corruption and insane illogical actions they are taking increasingly more will cause a cascade. There will be a revolution. Now whether the nation survives it is another question. But as it is, we are seeing corruption that reminds me of Rome before the fall. In what SANE fucking world is this guy anywhere near a legislative position? Why does it seem like someone working at McDonald's has to have a higher standard of being that a congressman or woman? Insanity. And the people will be rotted enough intellectually and morally to no longer be able to hold their leaders accountable.", ">\n\nJust so. \"These colors don't run ...\" but in the face of overwhelming hypocrisy, stacked odds, special interests and American Oligarchs ... The deck can't possibly be stacked against the average American any higher.\nHonestly don't know how all y'alls are going to make it through.", ">\n\nRepublicans proving again that all they want is the vote. They would keep a serial killer as long as he votes the right way.", ">\n\nConsidering Trump’s Covid response, they pretty much did.", ">\n\nBush's wars too", ">\n\nAl Franken resigned.", ">\n\nHe needs to run again and be elected. Truly horseshit after all we have seen from the GoP since then.", ">\n\nThis tells you everything you need to know about how important small business and science are to republicans.", ">\n\nSeems fair. He was the second man on the moon after all.", ">\n\n2 new aliases: Buzz Santos, and George Aldrin.", ">\n\nThe GOP does not want these committees to function as intended, but instead to sabotage each one of them. So they place Santos here, MT Greene there, Gym Jordan as head of the judiciary committee, etc. It's all about sabotaging the government.", ">\n\nAs everyone in the world moves forward we jump off the cliff to own the libs. The future is looking quite shitty.", ">\n\nFrom one perspective, makes perfect sense for the party skeptical of climate science to put a serial compulsive liar on the Science Committee.\nAs for Small Business, Santos could have a lot to contribute, e.g., the utility of colorful embellishment on loan applications.", ">\n\nHow does our country survive the blatant corruption in our government. We've become a joke globally.", ">\n\nFucking ridiculous.\nThe GOP cannot be trusted with power. Cannot be trusted with taxpayer money. Cannot be trusted to have the country’s best interest at the center of their police’s. Cannot be trusted to act ethically. Cannot be trusted to be honest. Cannot be trusted.", ">\n\nSantos at his first presser, “I am going to contribute so much to the small business committee that soon ALL small businesses will be large businesses! Mark my words.”", ">\n\nHe thought it was the Science Fiction committee", ">\n\nA guy with no formal education or business experience is going to be on a committee for them? This is your trash ass party Republicans.", ">\n\nThe American clown show continues...", ">\n\nThe Russian Stooge committee was already full by the time they got to appointing him.", ">\n\nI don’t know how these people can look in the mirror.", ">\n\nGeorge Santos invented the mirror. /s", ">\n\nNow hea going to tell everyone he turned into the hulk and to stop asking him to resign or he'll go all hulk on them", ">\n\nHe was a previous scientist.", ">\n\nhow was your first week with the science and small business committee, george?\nso there i am negotiating with Elvis in Bigfoot's UFO...", ">\n\nIf you want a laugh, or a cry, go check out the ways and means committee page.", ">\n\nMakes sense, he already has years of experience as a member on this committee", ">\n\nCool! We are going to get perpetual motion machines and a booming economy that will make us all very rich.", ">\n\nSantos won a Nobel Prize in sciency stuff! He told me so himself.", ">\n\nHe invented science.", ">\n\nHe is science", ">\n\nWe shouldn’t be surprised. Half the population is stupid and so half the House of Representatives is stupid and/or take advantage of stupid.", ">\n\nEmbattled rep??? You mean CON MAN AND INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT", ">\n\nThis just proves that as a society, Americans are too stupid to be governed. And it's not just the right, or even the non-voters. If the left is not smart enough to stop this insanity, they are included.\nWhy has the left let the entire mediascape be bought and run by the right? Were they not smart enough to raise money and buy their own TV and radio stations? Why did they not work at the lowest levels to control school boards like the right? I suspect the answer is that they underestimated just how far the right would/could go. And that's pretty stupid.", ">\n\nSeems fitting considering he is both a Nobel prize-winning scientist and an owner of several small businesses.\n…or so he says.", ">\n\nHis mom was running a science small business before she was killed by extraterrestrials on 9/11 . . . by space lasers.", ">\n\nWelcome to Putting People in Charge of Things they Have No Idea About. or How the Republican Party leads from the toilet.", ">\n\nSantos on the Science committee is PERFECTLY CONSISTENT with what any THINKING person would have expected from that committee with Republicans in the majority. OTOH, small business owners may have solid reasons for believing McCarthy just sent them a huge @#$% YOU!", ">\n\nWhy don’t they auction sell seats directly to russians", ">\n\nGod, how embarrassing", ">\n\nBecause the GOP believes science is bullshit anyway." ]