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pasyyb | artfundamentals_train | 0.91 | Are there any testimonials to show that Drawabox.com works? Like does anyone have any before and after Drawabox works that shows a noticeable improvement? | ha7g10u | ha7d124 | 1,629,836,852 | 1,629,835,645 | 26 | 20 | The majority of this sub, I would say | https://drawabox.com/comic | 1 | 1,207 | 1.3 | ||
pasyyb | artfundamentals_train | 0.91 | Are there any testimonials to show that Drawabox.com works? Like does anyone have any before and after Drawabox works that shows a noticeable improvement? | hacihrb | haberwt | 1,629,928,363 | 1,629,912,380 | 7 | 6 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFn9w3uDkz4 Becca Rand finished drawabox and did a great video review. You can see her improvement over time by going back and watching some of the older stuff on that channel | I've always been terrible at drawing and I'm still terrible. I'm only on the "draw 200 boxes" assignment though. I think I can draw lines straighter than before, although they still aren't straight | 1 | 15,983 | 1.166667 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9fpojw | f9fflz5 | 1,575,282,640 | 1,575,269,744 | 15 | 10 | Scott Robertson is the king of this | When you draw from life, are you giving yourself time limits? The easiest way I've found to work on breaking things down to their simplest form/essence is to not give myself enough time to agonize over it. Try doing 30sec/1min/etc studies. A lot of art colleges have cheap live model drawing nights, or there are tons of YouTube videos for it. Hell, even just sit in a mall or a park and do quick drawings of people passing by. | 1 | 12,896 | 1.5 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9ffhrw | f9fpojw | 1,575,269,611 | 1,575,282,640 | 6 | 15 | Charles Bargue Course Book its also free on archive.org if you do the copies with time you will grasp on your own the basics of shapes measuring, form, rendering etc | Scott Robertson is the king of this | 0 | 13,029 | 2.5 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9fflz5 | f9ffhrw | 1,575,269,744 | 1,575,269,611 | 10 | 6 | When you draw from life, are you giving yourself time limits? The easiest way I've found to work on breaking things down to their simplest form/essence is to not give myself enough time to agonize over it. Try doing 30sec/1min/etc studies. A lot of art colleges have cheap live model drawing nights, or there are tons of YouTube videos for it. Hell, even just sit in a mall or a park and do quick drawings of people passing by. | Charles Bargue Course Book its also free on archive.org if you do the copies with time you will grasp on your own the basics of shapes measuring, form, rendering etc | 1 | 133 | 1.666667 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9goclk | f9fynkd | 1,575,302,373 | 1,575,288,794 | 9 | 8 | I found that closing one eye (almost blurring what’s in front of me), timing myself for like 1 minute, and creating a rough gesture drawing with only shapes before getting started helped me greatly. Also, any negative drawing exercises guide your eye to break down information into shapes. Compose multiple stills and draw the negative space, it really helped me! ☺️ | Anthony Ryder, The Complete Guide to Figure Drawing https://www.amazon.com/Artists-Complete-Guide-Figure-Drawing/dp/0823003035 Might be worth checking out. He puts a lot of emphasis on “envelopes” (surrounding the figure with big simple shapes before breaking it down further and further..) | 1 | 13,579 | 1.125 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9ffhrw | f9goclk | 1,575,269,611 | 1,575,302,373 | 6 | 9 | Charles Bargue Course Book its also free on archive.org if you do the copies with time you will grasp on your own the basics of shapes measuring, form, rendering etc | I found that closing one eye (almost blurring what’s in front of me), timing myself for like 1 minute, and creating a rough gesture drawing with only shapes before getting started helped me greatly. Also, any negative drawing exercises guide your eye to break down information into shapes. Compose multiple stills and draw the negative space, it really helped me! ☺️ | 0 | 32,762 | 1.5 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9goclk | f9gj0c1 | 1,575,302,373 | 1,575,300,102 | 9 | 3 | I found that closing one eye (almost blurring what’s in front of me), timing myself for like 1 minute, and creating a rough gesture drawing with only shapes before getting started helped me greatly. Also, any negative drawing exercises guide your eye to break down information into shapes. Compose multiple stills and draw the negative space, it really helped me! ☺️ | Practice drawing cubes and spheres and the rest will come. | 1 | 2,271 | 3 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9goclk | f9gobv8 | 1,575,302,373 | 1,575,302,365 | 9 | 1 | I found that closing one eye (almost blurring what’s in front of me), timing myself for like 1 minute, and creating a rough gesture drawing with only shapes before getting started helped me greatly. Also, any negative drawing exercises guide your eye to break down information into shapes. Compose multiple stills and draw the negative space, it really helped me! ☺️ | Bridgman does a very solid job of this, particularly in relation to the human figure: https://www.amazon.com/Bridgmans-Complete-Guide-Drawing-Life/dp/1402766785 | 1 | 8 | 9 | ||
e4r3sc | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is there any book that teaches how to break things down into simple forms? Or is there any regime or way to practice that ability to see things in simple shapes and forms? I almost finished all of the drawabox lessons and exercises, I am also going through the Dynamic Bible book of Peter Han, but I still can't seem to break anything I see into simple forms and shapes whenever I draw from life. What are some resources or things I can do to practice this skill? | f9ffhrw | f9fynkd | 1,575,269,611 | 1,575,288,794 | 6 | 8 | Charles Bargue Course Book its also free on archive.org if you do the copies with time you will grasp on your own the basics of shapes measuring, form, rendering etc | Anthony Ryder, The Complete Guide to Figure Drawing https://www.amazon.com/Artists-Complete-Guide-Figure-Drawing/dp/0823003035 Might be worth checking out. He puts a lot of emphasis on “envelopes” (surrounding the figure with big simple shapes before breaking it down further and further..) | 0 | 19,183 | 1.333333 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlj1b4 | ihml7ii | 1,658,767,538 | 1,658,782,024 | 23 | 33 | Seems like you've got bigger issues than drawing. Don't be so hard on yourself. If you want to draw, draw for the sake of drawing. Unless you are currently a professional artist, it doesn't matter if its bad. If it's still bad in 10 years then so be it. So much of what we do in any arena is in our heads. Get out of your own way. | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | 0 | 14,486 | 1.434783 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlzhuu | ihml7ii | 1,658,773,778 | 1,658,782,024 | 17 | 33 | You got to put in your 10,000 hours. Like the adage goes: "if you aren't willing to look like a foolish beginner, you will never be a graceful master." | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | 0 | 8,246 | 1.941176 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihml7ii | ihlwl2z | 1,658,782,024 | 1,658,772,666 | 33 | 14 | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | IMO this is what the 50% rule is all about. If you're feeling hopeless and frustrated and just feel like giving up then it's time to spend some time with your art supplies NOT trying to get better. Draw what makes you happy and say to heck with how good it is. Find that mental place where time disappears and the volume on the world gets turned down and it's just you and the pen and a piece of paper and enjoy the process. Fuck the product. It doesn't matter it isn't the point. Contrary to popular belief you do not have to be good at your hobbies. So forget about comparing yourself to other people. Someone out there looks at your work and wishes they could draw like you. | 1 | 9,358 | 2.357143 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlozmc | ihml7ii | 1,658,769,793 | 1,658,782,024 | 10 | 33 | Perfectionism might be your biggest enemy at this point. Keep practicing. Even if you think you suck, keep going. | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | 0 | 12,231 | 3.3 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmf3zf | ihml7ii | 1,658,779,748 | 1,658,782,024 | 9 | 33 | I've got a friend that always reminds me of the phrase: "Comparison is the thief of joy." Sounds like you used to have fun until you started to compare your work to other people. Maybe drawabox isn't the system that works for you. If you know comparing your art to others makes you unhappy, make a conscious effort to not even look at others' work. No, not everyone has it in them to be a pro, or to even be considered talented, but I believe everyone has it in them to be self-satisfied in their work that they chose for themselves. That's what you need to put effort into before you ever "see results" in your art. | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | 0 | 2,276 | 3.666667 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlyxx1 | ihml7ii | 1,658,773,565 | 1,658,782,024 | 8 | 33 | You won't be any good for a long, long, long time. And if you stick with it and do get good, you may not even recognize it due to how slow it can take. This is true for many things worth doing in life. Put in the grind. Though also enjoy it. Other commenters talked about the 50% rule. You gotta also draw things you want to draw. Break rules. Try new stuff. Try to do it every day if even for 10 minutes. | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | 0 | 8,459 | 4.125 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmfc73 | ihml7ii | 1,658,779,835 | 1,658,782,024 | 8 | 33 | Drawing is a skill you acquire over a lot of time, through a lot of practice. You probably won’t see any progress this week over next week, maybe even the week after that! At first, you have to be very aware of yourself (like if you are drawing from your wrist of your shoulder), and make conscious efforts while working on DaB. If you know a little bit before going into DaB, it can be a bit harder I think. A lot of time, self taught creates bad habits that can be hard to break (speaking from experience). But when you look back on what you did today in, say, two months? There will be differences. DaB builds up good habits and a sturdy foundation. Those are things that are vital, but not always visible. I recommend keeping close to the 50% rule. You need to keep drawing things you like, even if they don’t turn out well. You don’t have to destroy them or throw them away if you don’t like them. Give yourself a break- look at what is wrong, what is right, laugh at how good or bad it turned out, and move on. TL;DR- It can and will get better, but it’s something that will only happen with time and practice. Don’t beat yourself up so much! | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | 0 | 2,189 | 4.125 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihml7ii | ihl00k5 | 1,658,782,024 | 1,658,760,095 | 33 | -2 | So, you expected to be a good artist with no more than a week’s worth of practice? You’ll never improve as long as you stick to the “I can’t” narrative. You’re literally programming that squishy computer in you skull to make sure you self-sabotage. Start again with the knowledge that these are fundamental exercises that aren’t going to pay off immediately. Don’t let your inner critic win the day. Don’t compare your stumbling baby stage with Olympic track stars. | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | 1 | 21,929 | -16.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihlj1b4 | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,767,538 | -2 | 23 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | Seems like you've got bigger issues than drawing. Don't be so hard on yourself. If you want to draw, draw for the sake of drawing. Unless you are currently a professional artist, it doesn't matter if its bad. If it's still bad in 10 years then so be it. So much of what we do in any arena is in our heads. Get out of your own way. | 0 | 7,443 | -11.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlzhuu | ihlwl2z | 1,658,773,778 | 1,658,772,666 | 17 | 14 | You got to put in your 10,000 hours. Like the adage goes: "if you aren't willing to look like a foolish beginner, you will never be a graceful master." | IMO this is what the 50% rule is all about. If you're feeling hopeless and frustrated and just feel like giving up then it's time to spend some time with your art supplies NOT trying to get better. Draw what makes you happy and say to heck with how good it is. Find that mental place where time disappears and the volume on the world gets turned down and it's just you and the pen and a piece of paper and enjoy the process. Fuck the product. It doesn't matter it isn't the point. Contrary to popular belief you do not have to be good at your hobbies. So forget about comparing yourself to other people. Someone out there looks at your work and wishes they could draw like you. | 1 | 1,112 | 1.214286 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlzhuu | ihlozmc | 1,658,773,778 | 1,658,769,793 | 17 | 10 | You got to put in your 10,000 hours. Like the adage goes: "if you aren't willing to look like a foolish beginner, you will never be a graceful master." | Perfectionism might be your biggest enemy at this point. Keep practicing. Even if you think you suck, keep going. | 1 | 3,985 | 1.7 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlzhuu | ihlyxx1 | 1,658,773,778 | 1,658,773,565 | 17 | 8 | You got to put in your 10,000 hours. Like the adage goes: "if you aren't willing to look like a foolish beginner, you will never be a graceful master." | You won't be any good for a long, long, long time. And if you stick with it and do get good, you may not even recognize it due to how slow it can take. This is true for many things worth doing in life. Put in the grind. Though also enjoy it. Other commenters talked about the 50% rule. You gotta also draw things you want to draw. Break rules. Try new stuff. Try to do it every day if even for 10 minutes. | 1 | 213 | 2.125 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihlzhuu | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,773,778 | -2 | 17 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | You got to put in your 10,000 hours. Like the adage goes: "if you aren't willing to look like a foolish beginner, you will never be a graceful master." | 0 | 13,683 | -8.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlozmc | ihlwl2z | 1,658,769,793 | 1,658,772,666 | 10 | 14 | Perfectionism might be your biggest enemy at this point. Keep practicing. Even if you think you suck, keep going. | IMO this is what the 50% rule is all about. If you're feeling hopeless and frustrated and just feel like giving up then it's time to spend some time with your art supplies NOT trying to get better. Draw what makes you happy and say to heck with how good it is. Find that mental place where time disappears and the volume on the world gets turned down and it's just you and the pen and a piece of paper and enjoy the process. Fuck the product. It doesn't matter it isn't the point. Contrary to popular belief you do not have to be good at your hobbies. So forget about comparing yourself to other people. Someone out there looks at your work and wishes they could draw like you. | 0 | 2,873 | 1.4 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihlwl2z | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,772,666 | -2 | 14 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | IMO this is what the 50% rule is all about. If you're feeling hopeless and frustrated and just feel like giving up then it's time to spend some time with your art supplies NOT trying to get better. Draw what makes you happy and say to heck with how good it is. Find that mental place where time disappears and the volume on the world gets turned down and it's just you and the pen and a piece of paper and enjoy the process. Fuck the product. It doesn't matter it isn't the point. Contrary to popular belief you do not have to be good at your hobbies. So forget about comparing yourself to other people. Someone out there looks at your work and wishes they could draw like you. | 0 | 12,571 | -7 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihog6js | ihmyfkl | 1,658,812,589 | 1,658,787,232 | 13 | 12 | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | I think you should spend a lot more time drawing than (externally) learning. If you know everything about baking, you're still not gonna make a great cake if you haven't made something similar yet. Very similar concept. | 1 | 25,357 | 1.083333 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihnmsaw | ihog6js | 1,658,797,825 | 1,658,812,589 | 11 | 13 | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | 0 | 14,764 | 1.181818 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlozmc | ihog6js | 1,658,769,793 | 1,658,812,589 | 10 | 13 | Perfectionism might be your biggest enemy at this point. Keep practicing. Even if you think you suck, keep going. | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | 0 | 42,796 | 1.3 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmf3zf | ihog6js | 1,658,779,748 | 1,658,812,589 | 9 | 13 | I've got a friend that always reminds me of the phrase: "Comparison is the thief of joy." Sounds like you used to have fun until you started to compare your work to other people. Maybe drawabox isn't the system that works for you. If you know comparing your art to others makes you unhappy, make a conscious effort to not even look at others' work. No, not everyone has it in them to be a pro, or to even be considered talented, but I believe everyone has it in them to be self-satisfied in their work that they chose for themselves. That's what you need to put effort into before you ever "see results" in your art. | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | 0 | 32,841 | 1.444444 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihn57ik | ihog6js | 1,658,790,062 | 1,658,812,589 | 8 | 13 | You will get there but it's a process of years. If you think about it we all start as kids drawing squiggly lines and nonsense. Years pass and soon we're depicting what we want more clearly, fine tuning handwriting, learning all the little tricks like adding color or shadows. It's a long process though and sometimes theory can hold you back because if you're anything like myself you can certainly read and understand a concept much faster than you can execute it. It gets frustrating to not put that picture in your head down, but the point of it all is try and make something from you that you appreciate. Even if it's not your masterpiece you should appreciate it as a stepping stone and enjoy the process. That's why we do it in the first place right? To enjoy creating. Keep in mind that at the end of the day all art is subjective anyway. Some people only do extreme abstract pieces and some like still life. Some people make graffiti, draw comics, paint with their fingers, and all kinds of crazy stuff in between. You'll always be your worst critic, but if you can recognize what art you love and are inspired by you might enjoy the process of learning. Figure out your favorite pieces and artists, study them and try to recreate the work yourself. Practice off of what you admire and your skills towards what you appreciate will improve greatly. The progress might be clearer then because I doubt your true passion is drawing the exercises in drawbox. Keep making and you'll get there. If you enjoy it it'll only go faster. I wish you success going forward! | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | 0 | 22,527 | 1.625 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihog6js | ihlyxx1 | 1,658,812,589 | 1,658,773,565 | 13 | 8 | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | You won't be any good for a long, long, long time. And if you stick with it and do get good, you may not even recognize it due to how slow it can take. This is true for many things worth doing in life. Put in the grind. Though also enjoy it. Other commenters talked about the 50% rule. You gotta also draw things you want to draw. Break rules. Try new stuff. Try to do it every day if even for 10 minutes. | 1 | 39,024 | 1.625 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihog6js | ihmfc73 | 1,658,812,589 | 1,658,779,835 | 13 | 8 | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | Drawing is a skill you acquire over a lot of time, through a lot of practice. You probably won’t see any progress this week over next week, maybe even the week after that! At first, you have to be very aware of yourself (like if you are drawing from your wrist of your shoulder), and make conscious efforts while working on DaB. If you know a little bit before going into DaB, it can be a bit harder I think. A lot of time, self taught creates bad habits that can be hard to break (speaking from experience). But when you look back on what you did today in, say, two months? There will be differences. DaB builds up good habits and a sturdy foundation. Those are things that are vital, but not always visible. I recommend keeping close to the 50% rule. You need to keep drawing things you like, even if they don’t turn out well. You don’t have to destroy them or throw them away if you don’t like them. Give yourself a break- look at what is wrong, what is right, laugh at how good or bad it turned out, and move on. TL;DR- It can and will get better, but it’s something that will only happen with time and practice. Don’t beat yourself up so much! | 1 | 32,754 | 1.625 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihog6js | ihmnc2j | 1,658,812,589 | 1,658,782,825 | 13 | 6 | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | what about trying to get a tablet like the samung tab s6 lite to draw on. colors? ALL of them. paper? (nearly) ENDLESS tools? as many as you want. | 1 | 29,764 | 2.166667 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihng9dw | ihog6js | 1,658,794,914 | 1,658,812,589 | 4 | 13 | Gestures are not easy at all. You gotta practice them like warm ups too. Also fuck shading. Don’t worry about it until you get to that point in the course. It will teach you to understand the forms and planes first and that knowledge will skyrocket you shading abilities. | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | 0 | 17,675 | 3.25 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihog6js | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,812,589 | -2 | 13 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | You're being way too hard on yourself. Art progress is just kind of wacky. Sometimes it's steady progress, sometimes it's nothing for a long time and suddenly it clicks and you're making leaps and bounds. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at where you've been and realizing that you've come farther than you realized. Hang on to your old stuff, even if it's embarrassingly bad. It'll give you something to compare to as you progress, so you can get a more tangible sense of what kind of results you're getting. | 0 | 52,494 | -6.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlozmc | ihmyfkl | 1,658,769,793 | 1,658,787,232 | 10 | 12 | Perfectionism might be your biggest enemy at this point. Keep practicing. Even if you think you suck, keep going. | I think you should spend a lot more time drawing than (externally) learning. If you know everything about baking, you're still not gonna make a great cake if you haven't made something similar yet. Very similar concept. | 0 | 17,439 | 1.2 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmf3zf | ihmyfkl | 1,658,779,748 | 1,658,787,232 | 9 | 12 | I've got a friend that always reminds me of the phrase: "Comparison is the thief of joy." Sounds like you used to have fun until you started to compare your work to other people. Maybe drawabox isn't the system that works for you. If you know comparing your art to others makes you unhappy, make a conscious effort to not even look at others' work. No, not everyone has it in them to be a pro, or to even be considered talented, but I believe everyone has it in them to be self-satisfied in their work that they chose for themselves. That's what you need to put effort into before you ever "see results" in your art. | I think you should spend a lot more time drawing than (externally) learning. If you know everything about baking, you're still not gonna make a great cake if you haven't made something similar yet. Very similar concept. | 0 | 7,484 | 1.333333 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlyxx1 | ihmyfkl | 1,658,773,565 | 1,658,787,232 | 8 | 12 | You won't be any good for a long, long, long time. And if you stick with it and do get good, you may not even recognize it due to how slow it can take. This is true for many things worth doing in life. Put in the grind. Though also enjoy it. Other commenters talked about the 50% rule. You gotta also draw things you want to draw. Break rules. Try new stuff. Try to do it every day if even for 10 minutes. | I think you should spend a lot more time drawing than (externally) learning. If you know everything about baking, you're still not gonna make a great cake if you haven't made something similar yet. Very similar concept. | 0 | 13,667 | 1.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmyfkl | ihmfc73 | 1,658,787,232 | 1,658,779,835 | 12 | 8 | I think you should spend a lot more time drawing than (externally) learning. If you know everything about baking, you're still not gonna make a great cake if you haven't made something similar yet. Very similar concept. | Drawing is a skill you acquire over a lot of time, through a lot of practice. You probably won’t see any progress this week over next week, maybe even the week after that! At first, you have to be very aware of yourself (like if you are drawing from your wrist of your shoulder), and make conscious efforts while working on DaB. If you know a little bit before going into DaB, it can be a bit harder I think. A lot of time, self taught creates bad habits that can be hard to break (speaking from experience). But when you look back on what you did today in, say, two months? There will be differences. DaB builds up good habits and a sturdy foundation. Those are things that are vital, but not always visible. I recommend keeping close to the 50% rule. You need to keep drawing things you like, even if they don’t turn out well. You don’t have to destroy them or throw them away if you don’t like them. Give yourself a break- look at what is wrong, what is right, laugh at how good or bad it turned out, and move on. TL;DR- It can and will get better, but it’s something that will only happen with time and practice. Don’t beat yourself up so much! | 1 | 7,397 | 1.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmyfkl | ihmnc2j | 1,658,787,232 | 1,658,782,825 | 12 | 6 | I think you should spend a lot more time drawing than (externally) learning. If you know everything about baking, you're still not gonna make a great cake if you haven't made something similar yet. Very similar concept. | what about trying to get a tablet like the samung tab s6 lite to draw on. colors? ALL of them. paper? (nearly) ENDLESS tools? as many as you want. | 1 | 4,407 | 2 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmyfkl | ihl00k5 | 1,658,787,232 | 1,658,760,095 | 12 | -2 | I think you should spend a lot more time drawing than (externally) learning. If you know everything about baking, you're still not gonna make a great cake if you haven't made something similar yet. Very similar concept. | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | 1 | 27,137 | -6 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihnmsaw | ihlozmc | 1,658,797,825 | 1,658,769,793 | 11 | 10 | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | Perfectionism might be your biggest enemy at this point. Keep practicing. Even if you think you suck, keep going. | 1 | 28,032 | 1.1 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmf3zf | ihnmsaw | 1,658,779,748 | 1,658,797,825 | 9 | 11 | I've got a friend that always reminds me of the phrase: "Comparison is the thief of joy." Sounds like you used to have fun until you started to compare your work to other people. Maybe drawabox isn't the system that works for you. If you know comparing your art to others makes you unhappy, make a conscious effort to not even look at others' work. No, not everyone has it in them to be a pro, or to even be considered talented, but I believe everyone has it in them to be self-satisfied in their work that they chose for themselves. That's what you need to put effort into before you ever "see results" in your art. | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | 0 | 18,077 | 1.222222 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihnmsaw | ihn57ik | 1,658,797,825 | 1,658,790,062 | 11 | 8 | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | You will get there but it's a process of years. If you think about it we all start as kids drawing squiggly lines and nonsense. Years pass and soon we're depicting what we want more clearly, fine tuning handwriting, learning all the little tricks like adding color or shadows. It's a long process though and sometimes theory can hold you back because if you're anything like myself you can certainly read and understand a concept much faster than you can execute it. It gets frustrating to not put that picture in your head down, but the point of it all is try and make something from you that you appreciate. Even if it's not your masterpiece you should appreciate it as a stepping stone and enjoy the process. That's why we do it in the first place right? To enjoy creating. Keep in mind that at the end of the day all art is subjective anyway. Some people only do extreme abstract pieces and some like still life. Some people make graffiti, draw comics, paint with their fingers, and all kinds of crazy stuff in between. You'll always be your worst critic, but if you can recognize what art you love and are inspired by you might enjoy the process of learning. Figure out your favorite pieces and artists, study them and try to recreate the work yourself. Practice off of what you admire and your skills towards what you appreciate will improve greatly. The progress might be clearer then because I doubt your true passion is drawing the exercises in drawbox. Keep making and you'll get there. If you enjoy it it'll only go faster. I wish you success going forward! | 1 | 7,763 | 1.375 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihlyxx1 | ihnmsaw | 1,658,773,565 | 1,658,797,825 | 8 | 11 | You won't be any good for a long, long, long time. And if you stick with it and do get good, you may not even recognize it due to how slow it can take. This is true for many things worth doing in life. Put in the grind. Though also enjoy it. Other commenters talked about the 50% rule. You gotta also draw things you want to draw. Break rules. Try new stuff. Try to do it every day if even for 10 minutes. | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | 0 | 24,260 | 1.375 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihnmsaw | ihmfc73 | 1,658,797,825 | 1,658,779,835 | 11 | 8 | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | Drawing is a skill you acquire over a lot of time, through a lot of practice. You probably won’t see any progress this week over next week, maybe even the week after that! At first, you have to be very aware of yourself (like if you are drawing from your wrist of your shoulder), and make conscious efforts while working on DaB. If you know a little bit before going into DaB, it can be a bit harder I think. A lot of time, self taught creates bad habits that can be hard to break (speaking from experience). But when you look back on what you did today in, say, two months? There will be differences. DaB builds up good habits and a sturdy foundation. Those are things that are vital, but not always visible. I recommend keeping close to the 50% rule. You need to keep drawing things you like, even if they don’t turn out well. You don’t have to destroy them or throw them away if you don’t like them. Give yourself a break- look at what is wrong, what is right, laugh at how good or bad it turned out, and move on. TL;DR- It can and will get better, but it’s something that will only happen with time and practice. Don’t beat yourself up so much! | 1 | 17,990 | 1.375 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihnmsaw | ihmnc2j | 1,658,797,825 | 1,658,782,825 | 11 | 6 | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | what about trying to get a tablet like the samung tab s6 lite to draw on. colors? ALL of them. paper? (nearly) ENDLESS tools? as many as you want. | 1 | 15,000 | 1.833333 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihnmsaw | ihng9dw | 1,658,797,825 | 1,658,794,914 | 11 | 4 | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | Gestures are not easy at all. You gotta practice them like warm ups too. Also fuck shading. Don’t worry about it until you get to that point in the course. It will teach you to understand the forms and planes first and that knowledge will skyrocket you shading abilities. | 1 | 2,911 | 2.75 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihnmsaw | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,797,825 | -2 | 11 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | Be brave enough to suck at something on the way to getting there. | 0 | 37,730 | -5.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihlozmc | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,769,793 | -2 | 10 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | Perfectionism might be your biggest enemy at this point. Keep practicing. Even if you think you suck, keep going. | 0 | 9,698 | -5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmf3zf | ihlyxx1 | 1,658,779,748 | 1,658,773,565 | 9 | 8 | I've got a friend that always reminds me of the phrase: "Comparison is the thief of joy." Sounds like you used to have fun until you started to compare your work to other people. Maybe drawabox isn't the system that works for you. If you know comparing your art to others makes you unhappy, make a conscious effort to not even look at others' work. No, not everyone has it in them to be a pro, or to even be considered talented, but I believe everyone has it in them to be self-satisfied in their work that they chose for themselves. That's what you need to put effort into before you ever "see results" in your art. | You won't be any good for a long, long, long time. And if you stick with it and do get good, you may not even recognize it due to how slow it can take. This is true for many things worth doing in life. Put in the grind. Though also enjoy it. Other commenters talked about the 50% rule. You gotta also draw things you want to draw. Break rules. Try new stuff. Try to do it every day if even for 10 minutes. | 1 | 6,183 | 1.125 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmf3zf | ihl00k5 | 1,658,779,748 | 1,658,760,095 | 9 | -2 | I've got a friend that always reminds me of the phrase: "Comparison is the thief of joy." Sounds like you used to have fun until you started to compare your work to other people. Maybe drawabox isn't the system that works for you. If you know comparing your art to others makes you unhappy, make a conscious effort to not even look at others' work. No, not everyone has it in them to be a pro, or to even be considered talented, but I believe everyone has it in them to be self-satisfied in their work that they chose for themselves. That's what you need to put effort into before you ever "see results" in your art. | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | 1 | 19,653 | -4.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmnc2j | ihn57ik | 1,658,782,825 | 1,658,790,062 | 6 | 8 | what about trying to get a tablet like the samung tab s6 lite to draw on. colors? ALL of them. paper? (nearly) ENDLESS tools? as many as you want. | You will get there but it's a process of years. If you think about it we all start as kids drawing squiggly lines and nonsense. Years pass and soon we're depicting what we want more clearly, fine tuning handwriting, learning all the little tricks like adding color or shadows. It's a long process though and sometimes theory can hold you back because if you're anything like myself you can certainly read and understand a concept much faster than you can execute it. It gets frustrating to not put that picture in your head down, but the point of it all is try and make something from you that you appreciate. Even if it's not your masterpiece you should appreciate it as a stepping stone and enjoy the process. That's why we do it in the first place right? To enjoy creating. Keep in mind that at the end of the day all art is subjective anyway. Some people only do extreme abstract pieces and some like still life. Some people make graffiti, draw comics, paint with their fingers, and all kinds of crazy stuff in between. You'll always be your worst critic, but if you can recognize what art you love and are inspired by you might enjoy the process of learning. Figure out your favorite pieces and artists, study them and try to recreate the work yourself. Practice off of what you admire and your skills towards what you appreciate will improve greatly. The progress might be clearer then because I doubt your true passion is drawing the exercises in drawbox. Keep making and you'll get there. If you enjoy it it'll only go faster. I wish you success going forward! | 0 | 7,237 | 1.333333 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihn57ik | ihl00k5 | 1,658,790,062 | 1,658,760,095 | 8 | -2 | You will get there but it's a process of years. If you think about it we all start as kids drawing squiggly lines and nonsense. Years pass and soon we're depicting what we want more clearly, fine tuning handwriting, learning all the little tricks like adding color or shadows. It's a long process though and sometimes theory can hold you back because if you're anything like myself you can certainly read and understand a concept much faster than you can execute it. It gets frustrating to not put that picture in your head down, but the point of it all is try and make something from you that you appreciate. Even if it's not your masterpiece you should appreciate it as a stepping stone and enjoy the process. That's why we do it in the first place right? To enjoy creating. Keep in mind that at the end of the day all art is subjective anyway. Some people only do extreme abstract pieces and some like still life. Some people make graffiti, draw comics, paint with their fingers, and all kinds of crazy stuff in between. You'll always be your worst critic, but if you can recognize what art you love and are inspired by you might enjoy the process of learning. Figure out your favorite pieces and artists, study them and try to recreate the work yourself. Practice off of what you admire and your skills towards what you appreciate will improve greatly. The progress might be clearer then because I doubt your true passion is drawing the exercises in drawbox. Keep making and you'll get there. If you enjoy it it'll only go faster. I wish you success going forward! | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | 1 | 29,967 | -4 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihlyxx1 | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,773,565 | -2 | 8 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | You won't be any good for a long, long, long time. And if you stick with it and do get good, you may not even recognize it due to how slow it can take. This is true for many things worth doing in life. Put in the grind. Though also enjoy it. Other commenters talked about the 50% rule. You gotta also draw things you want to draw. Break rules. Try new stuff. Try to do it every day if even for 10 minutes. | 0 | 13,470 | -4 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihmfc73 | ihl00k5 | 1,658,779,835 | 1,658,760,095 | 8 | -2 | Drawing is a skill you acquire over a lot of time, through a lot of practice. You probably won’t see any progress this week over next week, maybe even the week after that! At first, you have to be very aware of yourself (like if you are drawing from your wrist of your shoulder), and make conscious efforts while working on DaB. If you know a little bit before going into DaB, it can be a bit harder I think. A lot of time, self taught creates bad habits that can be hard to break (speaking from experience). But when you look back on what you did today in, say, two months? There will be differences. DaB builds up good habits and a sturdy foundation. Those are things that are vital, but not always visible. I recommend keeping close to the 50% rule. You need to keep drawing things you like, even if they don’t turn out well. You don’t have to destroy them or throw them away if you don’t like them. Give yourself a break- look at what is wrong, what is right, laugh at how good or bad it turned out, and move on. TL;DR- It can and will get better, but it’s something that will only happen with time and practice. Don’t beat yourself up so much! | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | 1 | 19,740 | -4 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihmnc2j | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,782,825 | -2 | 6 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | what about trying to get a tablet like the samung tab s6 lite to draw on. colors? ALL of them. paper? (nearly) ENDLESS tools? as many as you want. | 0 | 22,730 | -3 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihng9dw | ihl00k5 | 1,658,794,914 | 1,658,760,095 | 4 | -2 | Gestures are not easy at all. You gotta practice them like warm ups too. Also fuck shading. Don’t worry about it until you get to that point in the course. It will teach you to understand the forms and planes first and that knowledge will skyrocket you shading abilities. | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | 1 | 34,819 | -2 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihpc8qo | ihployr | 1,658,836,284 | 1,658,841,226 | 2 | 3 | I'm very similar to you. I've been very bad at drawing throughout my life and I also wanted to learn pixel art because I love it and it seemed simple enough on the surface to study. It took me 2-3+ **years** of being completely lost and frustrated just to *start* to understand what it is I'm even supposed to be doing to improve my art. I think I'm finally on the right way now. Drawing is an extremely, unbelievably difficult subject to learn. It requires tons of theoretical knowledge as well as hands on practical experience, because even if you memorize all those books and video tutorials, your body often still don't know what your mind knows and you need to hammer that knowledge into it. Never feel bad about struggling with art because you're attempting a task that is far from being easy. I find it to be best to forget about motivation, inspiration or even fun as a beginner. Just do it. Make a schedule and stick to it. Draw enough until you don't feel the pain anymore. With time you will find yourself slowly realizing your potential and as you grow more confident you will love the process. | You are not a lost cause. I've ALSO been drawing for about two years and I ALSO got frustrated by gesture drawing not seeming to pay off in any way. I have still gotten a lot of benefit from drawabox. I think the issue with gesture drawing is that it's not really meant to be done in isolation but rather as a counterpoint to more precise, careful approaches. The problem is that as beginners we hear it's a great exercise, (plus it's taught as the first step to drawing figures *and* it's so easy to fit in to your day) so we get stuck focusing on it, expecting to improve while still missing large pieces of the puzzle. | 0 | 4,942 | 1.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihployr | ihp0git | 1,658,841,226 | 1,658,828,009 | 3 | 1 | You are not a lost cause. I've ALSO been drawing for about two years and I ALSO got frustrated by gesture drawing not seeming to pay off in any way. I have still gotten a lot of benefit from drawabox. I think the issue with gesture drawing is that it's not really meant to be done in isolation but rather as a counterpoint to more precise, careful approaches. The problem is that as beginners we hear it's a great exercise, (plus it's taught as the first step to drawing figures *and* it's so easy to fit in to your day) so we get stuck focusing on it, expecting to improve while still missing large pieces of the puzzle. | Please read the war of art by Steven pressfield | 1 | 13,217 | 3 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihployr | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,841,226 | -2 | 3 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | You are not a lost cause. I've ALSO been drawing for about two years and I ALSO got frustrated by gesture drawing not seeming to pay off in any way. I have still gotten a lot of benefit from drawabox. I think the issue with gesture drawing is that it's not really meant to be done in isolation but rather as a counterpoint to more precise, careful approaches. The problem is that as beginners we hear it's a great exercise, (plus it's taught as the first step to drawing figures *and* it's so easy to fit in to your day) so we get stuck focusing on it, expecting to improve while still missing large pieces of the puzzle. | 0 | 81,131 | -1.5 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihp0git | ihpc8qo | 1,658,828,009 | 1,658,836,284 | 1 | 2 | Please read the war of art by Steven pressfield | I'm very similar to you. I've been very bad at drawing throughout my life and I also wanted to learn pixel art because I love it and it seemed simple enough on the surface to study. It took me 2-3+ **years** of being completely lost and frustrated just to *start* to understand what it is I'm even supposed to be doing to improve my art. I think I'm finally on the right way now. Drawing is an extremely, unbelievably difficult subject to learn. It requires tons of theoretical knowledge as well as hands on practical experience, because even if you memorize all those books and video tutorials, your body often still don't know what your mind knows and you need to hammer that knowledge into it. Never feel bad about struggling with art because you're attempting a task that is far from being easy. I find it to be best to forget about motivation, inspiration or even fun as a beginner. Just do it. Make a schedule and stick to it. Draw enough until you don't feel the pain anymore. With time you will find yourself slowly realizing your potential and as you grow more confident you will love the process. | 0 | 8,275 | 2 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihpc8qo | ihl00k5 | 1,658,836,284 | 1,658,760,095 | 2 | -2 | I'm very similar to you. I've been very bad at drawing throughout my life and I also wanted to learn pixel art because I love it and it seemed simple enough on the surface to study. It took me 2-3+ **years** of being completely lost and frustrated just to *start* to understand what it is I'm even supposed to be doing to improve my art. I think I'm finally on the right way now. Drawing is an extremely, unbelievably difficult subject to learn. It requires tons of theoretical knowledge as well as hands on practical experience, because even if you memorize all those books and video tutorials, your body often still don't know what your mind knows and you need to hammer that knowledge into it. Never feel bad about struggling with art because you're attempting a task that is far from being easy. I find it to be best to forget about motivation, inspiration or even fun as a beginner. Just do it. Make a schedule and stick to it. Draw enough until you don't feel the pain anymore. With time you will find yourself slowly realizing your potential and as you grow more confident you will love the process. | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | 1 | 76,189 | -1 | ||
w7mhl9 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Is it worth it to try or am I a lost cause To explain I commited to Drawabox last week but had delay in starting due to hospital stay. I have been drawing on and off for about two years, but never commited to any sort of real practise, ither than regilar gestures. This is because it is extremely difficult to obtain drawing materials where I live and I do not have access to any courses as I do not have money to spare for it. My question arises because I, well. Commiting to drawabox is easy enough I am moving on to Elipses, but it honestly just feels hopeless at points. Even if i I can grind through drawabox, so far even doing warmups before my pixel art practise, even after two years i am positively awful at other fundamentals, EVEN at gesture. I tried some exercises yday and it was so stiff and bad I burned the paper and the exercises. Even paying attention to the other students progress made me furious cause they can add shading and hatching and I simply can not figure it out no matter what. Yes I know the theory, but it does not matter, I still dont and will probably never know to appky it. Even after a few years I am simply stuck in the same place learning wise. It makes me worried and frankly hopeless about my chances. Drawing used to be fun but now that I am not getting returns at all it just devilved into frustrating place for me. Drawabox feels doable but I am scared that doing it will be pointless in the long run since everything else feels out of reach. | ihl00k5 | ihp0git | 1,658,760,095 | 1,658,828,009 | -2 | 1 | https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist this is a bit more of a complete course, accompanied by free resources and links to everything | Please read the war of art by Steven pressfield | 0 | 67,914 | -0.5 | ||
z14fsd | artfundamentals_train | 1 | On not drawing the 50/50 rule with a reference So I started DaB a few weeks ago, I'm honestly a complete beginner and genuinely super bad at drawing. My progression came to a hard halt because of the 50/50 rule and not being allowed to atleast copy references, surely even copying a reference is better than not drawing at all? Yes, I am aware it's my fear of bad execution that is keeping me away, and that is a problem in and of itself, but I feel like even doing something in a way that isn't perfect is better than not doing it at all. Thoughts? Opinions? | ix8vd28 | ix94gay | 1,669,051,190 | 1,669,054,764 | 1 | 13 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I think you answered your own question here. Its fear of execution. The lesson learned by the 50/50 rule has nothing to do with execution; the lesson is teaching yourself to just draw whatever without fear. You have to get over that hump at some point, and right now when you aren't great at drawing is as good a time as any. Its better to delete that block before you invest countless hours in developing your skills. Getting passed your fear of execution is literally the point of the 50/50. Seeing shit drawings and failed scenes worthy of a toddler with a fistful of crayons is inevitable and ok lol. For reference i am at the same point you are. Im *awful* at drawing lol. Im a total beginner. | 0 | 3,574 | 13 | ||
z14fsd | artfundamentals_train | 1 | On not drawing the 50/50 rule with a reference So I started DaB a few weeks ago, I'm honestly a complete beginner and genuinely super bad at drawing. My progression came to a hard halt because of the 50/50 rule and not being allowed to atleast copy references, surely even copying a reference is better than not drawing at all? Yes, I am aware it's my fear of bad execution that is keeping me away, and that is a problem in and of itself, but I feel like even doing something in a way that isn't perfect is better than not doing it at all. Thoughts? Opinions? | ix8vd28 | ixaaqse | 1,669,051,190 | 1,669,071,970 | 1 | 10 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I have to say, I didn’t stick hard to this rule. I do draw without references, but I picked up DaB when I was working on expanding what I could actually do. And I will say, I have a LOT of horrible drawings, especially right now. I’m starting to work on cityscapes, and yikes. Some of them are scary. I watch tutorials and look up tips. I look up references and break down the shapes so I can understand the angles and shapes they used and how they turned out. I don’t think anything like that is bad in terms of references. There’s also an exercise you can if you are having trouble drawing things strictly from your imagination which is expanding you Visual Library. Your Visual Library is basically items that you can confidently draw completely from your imagination. It could be different types of shoes or hats, scarves, furniture, glasses, containers, books-any object really. You start with 2-4 reference images that you try to copy as close as possible. You really want to focus on shape and how everything fits together. Then you draw 1-2 with no references at all. If you are brand new and have trouble going from imagination or memory, I think it’s a good middle ground to moving into using no references. Also to keep in mind- Art has no shortcuts. You only get better by practicing. Some people may have a natural talent so they have start a step or two ahead, but they only reach high levels by continually working at it. Draw daily, try not to look back on what you did yesterday. In a month when you look back on what you did then versus that day, there will be small differences. In a year, it will be so different, you’ll wonder when exactly that happened. I think it’s worth it though. The satisfaction when something finally clicks and you realize you just created something is an amazing feeling! Eventually, you may even learn to laugh at some of your bad drawings. You have to be willing to put in the work though. It’s tough in the beginning, but definitely worth it! | 0 | 20,780 | 10 | ||
z14fsd | artfundamentals_train | 1 | On not drawing the 50/50 rule with a reference So I started DaB a few weeks ago, I'm honestly a complete beginner and genuinely super bad at drawing. My progression came to a hard halt because of the 50/50 rule and not being allowed to atleast copy references, surely even copying a reference is better than not drawing at all? Yes, I am aware it's my fear of bad execution that is keeping me away, and that is a problem in and of itself, but I feel like even doing something in a way that isn't perfect is better than not doing it at all. Thoughts? Opinions? | ix8vd28 | ix9gpef | 1,669,051,190 | 1,669,059,602 | 1 | 7 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I’m over halfway through DAB and didn’t realize that was the rule 🤦♀️ I truly suck at reading instructions, but I’ll blame it on my ADD. Well, if it helps, I’ve been using references and I still feel that I’ve gotten a lot better at drawing! I will stop using the refs now though. | 0 | 8,412 | 7 | ||
z14fsd | artfundamentals_train | 1 | On not drawing the 50/50 rule with a reference So I started DaB a few weeks ago, I'm honestly a complete beginner and genuinely super bad at drawing. My progression came to a hard halt because of the 50/50 rule and not being allowed to atleast copy references, surely even copying a reference is better than not drawing at all? Yes, I am aware it's my fear of bad execution that is keeping me away, and that is a problem in and of itself, but I feel like even doing something in a way that isn't perfect is better than not doing it at all. Thoughts? Opinions? | ixaaqse | ix9gpef | 1,669,071,970 | 1,669,059,602 | 10 | 7 | I have to say, I didn’t stick hard to this rule. I do draw without references, but I picked up DaB when I was working on expanding what I could actually do. And I will say, I have a LOT of horrible drawings, especially right now. I’m starting to work on cityscapes, and yikes. Some of them are scary. I watch tutorials and look up tips. I look up references and break down the shapes so I can understand the angles and shapes they used and how they turned out. I don’t think anything like that is bad in terms of references. There’s also an exercise you can if you are having trouble drawing things strictly from your imagination which is expanding you Visual Library. Your Visual Library is basically items that you can confidently draw completely from your imagination. It could be different types of shoes or hats, scarves, furniture, glasses, containers, books-any object really. You start with 2-4 reference images that you try to copy as close as possible. You really want to focus on shape and how everything fits together. Then you draw 1-2 with no references at all. If you are brand new and have trouble going from imagination or memory, I think it’s a good middle ground to moving into using no references. Also to keep in mind- Art has no shortcuts. You only get better by practicing. Some people may have a natural talent so they have start a step or two ahead, but they only reach high levels by continually working at it. Draw daily, try not to look back on what you did yesterday. In a month when you look back on what you did then versus that day, there will be small differences. In a year, it will be so different, you’ll wonder when exactly that happened. I think it’s worth it though. The satisfaction when something finally clicks and you realize you just created something is an amazing feeling! Eventually, you may even learn to laugh at some of your bad drawings. You have to be willing to put in the work though. It’s tough in the beginning, but definitely worth it! | I’m over halfway through DAB and didn’t realize that was the rule 🤦♀️ I truly suck at reading instructions, but I’ll blame it on my ADD. Well, if it helps, I’ve been using references and I still feel that I’ve gotten a lot better at drawing! I will stop using the refs now though. | 1 | 12,368 | 1.428571 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilh4v3t | ilg09ch | 1,661,272,770 | 1,661,255,567 | 27 | 1 | Personally I read the rule mostly as a way to prevent burnout. That if you practice 1 hour, you make sure to play 1 hour. But if you play 2 hours, I would think 1 hour, or even half an hour practice would still be fine. Depending on what your goals are. As far as I've learned one of the most important parts of efficient practice is consistency. Not necessarily matching practise and fun. Of course the more time you can spend on practice, the better. I think it all depends on what you want to achieve, but if you feel like you need those 2 hours to keep your happiness, then that would be a priority to me. I have no clue if my idea matches the reason for the rule though. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 17,203 | 27 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilg09ch | ilj7c90 | 1,661,255,567 | 1,661,302,408 | 1 | 7 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I understand how important it is to draw and sketch almost daily. As a professional artist I don’t keep track of hours spent. I do enough to notice an improvement from one year to the next. It’s art, and my profession, I just hate the whole time thing. Sometimes when I’m working on a piece I might spend all day with it, but mostly not that much. | 0 | 46,841 | 7 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilhm1eq | ilg09ch | 1,661,279,305 | 1,661,255,567 | 6 | 1 | I remember seeing someone ask this a while ago, Uncomfortable said that drawing for work can also count towards the 50%. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 23,738 | 6 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilgo2dq | ilg09ch | 1,661,266,291 | 1,661,255,567 | 5 | 1 | The 50% rule is simple. All of the time you spend on drawing is to be divided into two equal portions. - One half will include anything and everything you do with the purpose of improving your skills. Coursework, exercises, studies, tutorials, etc. - The other half is reserved only for drawing done for the sake of drawing. In other words, play. Experimentation, just throwing yourself at the page and giving yourself full freedom to just try, even though the result will likely turn out badly. Work doesnt fit either category imo, so you should ignore it. Your work isnt expressly for play or improving skills. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 10,724 | 5 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilg09ch | ilpisb7 | 1,661,255,567 | 1,661,416,260 | 1 | 2 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I think interpreting the 50% rule as "draw outside of drawabox for **at least** as much time as you spend on the videos and exercises" is a good way of looking at it personally. It helps make drawing outside of the course not feel limiting, because you don't really need to keep track of time very much if you're just always drawing for periods of time that are long enough to be equal to or greater than that time spent learning and doing exercises. | 0 | 160,693 | 2 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilgo2dq | ilh4v3t | 1,661,266,291 | 1,661,272,770 | 5 | 27 | The 50% rule is simple. All of the time you spend on drawing is to be divided into two equal portions. - One half will include anything and everything you do with the purpose of improving your skills. Coursework, exercises, studies, tutorials, etc. - The other half is reserved only for drawing done for the sake of drawing. In other words, play. Experimentation, just throwing yourself at the page and giving yourself full freedom to just try, even though the result will likely turn out badly. Work doesnt fit either category imo, so you should ignore it. Your work isnt expressly for play or improving skills. | Personally I read the rule mostly as a way to prevent burnout. That if you practice 1 hour, you make sure to play 1 hour. But if you play 2 hours, I would think 1 hour, or even half an hour practice would still be fine. Depending on what your goals are. As far as I've learned one of the most important parts of efficient practice is consistency. Not necessarily matching practise and fun. Of course the more time you can spend on practice, the better. I think it all depends on what you want to achieve, but if you feel like you need those 2 hours to keep your happiness, then that would be a priority to me. I have no clue if my idea matches the reason for the rule though. | 0 | 6,479 | 5.4 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilhm1eq | ilj7c90 | 1,661,279,305 | 1,661,302,408 | 6 | 7 | I remember seeing someone ask this a while ago, Uncomfortable said that drawing for work can also count towards the 50%. | I understand how important it is to draw and sketch almost daily. As a professional artist I don’t keep track of hours spent. I do enough to notice an improvement from one year to the next. It’s art, and my profession, I just hate the whole time thing. Sometimes when I’m working on a piece I might spend all day with it, but mostly not that much. | 0 | 23,103 | 1.166667 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilgo2dq | ilj7c90 | 1,661,266,291 | 1,661,302,408 | 5 | 7 | The 50% rule is simple. All of the time you spend on drawing is to be divided into two equal portions. - One half will include anything and everything you do with the purpose of improving your skills. Coursework, exercises, studies, tutorials, etc. - The other half is reserved only for drawing done for the sake of drawing. In other words, play. Experimentation, just throwing yourself at the page and giving yourself full freedom to just try, even though the result will likely turn out badly. Work doesnt fit either category imo, so you should ignore it. Your work isnt expressly for play or improving skills. | I understand how important it is to draw and sketch almost daily. As a professional artist I don’t keep track of hours spent. I do enough to notice an improvement from one year to the next. It’s art, and my profession, I just hate the whole time thing. Sometimes when I’m working on a piece I might spend all day with it, but mostly not that much. | 0 | 36,117 | 1.4 | ||
wvmshv | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | How do you deal with the 50% rule and drawing as a profession? I’ll start off by saying that I think it’s a great idea. It’s obviously very important to not just grind all the time and let your creativity flow. But how do you deal with it when drawing is already part of your occupation? I try to sketch for fun nightly (like 2ish hours) but I am also a tattoo artist and spend a decent amount of time drawing designs, mostly for clients but also just for fun. I feel like if I included the time I spend drawing designs into the 50% rule I would have to do so much drawabox to match it that I wouldn’t even have time for my fun nightly sketching. Should I just not take that into consideration when I’m trying to figure out how much time to put into drawabox? Interested to see people from other drawing professions and how they dealt with this. | ilgo2dq | ilhm1eq | 1,661,266,291 | 1,661,279,305 | 5 | 6 | The 50% rule is simple. All of the time you spend on drawing is to be divided into two equal portions. - One half will include anything and everything you do with the purpose of improving your skills. Coursework, exercises, studies, tutorials, etc. - The other half is reserved only for drawing done for the sake of drawing. In other words, play. Experimentation, just throwing yourself at the page and giving yourself full freedom to just try, even though the result will likely turn out badly. Work doesnt fit either category imo, so you should ignore it. Your work isnt expressly for play or improving skills. | I remember seeing someone ask this a while ago, Uncomfortable said that drawing for work can also count towards the 50%. | 0 | 13,014 | 1.2 | ||
x1kddq | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Unsure how to handle the 50% rule Back in college, in like 2017, I took a shot at DrawABox, and ended up falling out of it because of the toolbox fallacy, basically I was convinced I needed some angled surface to draw on, and *that* was the reason my homework wasn't coming out great. The thing that's been scaring me off from coming back is the 50% rule, because I'm afraid that even if I pick the course back up, needing to draw things that'll end up bad will make me fall back out of it. Without wishing to get into a whole mental health situation, I historically handle "failure" very poorly, and the reason that I've been trying to learn to draw since 2015 and have made significantly less progress than one would expect in 7 years is because what keeps happening is that I'll get back into drawing after a hiatus, I'll do a few drawings, then I'll draw something that I really just *hate* and it'll turn me off from drawing for months. I drew this in June 2019 and ended up not putting pencil to paper again until February 2020. I've gotten a bit better about this since then. I've had a daily drawing challenge that I've kept at to prompt 127, but even then it's been a struggle. The only way I'm able to get myself to not get *too* upset at them is because I'm reminding myself that I'm not doing this to make art I like, I'm doing it with the specific purpose of improving (which means it doesn't fall under the 50% rule). And some days even that fails. What I'm getting at is, I don't know how to handle the 50% rule when drawing for the sake of drawing is the major cause of my improvement being so slow. | ime1818 | imel6j3 | 1,661,869,220 | 1,661,877,098 | 1 | 8 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | if you want to improve at art, you NEED to become comfortable with failure. Every great artist got to the way they were before because they failed many times before. Just like how practicing lines will develop your mark making ability, making failures and then correcting on them develops your ability to see what makes a failure a failure and to fix that next time you draw. More importantly though, the 50 percent rule is made to develop your joy for making art. Its supposed to be where you make art you like, even if it doesnt look good. Sometimes we get too caught up in results of practice and when we do become able to draw, we end up drawing art that doesnt interest us and as a result tkae breaks or even quit. The 50 percent rule forces you to develop that sort of passion that caused you to want to draw in the first. Without that passion, youre just practicing a skill youll end up never finding any value out of. That being said, i personally dont even follow the 50 percent rule. I spend most of my time practicing fundamentals rather than draw personal work. Its kinda hypocritical of me, but I draw more to improve than to have fun, kinda like you. Even then, i still have a clear goal in mind and a passion to get there, so i practice so i can reach that goal. On the occasion i do practice art, im comfortable with the idea of failure while also enjoying the process. Some may not agree with spending most of your time on practice, but thats the way that works for me. Basically, use the 50 percent rule to get comfortable with failure and make art something you enjoy. No need to ACTUALLY follow it since no one is actually policing you about it, but its just really recommended to do so. You’ve probably already watched but Uncomfortable already has a really good video videoon the topic that I recommend you watch. Remember, learning art is ultimately a hobby, hobbies are supposed to be enjoyable so you should try to treat it as such. Best of luck to you, hope it helps | 0 | 7,878 | 8 | ||
x1kddq | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Unsure how to handle the 50% rule Back in college, in like 2017, I took a shot at DrawABox, and ended up falling out of it because of the toolbox fallacy, basically I was convinced I needed some angled surface to draw on, and *that* was the reason my homework wasn't coming out great. The thing that's been scaring me off from coming back is the 50% rule, because I'm afraid that even if I pick the course back up, needing to draw things that'll end up bad will make me fall back out of it. Without wishing to get into a whole mental health situation, I historically handle "failure" very poorly, and the reason that I've been trying to learn to draw since 2015 and have made significantly less progress than one would expect in 7 years is because what keeps happening is that I'll get back into drawing after a hiatus, I'll do a few drawings, then I'll draw something that I really just *hate* and it'll turn me off from drawing for months. I drew this in June 2019 and ended up not putting pencil to paper again until February 2020. I've gotten a bit better about this since then. I've had a daily drawing challenge that I've kept at to prompt 127, but even then it's been a struggle. The only way I'm able to get myself to not get *too* upset at them is because I'm reminding myself that I'm not doing this to make art I like, I'm doing it with the specific purpose of improving (which means it doesn't fall under the 50% rule). And some days even that fails. What I'm getting at is, I don't know how to handle the 50% rule when drawing for the sake of drawing is the major cause of my improvement being so slow. | imf4rdb | ime1818 | 1,661,884,630 | 1,661,869,220 | 3 | 1 | I'm almost exactly in the boat you're describing here, and after drawing a page of rough sketches from memory to force myself to meet the 50% rule - feeling nothing but panic, like a hand was crushing my heart the whole time - I'm thinking I'm just going to skip that until I get more confidence in mark making, subbing in different kinds of exercises until I have more confidence in myself. I'm thinking some of the stuff from Drawing on the Right side of the Brain course work. Having the structure of saying "this is something a teacher said to do" seems to make it less difficult to deal with imperfections that my brain wants to view as objective personal failures. Less time spent talking myself out of quitting is more time working on getting better. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 15,410 | 3 | ||
x1kddq | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Unsure how to handle the 50% rule Back in college, in like 2017, I took a shot at DrawABox, and ended up falling out of it because of the toolbox fallacy, basically I was convinced I needed some angled surface to draw on, and *that* was the reason my homework wasn't coming out great. The thing that's been scaring me off from coming back is the 50% rule, because I'm afraid that even if I pick the course back up, needing to draw things that'll end up bad will make me fall back out of it. Without wishing to get into a whole mental health situation, I historically handle "failure" very poorly, and the reason that I've been trying to learn to draw since 2015 and have made significantly less progress than one would expect in 7 years is because what keeps happening is that I'll get back into drawing after a hiatus, I'll do a few drawings, then I'll draw something that I really just *hate* and it'll turn me off from drawing for months. I drew this in June 2019 and ended up not putting pencil to paper again until February 2020. I've gotten a bit better about this since then. I've had a daily drawing challenge that I've kept at to prompt 127, but even then it's been a struggle. The only way I'm able to get myself to not get *too* upset at them is because I'm reminding myself that I'm not doing this to make art I like, I'm doing it with the specific purpose of improving (which means it doesn't fall under the 50% rule). And some days even that fails. What I'm getting at is, I don't know how to handle the 50% rule when drawing for the sake of drawing is the major cause of my improvement being so slow. | ime1818 | imi7av3 | 1,661,869,220 | 1,661,942,762 | 1 | 4 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Okay, two big things really stand out to me about your post. The first is that the 50% rule has a disclaimer that says: >Note: I cannot speak to how directly this applies to those of you who face learning challenges or conditions like ADHD, and I must leave it to you to try to apply this principle as well as you reasonably can. I can however say that we have students with ADHD (one of whom is currently a teaching assistant, as well as a freelance illustrator) who have worked through and benefitted from this course. You can read more about her experiences in this response she's given to another student in our community. If you know you have mental health problems and the 50% rule is going to clash with them, I think doing what works for you is the right call. Maybe you think your problems "don't count" for whatever reason, but they absolutely do, even if they're nothing like ADHD. The second thing that stood out to me is that you don't count your drawing prompts as 50% because you focus on using them to improve. Saying "don't think about improvement" is like saying "don't think about the pink elephant." It's just going to happen, at least to an extent. Treat it as an ideal to aim for while forcing yourself to create original art. Drawing prompts are encouraged and there are several on the drawabox site for this reason. Basically, what I'm saying is congrats on completing 217 days of 50% rule! Now maybe balance that out with some drawabox lessons. | 0 | 73,542 | 4 | ||
x1kddq | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Unsure how to handle the 50% rule Back in college, in like 2017, I took a shot at DrawABox, and ended up falling out of it because of the toolbox fallacy, basically I was convinced I needed some angled surface to draw on, and *that* was the reason my homework wasn't coming out great. The thing that's been scaring me off from coming back is the 50% rule, because I'm afraid that even if I pick the course back up, needing to draw things that'll end up bad will make me fall back out of it. Without wishing to get into a whole mental health situation, I historically handle "failure" very poorly, and the reason that I've been trying to learn to draw since 2015 and have made significantly less progress than one would expect in 7 years is because what keeps happening is that I'll get back into drawing after a hiatus, I'll do a few drawings, then I'll draw something that I really just *hate* and it'll turn me off from drawing for months. I drew this in June 2019 and ended up not putting pencil to paper again until February 2020. I've gotten a bit better about this since then. I've had a daily drawing challenge that I've kept at to prompt 127, but even then it's been a struggle. The only way I'm able to get myself to not get *too* upset at them is because I'm reminding myself that I'm not doing this to make art I like, I'm doing it with the specific purpose of improving (which means it doesn't fall under the 50% rule). And some days even that fails. What I'm getting at is, I don't know how to handle the 50% rule when drawing for the sake of drawing is the major cause of my improvement being so slow. | imfuk4g | ime1818 | 1,661,894,507 | 1,661,869,220 | 3 | 1 | So far for my 50% pieces I've purposefully tried to make bad stuff which... I guess is like drawing for the sake of drawing but I "can't" be worried about failure if I didn't have high expectations to begin with. I will say that alleviating the pressure that way has allowed me to find some of the "failed" pieces kind of cute in a Frankenstein-esque way. Plus, I put so much effort into my homework that it feels good to just scribble without a goal (and then never look at them again. Probably) I know that won't work for everyone, though. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 25,287 | 3 | ||
x1kddq | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Unsure how to handle the 50% rule Back in college, in like 2017, I took a shot at DrawABox, and ended up falling out of it because of the toolbox fallacy, basically I was convinced I needed some angled surface to draw on, and *that* was the reason my homework wasn't coming out great. The thing that's been scaring me off from coming back is the 50% rule, because I'm afraid that even if I pick the course back up, needing to draw things that'll end up bad will make me fall back out of it. Without wishing to get into a whole mental health situation, I historically handle "failure" very poorly, and the reason that I've been trying to learn to draw since 2015 and have made significantly less progress than one would expect in 7 years is because what keeps happening is that I'll get back into drawing after a hiatus, I'll do a few drawings, then I'll draw something that I really just *hate* and it'll turn me off from drawing for months. I drew this in June 2019 and ended up not putting pencil to paper again until February 2020. I've gotten a bit better about this since then. I've had a daily drawing challenge that I've kept at to prompt 127, but even then it's been a struggle. The only way I'm able to get myself to not get *too* upset at them is because I'm reminding myself that I'm not doing this to make art I like, I'm doing it with the specific purpose of improving (which means it doesn't fall under the 50% rule). And some days even that fails. What I'm getting at is, I don't know how to handle the 50% rule when drawing for the sake of drawing is the major cause of my improvement being so slow. | imf4rdb | imi7av3 | 1,661,884,630 | 1,661,942,762 | 3 | 4 | I'm almost exactly in the boat you're describing here, and after drawing a page of rough sketches from memory to force myself to meet the 50% rule - feeling nothing but panic, like a hand was crushing my heart the whole time - I'm thinking I'm just going to skip that until I get more confidence in mark making, subbing in different kinds of exercises until I have more confidence in myself. I'm thinking some of the stuff from Drawing on the Right side of the Brain course work. Having the structure of saying "this is something a teacher said to do" seems to make it less difficult to deal with imperfections that my brain wants to view as objective personal failures. Less time spent talking myself out of quitting is more time working on getting better. | Okay, two big things really stand out to me about your post. The first is that the 50% rule has a disclaimer that says: >Note: I cannot speak to how directly this applies to those of you who face learning challenges or conditions like ADHD, and I must leave it to you to try to apply this principle as well as you reasonably can. I can however say that we have students with ADHD (one of whom is currently a teaching assistant, as well as a freelance illustrator) who have worked through and benefitted from this course. You can read more about her experiences in this response she's given to another student in our community. If you know you have mental health problems and the 50% rule is going to clash with them, I think doing what works for you is the right call. Maybe you think your problems "don't count" for whatever reason, but they absolutely do, even if they're nothing like ADHD. The second thing that stood out to me is that you don't count your drawing prompts as 50% because you focus on using them to improve. Saying "don't think about improvement" is like saying "don't think about the pink elephant." It's just going to happen, at least to an extent. Treat it as an ideal to aim for while forcing yourself to create original art. Drawing prompts are encouraged and there are several on the drawabox site for this reason. Basically, what I'm saying is congrats on completing 217 days of 50% rule! Now maybe balance that out with some drawabox lessons. | 0 | 58,132 | 1.333333 | ||
x1kddq | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Unsure how to handle the 50% rule Back in college, in like 2017, I took a shot at DrawABox, and ended up falling out of it because of the toolbox fallacy, basically I was convinced I needed some angled surface to draw on, and *that* was the reason my homework wasn't coming out great. The thing that's been scaring me off from coming back is the 50% rule, because I'm afraid that even if I pick the course back up, needing to draw things that'll end up bad will make me fall back out of it. Without wishing to get into a whole mental health situation, I historically handle "failure" very poorly, and the reason that I've been trying to learn to draw since 2015 and have made significantly less progress than one would expect in 7 years is because what keeps happening is that I'll get back into drawing after a hiatus, I'll do a few drawings, then I'll draw something that I really just *hate* and it'll turn me off from drawing for months. I drew this in June 2019 and ended up not putting pencil to paper again until February 2020. I've gotten a bit better about this since then. I've had a daily drawing challenge that I've kept at to prompt 127, but even then it's been a struggle. The only way I'm able to get myself to not get *too* upset at them is because I'm reminding myself that I'm not doing this to make art I like, I'm doing it with the specific purpose of improving (which means it doesn't fall under the 50% rule). And some days even that fails. What I'm getting at is, I don't know how to handle the 50% rule when drawing for the sake of drawing is the major cause of my improvement being so slow. | imi7av3 | imfuk4g | 1,661,942,762 | 1,661,894,507 | 4 | 3 | Okay, two big things really stand out to me about your post. The first is that the 50% rule has a disclaimer that says: >Note: I cannot speak to how directly this applies to those of you who face learning challenges or conditions like ADHD, and I must leave it to you to try to apply this principle as well as you reasonably can. I can however say that we have students with ADHD (one of whom is currently a teaching assistant, as well as a freelance illustrator) who have worked through and benefitted from this course. You can read more about her experiences in this response she's given to another student in our community. If you know you have mental health problems and the 50% rule is going to clash with them, I think doing what works for you is the right call. Maybe you think your problems "don't count" for whatever reason, but they absolutely do, even if they're nothing like ADHD. The second thing that stood out to me is that you don't count your drawing prompts as 50% because you focus on using them to improve. Saying "don't think about improvement" is like saying "don't think about the pink elephant." It's just going to happen, at least to an extent. Treat it as an ideal to aim for while forcing yourself to create original art. Drawing prompts are encouraged and there are several on the drawabox site for this reason. Basically, what I'm saying is congrats on completing 217 days of 50% rule! Now maybe balance that out with some drawabox lessons. | So far for my 50% pieces I've purposefully tried to make bad stuff which... I guess is like drawing for the sake of drawing but I "can't" be worried about failure if I didn't have high expectations to begin with. I will say that alleviating the pressure that way has allowed me to find some of the "failed" pieces kind of cute in a Frankenstein-esque way. Plus, I put so much effort into my homework that it feels good to just scribble without a goal (and then never look at them again. Probably) I know that won't work for everyone, though. | 1 | 48,255 | 1.333333 | ||
qg3360 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Is it okay if I do tutorial videos for the 50% rule? Basically the title. Is it okay if I do tutorials like following a tutorial step-by-step for the 50% rule, the "fun" stuff. Would it hurt my progress? | hi3sy33 | hi4p3fr | 1,635,250,597 | 1,635,264,875 | 15 | 24 | Any tutorials, lessons, courses, exercises, etc. fall under the same 50% as your work for drawabox. They don't count towards the time spent drawing for the sake of drawing because their focus is still to learn, to improve, and to create something that might produce and end result. The 50% rule is about exploring and experimenting, just drawing for the hell of it, knowing full well that the things you're trying to draw are likely more advanced than you're capable of right now. It's about doing it for the process, and not focusing on that end result. Tutorials are ultimately things we turn to because we want to produce something nice, or to improve our skills. | I disagree with many people on this subreddit and possibly with the drawabox guidelines themselves. In my opinion, just do whatever you find fun man. I believe the 50% rule is meant to not burn out and keep having fun and keep exploring in your drawing. If those are some tutorials, go with it, if that is animal drawing at the zoo, go for that, if it's drawing from imagination, don't let it hold you back. Don't try to follow the rules too much. Most of the greats got there through passion and enjoying what they're doing, not through discipline alone. | 0 | 14,278 | 1.6 | ||
qg3360 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | Is it okay if I do tutorial videos for the 50% rule? Basically the title. Is it okay if I do tutorials like following a tutorial step-by-step for the 50% rule, the "fun" stuff. Would it hurt my progress? | hi4p3fr | hi472oq | 1,635,264,875 | 1,635,257,502 | 24 | 10 | I disagree with many people on this subreddit and possibly with the drawabox guidelines themselves. In my opinion, just do whatever you find fun man. I believe the 50% rule is meant to not burn out and keep having fun and keep exploring in your drawing. If those are some tutorials, go with it, if that is animal drawing at the zoo, go for that, if it's drawing from imagination, don't let it hold you back. Don't try to follow the rules too much. Most of the greats got there through passion and enjoying what they're doing, not through discipline alone. | Its hard to know what to draw especially as a beginner. What I think would be a good start is to go on to ArtStation.com and check out what people have done there and start saving all the drawings that interests you in a folder, like anything that you find even remotely cool and save it. This way you can browse through these pictures in your folder and youll see what it is you like to draw. From there you can experiment and really start implementing the 50/50 rule. | 1 | 7,373 | 2.4 | ||
xw51jb | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Any other traditional painters in here (oil, acrylic, pastels)? What do you do with your 50% rule? Hi, I’m an oil painter and I’m looking into starting drawabox. I recognise that my drawing skills needs work and this regimented training really appeals to me. My question is, what do I do with the 50% rule? Would oil painting (with a pencil drawing to start with) count? And also, I am not planning to ever paint on draw without reference (I have aphantasia) so should I still be trying to draw from imagination? Really appreciate any advice or just sharing similar experiences. | ir4l7d0 | ir5hx0w | 1,664,959,181 | 1,664,979,326 | 1 | 16 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Never did any semblance of a 50% rule going back to childhood ... rather*,* I did a thorough and prolonged study of fundamentals. For *decades.* Before the Internet this was the standard to gain proficiency. *All* art is fun. Some subject matter I enjoy more than others but if I'm drawing or painting I'm content. I've been painting for 50+ years and rarely paint anything without a reference ... your imagination will lie to you, particularly with aphantasia. You have an extra hurdle but not one that can't be compensated for. We tend to draw something as we *think* it is as opposed to what it actually looks like. I have a fairly vivid visual memory that is directly related to an ability to *see.* The only thing I will draw without a reference is horses, and only because I am so familiar with them. I honestly don't get the fascination of DaB as a learning tool. Repetitive exercises without a foundation of fundamentals isn't effective. So many quit the course or still have to go back to fundamentals; there is no substitute and no shortcuts. | 0 | 20,145 | 16 | ||
xw51jb | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Any other traditional painters in here (oil, acrylic, pastels)? What do you do with your 50% rule? Hi, I’m an oil painter and I’m looking into starting drawabox. I recognise that my drawing skills needs work and this regimented training really appeals to me. My question is, what do I do with the 50% rule? Would oil painting (with a pencil drawing to start with) count? And also, I am not planning to ever paint on draw without reference (I have aphantasia) so should I still be trying to draw from imagination? Really appreciate any advice or just sharing similar experiences. | ir4l7d0 | ir57sch | 1,664,959,181 | 1,664,974,739 | 1 | 14 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Oil painting certainly counts, as would any act of representational picture making that has you making strokes and marks. Also, to the point about planning to always work with reference - while that's not an issue, you're mistaken in thinking that aphantasia will bar you from working without reference. I have it myself, and while reference has been very helpful, restructuring the manner in which I understand and process those references, and how it gets committed to memory when doing studies from reference does improve my ability to draw without them. Not saying you should actively seek to work without references (although that recommendation that students may want to spend their first couple weeks on the 50% rule without reference may be something you'd benefit from here), just that you're setting up the expectations and limitations based on presumption rather than allowing your skills to develop however they will. Do not get ahead of yourself in deciding what you will and won't be capable of. | 0 | 15,558 | 14 | ||
xw51jb | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Any other traditional painters in here (oil, acrylic, pastels)? What do you do with your 50% rule? Hi, I’m an oil painter and I’m looking into starting drawabox. I recognise that my drawing skills needs work and this regimented training really appeals to me. My question is, what do I do with the 50% rule? Would oil painting (with a pencil drawing to start with) count? And also, I am not planning to ever paint on draw without reference (I have aphantasia) so should I still be trying to draw from imagination? Really appreciate any advice or just sharing similar experiences. | ir7toeb | ir4l7d0 | 1,665,012,789 | 1,664,959,181 | 9 | 1 | Art Teacher here- I am having students do draw a box for sketchbook and we are working through the elements of art and principles of design. Two weeks per theme: line, shape, form, value, color, texture, space. Etc. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 53,608 | 9 | ||
xw51jb | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Any other traditional painters in here (oil, acrylic, pastels)? What do you do with your 50% rule? Hi, I’m an oil painter and I’m looking into starting drawabox. I recognise that my drawing skills needs work and this regimented training really appeals to me. My question is, what do I do with the 50% rule? Would oil painting (with a pencil drawing to start with) count? And also, I am not planning to ever paint on draw without reference (I have aphantasia) so should I still be trying to draw from imagination? Really appreciate any advice or just sharing similar experiences. | ir6qgxo | ir4l7d0 | 1,664,996,758 | 1,664,959,181 | 5 | 1 | Whats 50% rule?? | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 37,577 | 5 | ||
xw51jb | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Any other traditional painters in here (oil, acrylic, pastels)? What do you do with your 50% rule? Hi, I’m an oil painter and I’m looking into starting drawabox. I recognise that my drawing skills needs work and this regimented training really appeals to me. My question is, what do I do with the 50% rule? Would oil painting (with a pencil drawing to start with) count? And also, I am not planning to ever paint on draw without reference (I have aphantasia) so should I still be trying to draw from imagination? Really appreciate any advice or just sharing similar experiences. | ir57sch | ir5hx0w | 1,664,974,739 | 1,664,979,326 | 14 | 16 | Oil painting certainly counts, as would any act of representational picture making that has you making strokes and marks. Also, to the point about planning to always work with reference - while that's not an issue, you're mistaken in thinking that aphantasia will bar you from working without reference. I have it myself, and while reference has been very helpful, restructuring the manner in which I understand and process those references, and how it gets committed to memory when doing studies from reference does improve my ability to draw without them. Not saying you should actively seek to work without references (although that recommendation that students may want to spend their first couple weeks on the 50% rule without reference may be something you'd benefit from here), just that you're setting up the expectations and limitations based on presumption rather than allowing your skills to develop however they will. Do not get ahead of yourself in deciding what you will and won't be capable of. | Never did any semblance of a 50% rule going back to childhood ... rather*,* I did a thorough and prolonged study of fundamentals. For *decades.* Before the Internet this was the standard to gain proficiency. *All* art is fun. Some subject matter I enjoy more than others but if I'm drawing or painting I'm content. I've been painting for 50+ years and rarely paint anything without a reference ... your imagination will lie to you, particularly with aphantasia. You have an extra hurdle but not one that can't be compensated for. We tend to draw something as we *think* it is as opposed to what it actually looks like. I have a fairly vivid visual memory that is directly related to an ability to *see.* The only thing I will draw without a reference is horses, and only because I am so familiar with them. I honestly don't get the fascination of DaB as a learning tool. Repetitive exercises without a foundation of fundamentals isn't effective. So many quit the course or still have to go back to fundamentals; there is no substitute and no shortcuts. | 0 | 4,587 | 1.142857 | ||
xw51jb | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Any other traditional painters in here (oil, acrylic, pastels)? What do you do with your 50% rule? Hi, I’m an oil painter and I’m looking into starting drawabox. I recognise that my drawing skills needs work and this regimented training really appeals to me. My question is, what do I do with the 50% rule? Would oil painting (with a pencil drawing to start with) count? And also, I am not planning to ever paint on draw without reference (I have aphantasia) so should I still be trying to draw from imagination? Really appreciate any advice or just sharing similar experiences. | ir6qgxo | ir7toeb | 1,664,996,758 | 1,665,012,789 | 5 | 9 | Whats 50% rule?? | Art Teacher here- I am having students do draw a box for sketchbook and we are working through the elements of art and principles of design. Two weeks per theme: line, shape, form, value, color, texture, space. Etc. | 0 | 16,031 | 1.8 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io5dbjs | io6k43i | 1,663,004,456 | 1,663,021,907 | 1 | 23 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I feel like Draw a Box is not something aimed at beginners(maybe that's just me), and that might be the issue. It might make sense to start with the fundamentals sure, but there are different ways to go about it for different people. I experienced this with both art and music. I didn't want to drill scales, I wanted to play and get feedback on specific pieces. I wanted to enjoy it and improve. (Lol I can only really think of Dolores Umbridge atm and I think what she said, that we all hated, applies here. "Progress for the sake of progress must be discouraged.") When it came to art, I didn't care for warm ups, history, or composition to start. It was something that came with the passion I found for it. If your brain works anything like mine, you might benefit from keeping a separate journal to draw "that thing" you want to be good at. For me it was eyes, and for my friend it was forests. Draw it, and then critique. Write down everything you would change about it, and then start all over and actually do it. As an exercise, maybe on a schedule, and definitely not every time you draw. Other times just do that. Draw. Paint. Whatever you enjoy. When you get to a point where you are enjoying yourself, think about trying this again. Don't let yourself get burnt out over it though! | 0 | 17,451 | 23 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io5dbjs | io83lbe | 1,663,004,456 | 1,663,048,923 | 1 | 14 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I would advise to not work through drawabox like that. Work on some lessons then take what you've learned and make something fun. The website's instructions in the beginning might even say something like that if I'm not mistken. | 0 | 44,467 | 14 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io5lkwu | io5dbjs | 1,663,007,711 | 1,663,004,456 | 9 | 1 | What I’m doing is doing the lessons as a new way to doodle. Bored at my desk? I’m drawing circles, boxes, squares, just shapes. Eventually when you get bored you get curious and look more into the other lessons. I do draw a box as like a textbook to doing the main things I want to learn (like tutorials). It’s fun to learn to draw but when you don’t know what to draw, drawing something is more fun than not drawing at all. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 3,255 | 9 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io5dbjs | io8rtrh | 1,663,004,456 | 1,663,068,160 | 1 | 10 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | it also fits better some people then others, DAB its a more technical and structured approach, and that works well for me, but I can see how that might feel boring to someone else at the same time, 90% of the other courses always start it "just do gesture, flow!!" and I'm like: *"what the F is gesture? those words means nothing I need more technical details"* | 0 | 63,704 | 10 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io5dbjs | io6i75m | 1,663,004,456 | 1,663,021,094 | 1 | 9 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | The course has acknowledged how over the years it has learned from its pilot students on how the structured repetition can kill the drive for learning to draw. I believe it advised people to make use of half of their learning time for his course, and the other half creatively learning to draw or just draw for fun. This course is to give you technical drawing skills which will make you an efficient drawer (less strokes to draw a form) as well as provide some structure for people looking for instructions. But spend time learning or exploring other aspects of drawing! | 0 | 16,638 | 9 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io63mow | io5dbjs | 1,663,015,108 | 1,663,004,456 | 8 | 1 | Totally understandable! DrawABox is a course for learning construction-based drawing, and ingraining line drawing skills into muscle memory. Plenty of people find this process monotonous and dry due to the structured repetition and the technical approach to each subject. Try taking a long break from drawing with any kind of pressure. Just draw the things you used to enjoy. Go on Pinterest and find reference pictures that inspire you, or copy the styles of your favorite shows or Instagram artists. There's a world of creativity online, and you can play with it however you want -- short of straight up ripping off other people's stuff, lol. If you decide to return to DrawABox exercises at some point in the future, draw plenty of the things you enjoy in between them! And try to use some of the skills you're practicing to make things you like. You can do a lot with straight lines, basic forms, contour lines, and texture gradients. There's no rule that says you have to work work work without staying in touch with the fun side of drawing. In fact, you should put fun first. The whole point of improving your skills is to become a more capable artist, with better tools for expressing what YOU want to create. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 10,652 | 8 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io6tlvx | io5dbjs | 1,663,026,129 | 1,663,004,456 | 7 | 1 | I kind of stop DrawABox but that's because I took a CGMA course that it was based off of Honestly I think he mentions to somewhere on his website to also draw for yourself as well So basically i just grind the basics and on the side do other things... It's on ongoing process.. then when I get "comfortable" then I start to learn more things I want to do.. currently doing Proko figure drawing To me .. it's like.. I suck so I can't have fun.. I want to be at a level where I'm okay enough to know why I suck and I can work on that aspect more...and that's the fun for me..and then also draw other things I really don't criticize as much.. for fun you know? | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 21,673 | 7 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io5dbjs | io859le | 1,663,004,456 | 1,663,050,158 | 1 | 8 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Have you followed 50/50 rule? | 0 | 45,702 | 8 | ||
xcj50z | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | I quit drawing shortly after starting Draw A Box and I'm wondering what to do next. I got really inspired one day following along with a Bob Ross episode with my iPad and the end result was basically "Wow I really drew that?". Both my sisters are really good artists and I've always been jealous of that so I wanted to really put the effort it and work at it. I followed a bunch of YouTube guides for different art styles and was having a lot of fun with it until I found Draw A Box. And this seemed like what I had to do. So really excited, I got all the supplies and started right away. I don't remember how far I got but I hit this point where I didn't want to draw at all. Not for fun and not for learning. I felt like if I try and draw something, and I haven't finished this course, it's pointless because it's wasted effort. But in contrast, the monotony of the course took the fun / inspiration I had before starting and every time I put pen to paper, it felt like a job. So I stopped drawing and now when I think about it, I can't find the fun in it anymore. I'm not trying to disrespect the course or anything like that. I'm just wondering if anyone else hit this same wall and what they did about it. I really want to like drawing again and get back to learning, but every time I think about it my brain says "Nah I'd rather do something fun instead". When before I was so inspired. Thanks for any input, it's very much appreciated. (I'm also not implying that becoming "good" at drawing isn't hard. Obviously it's an extremely difficult skill, this is more about losing my inspiration to try at all.) | io5dbjs | io6jz2j | 1,663,004,456 | 1,663,021,847 | 1 | 8 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I think you've hit a very common roadblock. While things like drawabox are good they can be hard if that's all you're doing. I'm currently taking a mentorship student through something like this: https://www.cgmasteracademy.com/courses/66-dynamic-sketching-1/ I think something along these lines is fun because you're drawing alot of different stuff while also studying alot of the basics and understanding form and different subject matters. It's kind of like applied Drawabox. Best of luck! | 0 | 17,391 | 8 |
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